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Old 8 August 2020, 09:51 AM   #1
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GQ article on Tiffany / Patek

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https://www.gq.com/story/patek-phili...ial-kelly-yoch


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Old 8 August 2020, 09:59 AM   #2
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What must I do for Kelly if I want that 5740 Tiffany? Serious question.
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Old 8 August 2020, 10:33 AM   #3
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What must I do for Kelly if I want that 5740 Tiffany? Serious question.
I imagine her office has shelves stacked with jars containing the souls of all her clients.
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Old 8 August 2020, 11:05 AM   #4
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muhhahahahahha nice one !!!
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Old 8 August 2020, 11:12 AM   #5
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#MeToo



I kid I kid! So much innuendo in so little words :)
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Old 8 August 2020, 12:59 PM   #6
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What must I do for Kelly if I want that 5740 Tiffany? Serious question.
Be a Oscar winning movie producer as per the GQ article
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Old 8 August 2020, 04:32 PM   #7
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Great article! Thanks for sharing

It's hard enough getting one of the desired PP at retail...can't imagine trying to get a Tiffany one to boot.
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Old 8 August 2020, 05:21 PM   #8
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Where can I hand her mine?
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Old 9 August 2020, 09:07 AM   #9
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She’s not as bad as they make her out to be...


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Old 9 August 2020, 12:53 PM   #10
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Old 9 August 2020, 12:54 PM   #11
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Old 9 August 2020, 01:11 PM   #12
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let's hope LVMH dissolve that unhealthy partnership, it's quite sad to see grown ass successful men getting abused by someone who is the living embodiment of arrogant sales associates squeezing the little bit of power their job has given them. what has she actually done to deserve to be in such a position, it's not like she built the Tiffanny-Patek relationship from the ground, absolutely pathetic.
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Old 9 August 2020, 01:56 PM   #13
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Pateks co-signed by Tiffany&Co were not in demand 10 years ago. It is all due to social medical hype and Patekaholic promotes Tiffany/Kelly a lot

Pateks co-signed by Beyer is rarer than Tiffany&Co
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Old 9 August 2020, 02:13 PM   #14
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Pateks co-signed by Tiffany&Co were not in demand 10 years ago. It is all due to social medical hype and Patekaholic promotes Tiffany/Kelly a lot

Pateks co-signed by Beyer is rarer than Tiffany&Co
Ok I'm bought. How do I get that Beyer 5740?
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Old 9 August 2020, 02:21 PM   #15
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Ok I'm bought. How do I get that Beyer 5740?
I have not seen a Beyer co signed 5740 or a Tiffany co signed 5740. I am not sure whether they do co branding on 5740

If you are interested ACM has a Beyer co signed 3700
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Old 9 August 2020, 03:28 PM   #16
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I have not seen a Beyer co signed 5740 or a Tiffany co signed 5740. I am not sure whether they do co branding on 5740

If you are interested ACM has a Beyer co signed 3700
Read the article and you will see this:

Tiffany stamped 5740
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Old 9 August 2020, 03:35 PM   #17
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Ok I'm bought. How do I get that Beyer 5740?
Get yourself a 5740, remove the crystal, and stamp Beyer on the dial all by yourself.

Seriously, and I may be wrong but I cannot remember seeing any Beyer co-signed modern Pateks apart from the few 5170Js for their 250-year anniversary. Didn't they stop co-signng the way Tiffany does it some 2 or 3 decades years ago?

Either way and despite the rarity co-signing on the dial is not for me at all.
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Old 9 August 2020, 04:59 PM   #18
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Ok, I want to be Kelly! Or, at least, be in that world.... OK OK is that is not possible, add me to that chat group please !?!

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Old 9 August 2020, 11:25 PM   #19
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GQ article on Tiffany / Patek

Lots of masochists in the NYC money crowd. Don’t know Kelly and not saying anything negative about her just funny how she has all these grown men jumping through hoops like poodles at westminister.

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Old 9 August 2020, 11:50 PM   #20
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Lots of masochists in the NYC money crowd. Don’t know Kelly and not saying anything negative about her just funny how she has all these grown men jumping through hoops like poodles at westminister.

