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Dan S · 11 May 2023, 02:37 PM

First of all, many thanks to Mo (@swaini3), Robby (@southtexas), and Aaron (@swish77) for helping vet this when it became available. Since I tend to be more drawn to the no-date Sub references, I hadn't paid enough attention to the 1680, and was trying to learn a lot quickly. This was purchased as part of a lot from an estate; the buyer was mainly interested in one watch and was selling off the rest to recoup his investment.

No bracelet, unfortunately, but a nice Mk4 dial with aged waffle-texture lume and matching hands. The insert has a bit of fade, and fortunately I have been hanging on to an extra lume pip. The case is thick with strong crown guards; chamfers are present, but worn. Overall, I'm really happy with it, I love the color of the lume. I may put it on a 7206 for now, but obviously it needs a service.

The 2.36M serial lines up with the III.69 case-back, but is early for a Mk4 dial according to the conventional list on the DRSD site. The list hasn't been updated in a long time, so I tried to do some research myself and Mo also found several examples. For some reason, it's not easy to find many 2.3M Red Subs on the web (compared to both earlier and later serials), but I did unearth several 2.35M – 2.38M Mk4 examples, so I'm keeping an open mind at this point.

southtexas · 11 May 2023, 03:37 PM

Stunner. I vote unpolished (and dial is original to case). Congrats again.

KY.. · 11 May 2023, 04:07 PM

Congrats!
I don’t know why anyone would still choose modern over vintage when vintage has so much more personality and history.
Enjoy it with a 7206 for a while as it will look great IMO.
Please post pics if you do install one.

Mark020 · 11 May 2023, 05:08 PM

Nice one!!

swaini3 · 11 May 2023, 05:52 PM

nice find Dan. Enjoy it

zapokee · 11 May 2023, 05:58 PM

Super. Love those MK IV features - open sixes on the depth rating and red printing on a white base.

I assume you'll be cleaning the DNA out of that gasket channel quick smart.

Lol-x · 11 May 2023, 06:30 PM

Great choice.
Appreciation is in the eye of the beholder.
It definitely has impeccable character, and qualities that is no longer made today.

karleone · 11 May 2023, 09:39 PM

Congrats! Beautiful RedSub!

brandrea · 11 May 2023, 10:04 PM

Congratulations Dan, it’s a beauty

springer · 11 May 2023, 10:53 PM

Enjoy the new arrival Dan. Congratulations.

one80 · 11 May 2023, 11:05 PM

Beautiful example - congrats!

samuel019 · 11 May 2023, 11:14 PM

Congrats. Great example.

Are you on the hunt for a period correct bracelet or are you gonna use straps?

dhknola · 12 May 2023, 12:20 AM

Amazing pick up!
This thread is on one that I now regret not getting, it was a 2.29M serial.
https://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=840210

swish77 · 12 May 2023, 12:29 AM

Huge congrats, Dan! Looks like a fabulous example, and that case! So nice.

I wouldn't worry about the serial-number range for an MK4. It's really close to begin with and the DRSD list is an approximation anyway. When you look at the watch as a whole, it has a raw, original feel to it. I can't imagine that the dial didn't leave the factory in that case.

southtexas · 12 May 2023, 01:00 AM

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Originally Posted by swish77

Huge congrats, Dan! Looks like a fabulous example, and that case! So nice.

I wouldn't worry about the serial-number range for an MK4. It's really close to begin with and the DRSD list is an approximation anyway. When you look at the watch as a whole, it has a raw, original feel to it. I can't imagine that the dial didn't leave the factory in that case.

My take as well

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Dr.Smellody · 12 May 2023, 01:00 AM

Wow. That is AMAZING!!!

Love it.

TuRo · 12 May 2023, 01:01 AM

Looks v good Dan, nice waffling, orig crown, date wheel, handset and I think plexi is the original soft edge chamfer one too - all things I like.

Keep an eye on the l/h side edge of the 6 HR marker over time, tiniest bit of discolouration/ trit-rot just starting to appear perhaps...I have a Red and a DRSD that are both similar (mine are worse frankly) and both have seemed to get a tiny bit worse every 5 years when comparing photos yr to year, but no biggie. Nothing you can do about it other than keeping it dry/humidity free if one can.

Nice piece indeed though, congrats :-).

jedione65 · 12 May 2023, 01:04 AM

It looks amazing, just needs the bracelet or a nice brown aged strap.

Styles Bitchley · 12 May 2023, 01:20 AM

Really nice, Dan. Pretty early for mk iv.

cts · 12 May 2023, 01:33 AM

Yummy..

XavierM · 12 May 2023, 02:00 AM

Very nice one, well done !

TimeToGo · 12 May 2023, 02:21 AM

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Beautiful - Congrats!

Jackie Daytona · 12 May 2023, 03:08 AM

Beautiful watch! Enjoy it. Congrats!

Filipão · 12 May 2023, 03:27 AM

Classy! Perfect!

