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Old 7 December 2009, 09:53 AM   #181
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Guys, here is my views after I have study the watch a little closer.

I will say that dial is ok, not a piepan just a regular 180XX dial. The serial will match that watch too.

There was different fonts and different things at those dials at that time just like it is today, so you can't just
concentrating too much at tiny details.

Then the OP is another story, I suppose he was just trying to have a funny Sunday.

Closed case, at least for me.

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Old 7 December 2009, 10:01 AM   #182
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Old 7 December 2009, 10:23 AM   #183
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I think I'll do the same!!!
There will be no Rolex there, because i already got it ha ha!
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Old 7 December 2009, 10:26 AM   #184
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I have to ask you this. WHY? what aspects? considering its an 80's model...they are a bit more crude than current models...also the dial...not as clean as the newer dials...you OWN ONE SUB....how many 80's day-dates have you handled??? how many vintage serial numbers have you seen? also...most of the fakes...will have FLAT dials..there will be no beveled edge to the date or day window...his watch has theses features...another. the date font looks correct. as well as the magnification..the open 6 is correct. now...counterfeits then were not as good as they are NOW. and i must say....if you will have it...that most counterfeiters today are focused on CURRENT models and they are mass produced...so there is NO WAY you can say just by the photos...my tudor sub is a 1965...the serial no' and model number are not exactly centered...you gonna tell me mine is fake after it just got back from service??? and my uncles day-date..which is REAL...also an 80's model...when we took off the bracelet to clean it as I showed him how to really clean it well...there was build-up between where the lugs and bracelet met...looked like a bluish grey color..but washed away with the warm water.....i gotta be honest with you man...you are a new here...and you cant go and ask that someone introduce themselves immediately to a public forum..the question was valid..the photos were decent...and the OP should have been treated with a better response. this is a GOOD place...quit trying to be witty and if you have nothing to offer or any experience with the model..move along!!!!!!!!!!! and say nothing at all.

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Old 7 December 2009, 10:53 AM   #185
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I pulled it out and dusted it off. Other then a good drink! what do you experts consider it to be worth???? I have no idea how old this is???
look on the box, says "Extra OLD".
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Old 7 December 2009, 12:44 PM   #186
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Fake or not, this guy was phishing. Scam artist would be my guess. This is not a court system. In the watch world, you are guilty until proven innocent. Kyle's super-sleuthing called him out on his scam. Notice that he posts no more after he was outed??
JMHO.
That's what it looks like.
Just wanted to see if he can pass it off as real to some potential victims, maybe?
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Old 7 December 2009, 01:48 PM   #187
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Seems you have found more than one rolex in your vault...

http://www.watchtalkforums.info/foru...ad.php?t=19110


Nice find. Too bad there are too many of these types around.
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Old 7 December 2009, 01:53 PM   #188
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Is that a real SD. The capital letters look a too big and the depth of the engraving seems to vary. Is that a bit of corrosion I see on the inside of the lugs. 904L shouldn't do that. Two of the letter 'S' don't even look the same.

Course, it could just be the camera angle or the lighting.
I bought my SD in August 2007 at Rolex AD Berna, Andorra.

Here is the full set of pics (Russian forum)
http://forum.watch.ru/showthread.php?t=4406
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Old 7 December 2009, 02:00 PM   #189
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Hey where'd the OP run off to? Guess we scared him away...
perhaps he will find another fake in his dad's vault.. give him 6 months.. what a loser.. can't even be straight up..

on the other hand,

great job, kyle, on the background check..
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Old 7 December 2009, 02:09 PM   #190
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Is that a real SD. The capital letters look a too big and the depth of the engraving seems to vary. Is that a bit of corrosion I see on the inside of the lugs. 904L shouldn't do that. Two of the letter 'S' don't even look the same.

Course, it could just be the camera angle or the lighting.
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I bought my SD in August 2007 at Rolex AD Berna, Andorra.

Here is the full set of pics (Russian forum)
http://forum.watch.ru/showthread.php?t=4406
Maybe Blendhpi's post works for this one as well:

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Old 7 December 2009, 06:31 PM   #191
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hey nico, so were you able to bring it to an AD? Maybe Washington can help. If not, simply go to the RSC behind greenbelt
goodluck buddy!
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Old 7 December 2009, 06:36 PM   #192
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look on the box, says "Extra OLD".
Or V.S.O.P.
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Old 7 December 2009, 06:43 PM   #193
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Look at the sentence structure (or lack there of), multiple periods after his word fragments, lack of capitalization, and the signature "ha ha ha" on his posts. Sounds like someone who is very popular on this board.
Easy enough for Scott the website manager to tell you if those two"members" acces via the same IP .
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Old 7 December 2009, 07:10 PM   #194
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I bought my SD in August 2007 at Rolex AD Berna, Andorra.

