Tudor Big Block full set scarcity and price increases...

[Franks07]

Are vintage Tudor Big Block Chronographs finally getting the collector recognition they deserve? I've noticed that really nice full set examples available for sale are increasingly rare and the asking prices appear to be up sharply. There are only 13 examples currently for sale on Chrono24 (only 3 or 4 full sets) and very rarely here on the forum. Any thoughts out there from the experts?

[sillo]

I wouldn't be surprised considering what any Daytona is going for.

One thing I noticed when I was searching for one was that Chrono24 listings, specifically from Europe, were significantly more expensive than the ones listed on the forums/Watch Recon. I also would guess they just didn't sell that many of them compared to Daytonas so there's just less of them out there.

I ended up getting a pre-tiger 79260 with box and papers for $5250 in December for reference.

[MinMay]

I noticed the increase as well...also, if you save them on chrono24, they are usually sold out within the month. I inquired one for $9000, and it was sold a month later when I checked back.

[zapokee]

Tudor Big Blocks may be among the next wave of great investments as collectors get priced out of the Daytona/Gilt market. Get one while you can!

[enginerd]

Originally Posted by zapokee

Tudor Big Blocks may be among the next wave of great investments as collectors get priced out of the Daytona/Gilt market. Get one while you can!

Just one?

[RazorD]

Love these! Been shopping for one for a while but haven't been able to settle on just the right one yet.

[Franks07]

Anyone see the new listing for a full set black dial 79170 on EBay with an asking price of $13,500? Be interesting to see what it sells for. I bought the same reference (full set) about two years ago for less than half that.

[Franks07]

Originally Posted by enginerd

Just one?

Very nice "family" you have there!

[rootbeer7]

Originally Posted by zapokee

Tudor Big Blocks may be among the next wave of great investments as collectors get priced out of the Daytona/Gilt market. Get one while you can!

And they’re now calling the 72xxx series Little Blocks

[NKflyer]

^^ 792xx is "small block" lol! Like big block and small block chevy motors.

[sillo]

Originally Posted by rootbeer7

And they’re now calling the 72xxx series Little Blocks

First time I've seen that lol. I've seen them referred to as small blocks pretty often though.

[rootbeer7]

Originally Posted by NKflyer

^^ 792xx is "small block" lol! Like big block and small block chevy motors.

As if the association makes them more valuable.

[zapokee]

Originally Posted by enginerd

Just one?

That's a sickness.

[Dan Pierce]

Small Block, my a$$. There's a 1mm difference in thickness between the 791XX vs 792XX series. The case design make the differences seem larger than they are in reality.

Both the Oysterdates and Prince Dates will enjoy a future rise in value. How much is less important than the joy in wearing them.
dP

[rootbeer7]

Originally Posted by Dan Pierce

Small Block, my a$$. There's a 1mm difference in thickness between the 791XX vs 792XX series. The case design makes the differences seem larger than they are in reality.

Both the Oysterdates and Prince Dates will enjoy a future rise in value. How much is less important than the joy in wearing them.
dP

Exactly this

[Andad]

Nice work Dan.

Great comparison.

[Dan Pierce]

Originally Posted by rootbeer7

Exactly this

Originally Posted by directioneng

Nice work Dan.

Great comparison.

Thanks, Eddie!
dP

[Filipão]

GBP£3,625.00 last May.

Will never sell it, though.

[themaninblack]

These are a nice collectible but don’t expect any great price appreciation. I think that the price on these has been fairly stagnant for the past few years. I think only particular vintage Tudor watches, essentially subs, gilt and Snowflake have seen substantial appreciation in recent years. A bit like vintage Rolex Date and Datejust, in general only relatively small price increases. A Daytona is a Daytona, like it or lump it, and these ain’t!

[Fleetlord]

Originally Posted by themaninblack

These are a nice collectible but don’t expect any great price appreciation. I think that the price on these has been fairly stagnant for the past few years. I think only particular vintage Tudor watches, essentially subs, gilt and Snowflake have seen substantial appreciation in recent years. A bit like vintage Rolex Date and Datejust, in general only relatively small price increases. A Daytona is a Daytona, like it or lump it, and these ain’t!

I agree with this...

I think dealers are REALLY trying to make this the next big thing with hyped up asking prices.

Earlier this year I attended a major vintage watch show and the dealers there were not as enthusiastic about these as one would think...

[rootbeer7]

I tend to agree with the above, except that they are now on the radar. I remember looking at one around 7 years ago. Priced at £2750. Dealer said don’t waste you’re time, there are better pieces out there. In that time, they haven’t doubled, but the fact there are posts such as these, later and less desirable models jumping on the band-wagon with similar names and in some cases missold as Big Blocks, they will keep rising. They are also wonderful tool watches as well.

[Dan Pierce]

Originally Posted by themaninblack

These are a nice collectible but don’t expect any great price appreciation. I think that the price on these has been fairly stagnant for the past few years. I think only particular vintage Tudor watches, essentially subs, gilt and Snowflake have seen substantial appreciation in recent years. A bit like vintage Rolex Date and Datejust, in general only relatively small price increases. A Daytona is a Daytona, like it or lump it, and these ain’t!

The fact these ARE NOT Daytona’s is exactly the point so many seem to miss. The lack of a date feature, limited bezel and dial options, make it much less desirable to many of us who prefer Tudor for those very reasons.
dP

[Andad]

[QUOTE=rootbeer7;8824824]I tend to agree with the above, except that they are now on the radar. I remember looking at one around 7 years ago. Priced at £2750. Dealer said don’t waste you’re time, there are better pieces out there. In that time, they haven’t doubled, but the fact there are posts such as these, later and less desirable models jumping on the band-wagon with similar names and in some cases missold as Big Blocks, they will keep rising. They are also wonderful tool watches as well.[/QUOTE

Jeez, don't tell Fleetlord or themaninback.

[Fleetlord]

[QUOTE=directioneng;8825067]

Originally Posted by rootbeer7

I tend to agree with the above, except that they are now on the radar. I remember looking at one around 7 years ago. Priced at £2750. Dealer said don’t waste you’re time, there are better pieces out there. In that time, they haven’t doubled, but the fact there are posts such as these, later and less desirable models jumping on the band-wagon with similar names and in some cases missold as Big Blocks, they will keep rising. They are also wonderful tool watches as well.[/QUOTE

Jeez, don't tell Fleetlord or themaninback.

So here is what is interesting...

The same show where the Big Block was being marginalized was overflowing with Daytonas...I mean all over the place.

There wasn't one Big Block offered for sale at all.

Trust me, I have one and really like it. But there is a REALLY big chasm between BID and ASK from dealers on these...

[MinMay]

I recall reading somewhere they stated Daytona was created because of the Vintage Tudor chronograph. And the chronograph movement started from Tudor.

[themaninblack]

Originally Posted by MinMay

I recall reading somewhere they stated Daytona was created because of the Vintage Tudor chronograph. And the chronograph movement started from Tudor.

I don’t think so!

[rootbeer7]

Nor do I, but Tudor put crown-guards on case first.

[Chope Man]

And Tudor made an automatic chronograph before Rolex did, as well.

Now, as for the date (and day and month), remember the "Jean-Claude Killy"... Rolex did it first.

[mitadoc]

I hope they will not receive the necessary recognition - anyway it is hard to get a bracelet with the correct end links nowadays ( at a decent price of course).
Cheers
DA