Congrats, can't get any better, Dan

Arnozerosix · 12 May 2023, 03:54 AM

Beautiful sample ! Congratulations....

Dom9 · 12 May 2023, 03:57 AM

What a great find and a very handsome watch!

emersm · 12 May 2023, 08:40 AM

Congratulations Dan, that is a beauty!!

TimeLord2 · 12 May 2023, 09:16 AM

Lovely watch with a very appealing patina. Well done!

alwayshere · 12 May 2023, 09:42 AM

gorgeous piece Dan. Can I ask if you got from dealer or private?

Dan S · 12 May 2023, 11:58 AM

Many thanks everyone for the comments. Sorry, not a great photo, but here is the watch on a 7206, which is certainly from the same period. I think it looks pretty good.

@alwayshere, it was sold by someone who actively seeks out and buys watches, mostly local to him. He flips a lot of them, but you wouldn't know his name and I wouldn't call him a dealer.

11 May 2023, 02:37 PM	#1
Dan S 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Oct 2018 Location: Colorado, USA Posts: 5,949	New arrival - Red 1680 Sub First of all, many thanks to Mo (@swaini3), Robby (@southtexas), and Aaron (@swish77) for helping vet this when it became available. Since I tend to be more drawn to the no-date Sub references, I hadn't paid enough attention to the 1680, and was trying to learn a lot quickly. This was purchased as part of a lot from an estate; the buyer was mainly interested in one watch and was selling off the rest to recoup his investment. No bracelet, unfortunately, but a nice Mk4 dial with aged waffle-texture lume and matching hands. The insert has a bit of fade, and fortunately I have been hanging on to an extra lume pip. The case is thick with strong crown guards; chamfers are present, but worn. Overall, I'm really happy with it, I love the color of the lume. I may put it on a 7206 for now, but obviously it needs a service. The 2.36M serial lines up with the III.69 case-back, but is early for a Mk4 dial according to the conventional list on the DRSD site. The list hasn't been updated in a long time, so I tried to do some research myself and Mo also found several examples. For some reason, it's not easy to find many 2.3M Red Subs on the web (compared to both earlier and later serials), but I did unearth several 2.35M – 2.38M Mk4 examples, so I'm keeping an open mind at this point. __________________ @oldwatchdan on IG

11 May 2023, 03:37 PM	#2
southtexas 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: May 2011 Location: Great State of TX Posts: 5,690	Stunner. I vote unpolished (and dial is original to case). Congrats again. __________________ Forty six & 2 are just ahead of me. Follow me on Instagram @ccrolex

11 May 2023, 04:07 PM	#3
KY.. 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2021 Real Name: Keith Location: California Watch: 60s to 90s Posts: 1,262	Congrats! I don’t know why anyone would still choose modern over vintage when vintage has so much more personality and history. Enjoy it with a 7206 for a while as it will look great IMO. Please post pics if you do install one. __________________ Just an admirer/enthusiast of vintage Rolex/Heuer/Zenith/Breitling/Hamilton watches since the 80’s… ”I Do Love The Details, But I Can Choose If I Accept The Flaws…”

11 May 2023, 06:30 PM	#7
Lol-x Facilitator Join Date: Nov 2005 Real Name: Steve Location: Omnipresent Posts: 33,256	Great choice. Appreciation is in the eye of the beholder. It definitely has impeccable character, and qualities that is no longer made today. __________________ *Most folks are about as happy as they make up their minds to be.* ~Abraham Lincoln Nothing compares to the simple pleasure of a bike ride. ~John F. Kennedy ROLEXploitation - yeah I'm a victim

11 May 2023, 10:53 PM	#10
springer 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Real Name: jP Location: Texas Watch: GMT-MASTER Posts: 17,212	Enjoy the new arrival Dan. Congratulations. __________________ Member of NAWCC since 1990. INSTAGRAM USER NAME: SPRINGERJFP Visit my Instagram page to view some of the finest vintage GMTs anywhere - as well as other vintage classics.

11 May 2023, 05:08 PM	#4
Mark020 "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Amsterdam Posts: 2,091	Nice one!!

11 May 2023, 05:52 PM	#5
swaini3 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2016 Real Name: Mo Location: Dubai Watch: 1675 GMT, DRSD Posts: 1,433	nice find Dan. Enjoy it

11 May 2023, 05:58 PM	#6
zapokee "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Japan Posts: 4,346	Super. Love those MK IV features - open sixes on the depth rating and red printing on a white base. I assume you'll be cleaning the DNA out of that gasket channel quick smart.

11 May 2023, 09:39 PM	#8
karleone "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Dayona Posts: 1,940	Congrats! Beautiful RedSub!

11 May 2023, 10:04 PM	#9
brandrea 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Jul 2013 Real Name: Brian (TBone) Location: canada Watch: es make me smile Posts: 73,906	Congratulations Dan, it’s a beauty

11 May 2023, 11:05 PM	#11
one80 "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2021 Location: Australia Posts: 66	Beautiful example - congrats!