It leave bad taste in my mouth too.
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Read the article and you will see this:

Tiffany stamped 5740
That's approximately 550k on the wrist.
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Old 10 August 2020, 12:06 AM   #22
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Old 10 August 2020, 12:31 AM   #23
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Lots of masochists in the NYC money crowd. Don’t know Kelly and not saying anything negative about her just funny how she has all these grown men jumping through hoops like poodles at westminister.


Funny, I got a totally different vibe from the article. I imagine a community, brought together by Kelly, where like minded people get together and get to know each other.
I see BBQ's at beach houses, private parties in NYC penthouses, weekends on a sailboat and long term friendships being forged. Once a month coming together in a venue to have a gathering and talking about the hobby, showcasing watches and jewellery.

In the group she build she can identify the enthusiasts, the flippers and the posers. Allocation of watches is a nice perk.
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Read the article and you will see this:

Tiffany stamped 5740
Not sure about this, the dial is already so cramped, this could easily have been a 42mm, think the stamp looks best on the plainer dials.
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Old 10 August 2020, 02:00 AM   #25
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I am sorry, but as a European I still don't get what the fuss with T stamps is all about. Why would men want to clutter their nice clean Nautilus dial with a stamp from an up-market jewellery chain that predominantly sell jewellery for women. I get that T stamps in one sense make the watch rarer, but the extreme price premium for T stamped Pateks still seems quite strange to me.
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Funny, I got a totally different vibe from the article. I imagine a community, brought together by Kelly, where like minded people get together and get to know each other.
I see BBQ's at beach houses, private parties in NYC penthouses, weekends on a sailboat and long term friendships being forged. Once a month coming together in a venue to have a gathering and talking about the hobby, showcasing watches and jewellery.

In the group she build she can identify the enthusiasts, the flippers and the posers. Allocation of watches is a nice perk.
The masochist finds enjoyment in what others deem painful or tiresome

I have no doubt there is some of what you describe as well but unless you’re a close friend, 7 figure annual spender or famous best believe you are that poodle.
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I am sorry, but as a European I still don't get what the fuss with T stamps is all about. Why would men want to clutter their nice clean Nautilus dial with a stamp from an up-market jewellery chain that predominantly sell jewellery for women. I get that T stamps in one sense make the watch rarer, but the extreme price premium for T stamped Pateks still seems quite strange to me.
Because they want immediate 4-5x ROI the moment they pick the watch. Wasn’t Tiffany in trouble after they allegedly sold PP hot piece to first time client in NY store and the guy flipped the watch a week later?
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Old 10 August 2020, 09:05 PM   #28
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I wonder what sort of controls Tiffany's and PP use to guard against corruption? The ability to essentially gift someone the premium over retail price that these watches command seems ripe for corruption.

This same problem applies for all AD's but is even more magnified for the Tiffany stamped PP's.

There's a reckoning coming, its only a matter of time. I suspect the behind-the-scenes "gifts" that grey-market flippers likely give to the AD's that supply them with their stock, are not reported to the tax authorities. It would not surprise me to find that Kelly's home and lifestyle are more lavish than her tax reported salary would support.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to single her out, but this current trend of such an enormous delta between retail price and grey market price is bound to lead to corruption.
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I am sorry, but as a European I still don't get what the fuss with T stamps is all about. Why would men want to clutter their nice clean Nautilus dial with a stamp from an up-market jewellery chain that predominantly sell jewellery for women. I get that T stamps in one sense make the watch rarer, but the extreme price premium for T stamped Pateks still seems quite strange to me.
Double signed watches always command premium , i don t care with T either but still that s the fact among collectors . My personal favs are Cartier signed
https://www.hodinkee.com/articles/qu...ke-anwser-this
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Double signed watches always command premium , i don t care with T either but still that s the fact among collectors . My personal favs are Cartier signed
https://www.hodinkee.com/articles/qu...ke-anwser-this
It’s funny how perceptions change. My grandfather used to buy exclusively from Beyer in Zurich. They knew him by name as he was a good and regular customer. He would never, ever, have considered double stamping as it would serve, in effect, to advertise a mere distribution channel and elevate it to the same level as the manufacturer.

I tend to subscribe to this view, as old fashioned and out of sync with the times as I may be.
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