Here is the full set of pics (Russian forum)
http://forum.watch.ru/showthread.php?t=4406
I had a look at your link Oleg.

Very nice macro pix. I also have a 'Z' SD. JJ authenticated.

I apologise if you (and John) thought I was being sarcastic, my post was TIC just to indicate that a few pix are sometimes not enough to confirm authenticity. If you had not bought your SD from an AD I'm sure you would also have checked the movement which is IMO all we really needed to tell the OP in the absence of concensus.
Leo was spot on with the narrow day script width but in those days who knows where the day wheels were being printed and what level Rolex QC was at. Has the OP gone for good or gone to have the back off? Time will tell.
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Old 7 December 2009, 08:04 PM   #195
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Leo was spot on with the narrow day script width but in those days who knows where the day wheels were being printed and what level Rolex QC was at. Has the OP gone for good or gone to have the back off? Time will tell.
For sure, the doubt will subsist till the case opening, I wrote to a private message to the OP telling him to not take so rude all the jokes, but his was gone.
Thanks for your post
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Old 7 December 2009, 10:12 PM   #196
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mis spelling on the dial would have saved me 30 mins of my life from bloody reading!!!

The "8" was way off being an original it was looped back in to its self like a race track rather than an original Rolex scripture with it being 2 small loops adjoining to eachother.
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Old 7 December 2009, 11:29 PM   #197
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i came back from the AD. they siad they need to look up into it and asked me to leave the watch to them. they also let me signed a waiver that if ever the rolex is indeed fake, they will take possession of the watch. im sorry, but i am sincere with the thread.. no spoofing out.. as for the old post, indeed it was a fake watch.. i think dad has a thing for these kind of watches.

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Old 7 December 2009, 11:40 PM   #198
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Just gone through this entire crazy thread on a warm and dark Monday morning - still laughing my ass off!!!

777, some of your comments are hilarious!! My Monday morning blues have disappeared!!
I found it on a Monday night JJ 777 gets my stamp of approval on the witty remarks

I need another coffee and a strong one at that
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Old 10 December 2009, 01:40 AM   #199
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Its amazing what you can forget in an old safe. Or new one for that matter.
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Old 10 December 2009, 01:55 AM   #200
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Found Rolex in Safe

My 2 cents for what it is worth....

I have to admit after thirty years as a safe and vault technician I have never seen anything of value in a customer "found" safe after I drilled them open.

Exception to the rule is death, I have found mostly junk in dead peoples safes nothing of value. One time a horder died and the attorney took possession of the home and the horder had 5 old large safes each safe was in the garage where it looked like a land fill. Each safe that I drilled had documents dating back before christ but no valuable items.

Now in regards to drug dealers that is a whole different subject, I have seen a lot of drugs in safes retreaved by the DEA whom I have done business with as well as the local PD and ATF.

Most people do have an account of all of thier items in a safe and if I am drilling a safe I have them stay with me at all times.

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Old 10 December 2009, 04:18 PM   #201
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My 2 cents for what it is worth....

I have to admit after thirty years as a safe and vault technician I have never seen anything of value in a customer "found" safe after I drilled them open.

Exception to the rule is death, I have found mostly junk in dead peoples safes nothing of value. One time a horder died and the attorney took possession of the home and the horder had 5 old large safes each safe was in the garage where it looked like a land fill. Each safe that I drilled had documents dating back before christ but no valuable items.

Now in regards to drug dealers that is a whole different subject, I have seen a lot of drugs in safes retreaved by the DEA whom I have done business with as well as the local PD and ATF.

Most people do have an account of all of thier items in a safe and if I am drilling a safe I have them stay with me at all times.


Dave! You are a safe cracker!? Cool!
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Old 16 December 2009, 04:02 AM   #202
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When I first saw this photo, I thought it was photoshoped. Look at the writing registered design, it looks flat across and does not follow the curve of the watch. Strange.
Tale sign, the distance between the letters from the top of the watch in the middle and then the letters on the ends. Hummm
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Old 16 December 2009, 08:56 AM   #203
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New life to the thread??? Good catch CaveDiver, also not centered, lug to lug. I just bought a new safe and this has been a great read.
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