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marcello pisani · 2 September 2014, 02:18 AM

also a big nice HD pic of dial indexes would be very pleasant to see ...

marcello pisani · 2 September 2014, 02:27 AM

and study purposes :

CrownMe · 2 September 2014, 02:55 AM

Congrats Jesper. On a serious Roll lately. The FF insert looks great on it.

Frogdog · 2 September 2014, 02:59 AM

Looks fantastic and right at home on your wrist! Big congratulations! 👍

jollerbarn · 2 September 2014, 04:59 AM

Here's a shot of the dial with my camera. Should be zoomable.

DSC01095_resize.jpg

cruvon · 2 September 2014, 09:07 AM

Congrats Jesper, the patina is stunning!

RC2 · 2 September 2014, 10:28 AM

Maybe the camera played tricks. Man that was like a UFO sighting. Looks stunning

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nbTimes · 2 September 2014, 11:32 AM

It's a killer!!

Congrats and enjoy it ...

linesiders · 2 September 2014, 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by nbTimes

It's a killer!!

Congrats and enjoy it ...

Didn't you sell it?

nbTimes · 2 September 2014, 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by linesiders

Didn't you sell it?

no money!! was forced to sell... !!!

linesiders · 2 September 2014, 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by nbTimes

no money!! was forced to sell... !!!

So you did sell it.

No money? I'll buy some genuine & unaltered Tudor 7016 Mercedes hands if you got them - might do 7928 hands in a pinch.

GGGMT · 2 September 2014, 01:26 PM

Wow, that thread was a roller coaster. Thanks for the learning! Enjoy the 1680. What a piece!

QueueCumber · 2 September 2014, 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by GGGMT

Wow, that thread was a roller coaster. Thanks for the learning! Enjoy the 1680. What a piece!

I don't feel like I learned anything!

It should be required for people stating that laser welding was done to identify the laser welding areas or retract the statement. Isn't there some kind of rule about backing up statements like these with proof? It would seem to be the right thing to do to prevent people from making accusations that are false, or the polite thing to do to prevent potential buyers from being ripped off. It should be this way with any kind of accusatory statement IMO that potentially damages someone's reputation.

Otherwise, what is to stop people from intentionally denigrating some sellers unfairly, while elevating others inappropriately in the process with a few statements that are never backed up?

The truth shall set us all free...

GGGMT · 2 September 2014, 01:44 PM

Fair points! As for me, I wasn't even aware of the concept of laser welding on a case - a new thing to watch for. Although it doesn't even seem to have existed in this instance, as you note.

QueueCumber · 2 September 2014, 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by GGGMT

Although it doesn't even seem to have existed in this instance, as you note.

I don't know if it exists or doesn't exist!

Old Expat Beast · 2 September 2014, 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by GGGMT

Fair points! As for me, I wasn't even aware of the concept of laser welding on a case - a new thing to watch for. Although it doesn't even seem to have existed in this instance, as you note.

Quite a good thread on it here, although the pics don't seem to be working for me.
http://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=208240

GGGMT · 2 September 2014, 02:12 PM

OEB: thank you. That's helpful and interesting. (Tho I too can't see the pix). Gg

jollerbarn · 2 September 2014, 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by QueueCumber

I don't feel like I learned anything!

It should be required for people stating that laser welding was done to identify the laser welding areas or retract the statement. Isn't there some kind of rule about backing up statements like these with proof? It would seem to be the right thing to do to prevent people from making accusations that are false, or the polite thing to do to prevent potential buyers from being ripped off. It should be this way with any kind of accusatory statement IMO that potentially damages someone's reputation.

Otherwise, what is to stop people from intentionally denigrating some sellers unfairly, while elevating others inappropriately in the process with a few statements that are never backed up?

The truth shall set us all free...

I did actually report Gelroy's first claim for not being backed up with solid proof. I am not sue though, if anything came of it.

I completely agree with your points. I chose to trust Ben's clams that the watch hadn't seen such repairs, and I'm glad that I did.

PoderEsBueno · 2 September 2014, 08:58 PM

Congrats Jesper

Stunning!

Kingface66 · 3 September 2014, 12:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by QueueCumber

I don't feel like I learned anything!

It should be required for people stating that laser welding was done to identify the laser welding areas or retract the statement. Isn't there some kind of rule about backing up statements like these with proof? It would seem to be the right thing to do to prevent people from making accusations that are false, or the polite thing to do to prevent potential buyers from being ripped off. It should be this way with any kind of accusatory statement IMO that potentially damages someone's reputation.

Otherwise, what is to stop people from intentionally denigrating some sellers unfairly, while elevating others inappropriately in the process with a few statements that are never backed up?

The truth shall set us all free...

Couldn't agree more, Q. Granted, judging a watch by a few photos is always going to raise some uncertainties, especially for highly detailed aspects. But, if you're going to make a claim with absolute assuredness and conviction, and then back away when proof is required, it's a disservice to us all.
It's not a competition. We're all after the same thing, I would hope.
Just my two cents.

swish77 · 3 September 2014, 01:06 AM

This issue has been discussed on VRF in the past (not on this specific watch, though. Not that I saw.) Do a search, and you'll see some other threads about it.

Johny · 3 September 2014, 01:30 AM

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Originally Posted by jollerbarn

I did actually report Gelroy's first claim for not being backed up with solid proof. I am not sue though, if anything came of it.

