Is this a real Rolex? Never seen one like this before.

[mistermann]

Also value if known would be nice. It's being sold locally.

[Ghould]

Looks like a 9083 "UFO" with refinished dial. Value of these can fluctuate a lot, hardest part will be finding the right buyer.

[mistermann]

They are asking $1500

[datejust24]

Looks legit to me, however, I don't know what reference....take off the bracelet and look between the lugs and you'll get your answer....Unfortunately you'll not get a valuation on that piece due to the forum rules. If it's less than $1k I'd probably go for it...just bought this manual window Rolex Oyster Royal Precision for under $1k and I think I did pretty damn good..image.jpg

[datejust24]

That should say *wind NOT *WINDOW*....AND if they're asking $1,500 I would most certainly pass..good luck

[77T]

It "looks" like the UFO, but some things are off. Genuine versions in much better shape change hands closer to 10,000 than 1,000. But this isn't in that class - dial and caseback missing some details.

You also won't find any serial numbers on the midcase because UFOs don't have the space there. The rivet bracelet is integrated with the case so you can't take it off and look between the lugs because there are no lugs.

[datejust24]

Thank you Paul...I did not know that. Also, this is the first i'm hearing of a UFO....What exactly is a UFO Rolex?

[Craft&Tailored]

“Precision” ref. #9083

[mistermann]

If you look closely you can see the crown on the caseback. Also could the Swiss on the dial maybe be there just hidden due to the angle of the photo?

[crowncollection]

Legit case and band. Not sure the dial is original though


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[77T]

Originally Posted by datejust24

Thank you Paul...I did not know that. Also, this is the first i'm hearing of a UFO....What exactly is a UFO Rolex?

Recently a mention of it in a Hodinkee column shows a good example in gold >>> https://www.hodinkee.com/articles/br...ptember-9-2016

Now what is it? As others said it is ref. 9083 - and some clues for the OP to determine authenticity are mentioned in the article if the caseback can be removed for inspection. Rolex played with the idea of a thin case along with the Cellini line until realizing their mass market future was in Oyster cased models.

If I was creating "fake news", I'd use this old photo of a Wilsdorf family rep inspecting the full size model before penning the final design

[77T]

Originally Posted by crowncollection

Legit case and band. Not sure the dial is original though


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Yes, I couldn't see the coronet on the caseback in the pic but OP says it is there. The dial is puzzling as to why it would have been refinished that way. But these were subcontracted so possible there were variants not commonly seen.

[locutus49]

I'm not a vintage guy, but I think this one looks truly cool.

[motoikkyu]

I know nothing about UFOs other than the stuff I read on the web after my own abduction. I do want to complement datejust24 on that terrific 6427: very cute and an excellent price. I've watched those go up recently (disturbingly).

[Paul]

Originally Posted by datejust24

That should say *wind NOT *WINDOW*....AND if they're asking $1,500 I would most certainly pass..good luck

Sadly, it's getting difficult nowadays to find any complete up-and-running vintage Rolex with a rivet bracelet priced at less than $1500. If someone fancies it as a wearer / keeper / collection piece, I say $1500 is probably not far off correct.

But dare I say it, I've always thought the Rolex 9083 watches to be the fakest looking 'real' vintage Rolex out there. They remind me of the early generation tourist fakees I was seeing in Bali and Bangkok twenty years ago, just odd .... and that's not a desirable odd. In recent times, a fella from down here (New Zealand) was marketing a wonderfully preserved 9083 priced at a hefty US $4k. He ran his FS post for perhaps two years, certainly no takers at that price, just a lot of chatter about how ridiculous his price was.

On the watch we see today, the (probably) refinished dial, and the engraved clasp will keep value down on a watch that is already a hard sell. At $1000 it might be a nice curio for a collection .... but you might be stuck with it forever.

[htbilgic]

Originally Posted by 77T

If I was creating "fake news", I'd use this old photo of a Wilsdorf family rep inspecting the full size model before penning the final design

[datejust24]

Very interesting gentlemen, thank you....and Paul, I'm glad they went with the smaller version UFO....That one made me laugh

[The Wesminator]

Originally Posted by datejust24

Looks legit to me, however, I don't know what reference....take off the bracelet and look between the lugs and you'll get your answer....Unfortunately you'll not get a valuation on that piece due to the forum rules. If it's less than $1k I'd probably go for it...just bought this manual window Rolex Oyster Royal Precision for under $1k and I think I did pretty damn good..Attachment 806077

Thats lovely, 6424???

[datejust24]

Originally Posted by The Wesminator

Thats lovely, 6424???

Yessir

[HogwldFLTR]

Originally Posted by datejust24

Looks legit to me, however, I don't know what reference....take off the bracelet and look between the lugs and you'll get your answer....Unfortunately you'll not get a valuation on that piece due to the forum rules. If it's less than $1k I'd probably go for it...just bought this manual window Rolex Oyster Royal Precision for under $1k and I think I did pretty damn good..Attachment 806077

You did damn good in deed!!! Congratulations!!!

[The Wesminator]

Originally Posted by datejust24

Yessir

Fantastic. Mine had the most gorgeous linen like dial

Enjoy