11 May 2023, 11:14 PM	#12
samuel019 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Real Name: Anthony Location: Triad Watch: Me go broke!!!! Posts: 4,035	Congrats. Great example. Are you on the hunt for a period correct bracelet or are you gonna use straps? __________________ Rolex Collection: A few here and there. Just ask

12 May 2023, 12:20 AM	#13
dhknola "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2017 Location: New Orleans Posts: 1,154	Amazing pick up! This thread is on one that I now regret not getting, it was a 2.29M serial. https://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=840210

12 May 2023, 12:29 AM	#14
swish77 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Real Name: Aaron Location: CT/NYC Watch: ing the time! Posts: 6,800	Huge congrats, Dan! Looks like a fabulous example, and that case! So nice. I wouldn't worry about the serial-number range for an MK4. It's really close to begin with and the DRSD list is an approximation anyway. When you look at the watch as a whole, it has a raw, original feel to it. I can't imagine that the dial didn't leave the factory in that case.

12 May 2023, 01:00 AM	#16
Dr.Smellody "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2014 Location: Salem, OR Posts: 5,206	Wow. That is AMAZING!!! Love it.

12 May 2023, 01:01 AM	#17
TuRo "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2022 Real Name: Paul Location: Cantabrigia - G.B Watch: ing the detectives Posts: 2,547	Looks v good Dan, nice waffling, orig crown, date wheel, handset and I think plexi is the original soft edge chamfer one too - all things I like. Keep an eye on the l/h side edge of the 6 HR marker over time, tiniest bit of discolouration/ trit-rot just starting to appear perhaps...I have a Red and a DRSD that are both similar (mine are worse frankly) and both have seemed to get a tiny bit worse every 5 years when comparing photos yr to year, but no biggie. Nothing you can do about it other than keeping it dry/humidity free if one can. Nice piece indeed though, congrats :-). __________________ I know a lot of things that you don't You wanna hear some? She said, "Just give me something, anything Well, give me all you got but not love" DIFFERENT FOR GIRLS - Joe Jackson

12 May 2023, 01:04 AM	#18
jedione65 "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2023 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 204	It looks amazing, just needs the bracelet or a nice brown aged strap.

12 May 2023, 01:20 AM	#19
Styles Bitchley "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2017 Location: Canada Watch: 1680 Posts: 1,396	Really nice, Dan. Pretty early for mk iv.

12 May 2023, 01:33 AM	#20
cts "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2019 Location: USA Posts: 888	Yummy..

12 May 2023, 02:00 AM	#21
XavierM "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2019 Location: Paris, France Posts: 365	Very nice one, well done ! __________________ Instagram: @vert_eternel

12 May 2023, 02:21 AM	#22
TimeToGo 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: North Florida Posts: 16,600	. Beautiful - Congrats!

12 May 2023, 03:08 AM	#23
Jackie Daytona 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: Oct 2019 Real Name: Brian Location: Nashville Watch: 16750 Posts: 5,872	Beautiful watch! Enjoy it. Congrats! __________________ 16750 \| 6516(wife’s) \| 126334 \| 116400GV \| SBGA413 \| SRPE33 \| 126610LV

12 May 2023, 03:27 AM	#24
Filipão "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2018 Real Name: Filipe Location: Lisbon & Wadesdah Watch: Never too many Posts: 1,898	Classy! Perfect! Congrats, can't get any better, Dan

12 May 2023, 03:54 AM	#25
Arnozerosix "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2020 Location: france Posts: 169	Beautiful sample ! Congratulations....

12 May 2023, 03:57 AM	#26
Dom9 "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2023 Real Name: Dom Location: Surrey, UK Watch: SD16600 & 9411 Posts: 312	What a great find and a very handsome watch!

12 May 2023, 08:40 AM	#27
emersm 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Real Name: Merle Location: USA Watch: Rolex Posts: 2,482	Congratulations Dan, that is a beauty!!

12 May 2023, 09:16 AM	#28
TimeLord2 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: Jan 2019 Location: Valencia, CA Watch: GMT Master 1675/3 Posts: 2,055	Lovely watch with a very appealing patina. Well done!

12 May 2023, 09:42 AM	#29
alwayshere "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Australia Posts: 1,516	gorgeous piece Dan. Can I ask if you got from dealer or private?

12 May 2023, 11:58 AM	#30
Dan S 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Oct 2018 Location: Colorado, USA Posts: 5,949	Many thanks everyone for the comments. Sorry, not a great photo, but here is the watch on a 7206, which is certainly from the same period. I think it looks pretty good. @alwayshere, it was sold by someone who actively seeks out and buys watches, mostly local to him. He flips a lot of them, but you wouldn't know his name and I wouldn't call him a dealer. __________________ @oldwatchdan on IG

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