I completely agree with your points. I chose to trust Ben's clams that the watch hadn't seen such repairs, and I'm glad that I did.

any reply from gelroy?

JerimiahLee · 3 September 2014, 02:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by QueueCumber

I don't feel like I learned anything!

It should be required for people stating that laser welding was done to identify the laser welding areas or retract the statement. Isn't there some kind of rule about backing up statements like these with proof? It would seem to be the right thing to do to prevent people from making accusations that are false, or the polite thing to do to prevent potential buyers from being ripped off. It should be this way with any kind of accusatory statement IMO that potentially damages someone's reputation.

Otherwise, what is to stop people from intentionally denigrating some sellers unfairly, while elevating others inappropriately in the process with a few statements that are never backed up?

The truth shall set us all free...

Cosigned.

jollerbarn · 3 September 2014, 03:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Johny

any reply from gelroy?

No, not yet. I'm happy with the watch just the same :-)

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gelroy · 3 September 2014, 03:50 AM

deleted because of a scathing message i received

not from the OP!

I am done with this thread.....

DCheeta · 3 September 2014, 04:06 AM

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Originally Posted by gelroy

Case restoring is not a bad thing but should be unveiled by any honest seller.

I think this just about sums it up.

To the OP: it's a beauty of a watch, enjoy and congrats!

jollerbarn · 3 September 2014, 04:32 AM

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Originally Posted by DCheeta

I think this just about sums it up.

To the OP: it's a beauty of a watch, enjoy and congrats!

Thanks, I love it :-)

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Johny · 3 September 2014, 06:20 AM

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Originally Posted by jollerbarn

No, not yet. I'm happy with the watch just the same :-)

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just read where he says that he is done with the thread so I guess that you and all the other forum members myself included who asked him for an explanation of his statement are going to have to do without one.

jollerbarn · 3 September 2014, 06:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Johny

just read where he says that he is done with the thread so I guess that you and all the other forum members myself included who asked him for an explanation of his statement are going to have to do without one.

So it would seem. What seems to be the center of his arguments is that; when comparing to other similar subs the finish on mine should not be possible without a magic touch of some kind. I'm just not a big enough expert to challenge that and I'm perfectly happy either way

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2 September 2014, 02:27 AM	#62
marcello pisani "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: italy Posts: 991	for comparison .... and study purposes :

2 September 2014, 09:07 AM	#66
cruvon "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Australia Posts: 4,688	Congrats Jesper, the patina is stunning! __________________ Last thing I remember, I was Running outta sight I had to find the passage back,To the place I was before. ’Relax,’ said this Rolex place,We are programmed to receive. You can checkout any time you like, But you can never leave!

2 September 2014, 10:28 AM	#67
RC2 "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Real Name: Rich Location: NC Watch: Rolex 1675 Posts: 2,359	Maybe the camera played tricks. Man that was like a UFO sighting. Looks stunning Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk __________________ Rich Member of Nylon Nation Red Sox Nation Instagram watchguy97

2 September 2014, 02:18 AM	#61
marcello pisani "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: italy Posts: 991	also a big nice HD pic of dial indexes would be very pleasant to see ...

2 September 2014, 02:55 AM	#63
CrownMe "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2013 Real Name: Kevin Location: Maryland Watch: My Open 6 Posts: 3,433	Congrats Jesper. On a serious Roll lately. The FF insert looks great on it.

2 September 2014, 02:59 AM	#64
Frogdog "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Kentucky Watch: u talknbout Willis Posts: 688	Looks fantastic and right at home on your wrist! Big congratulations! 👍

2 September 2014, 04:59 AM	#65
jollerbarn Member Join Date: Feb 2013 Real Name: Jesper Location: Denmark Watch: out for scammers! Posts: 365	Here's a shot of the dial with my camera. Should be zoomable. DSC01095_resize.jpg

2 September 2014, 11:32 AM	#68
nbTimes Banned Join Date: May 2006 Location: Hong Kong Watch: COMEX 1665 Posts: 2,830	It's a killer!! Congrats and enjoy it ...

2 September 2014, 01:26 PM	#72
GGGMT 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: Itinerant Watch: 79010sg Posts: 8,090	Wow, that thread was a roller coaster. Thanks for the learning! Enjoy the 1680. What a piece!

2 September 2014, 01:44 PM	#74
GGGMT 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: Itinerant Watch: 79010sg Posts: 8,090	Fair points! As for me, I wasn't even aware of the concept of laser welding on a case - a new thing to watch for. Although it doesn't even seem to have existed in this instance, as you note.

2 September 2014, 02:12 PM	#77
GGGMT 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: Itinerant Watch: 79010sg Posts: 8,090	OEB: thank you. That's helpful and interesting. (Tho I too can't see the pix). Gg

2 September 2014, 08:58 PM	#79
PoderEsBueno "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2013 Real Name: peb Location: Istanbul Posts: 3,145	Congrats Jesper Stunning!

3 September 2014, 01:06 AM	#81
swish77 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Real Name: Aaron Location: CT/NYC Watch: ing the time! Posts: 6,802	This issue has been discussed on VRF in the past (not on this specific watch, though. Not that I saw.) Do a search, and you'll see some other threads about it.

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gelroy "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: London Posts: 31	deleted because of a scathing message i received not from the OP! I am done with this thread.....

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