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MrBenF · 6 August 2017, 11:34 PM

I never expected to be posting this as I've always considered myself to be a dress-watch person. In fact, over the past few months I've been looking for a PC and I always expected that to be my next purchase.

But after having spent too much time on TRF and seeing how much adulation is reserved for the 5711/5712, I saw that a local dealer got a 5712/1A in stock. So I went to see it yesterday (Sat) and was pleasantly surprised. This's the 1st time I've seen a SS nautilus in person (an AD has one in dual-tone). One reservation is that at 43mm, it's borderline too large for my wrist as I prefer sub-39mm. I didn't expect to like it but I did and it's growing on me. Call me a convert/believer.

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Anyway, having never purchased a pre-owned watch before, I've a couple of questions I'd like to ask:-
- the 4yo old watch (dated mid-2013) is priced (net) ~5% below MRP. Is this reasonable? Normally I'd think not, but given the demand for this piece I'm unsure
- the salesperson said that it is customary for pre-owned watches to have a light polish prior to sale. Is this correct? If this is so, it may be a potential sticking point. Given the choice, I wouldn't want to 'waste' at least 1/3 polishes on a 4y.o watch. Also from what I'd deduce, this watch has had >= 2 owners. So if aforementioned is true, that means it'd have been polished >= *2 times?

Finally
- given the discount to MRP, is the consensus to get this piece now or to wait/locate for a NIB from an AD? Or get a 5711 instead of a 5712?

There's another interested buyer but since I was the 'first' to express interest, I was given until Monday am to make a decision (< 48hrs) before it'd be offered to the other person. I'm in no hurry to get the watch and am happy to wait.

texex91 · 6 August 2017, 11:51 PM

5% off MSRP for a 4 year old watch? Don't know how it was treated plus no warranty.

I'd wait and just get a new one at MSRP.

nick c · 7 August 2017, 12:05 AM

As Paul said go for the new one ^^

GB-man · 7 August 2017, 12:16 AM

I'd be willing to wait for new. I realize the market is pretty firm but I don't buy the hype.

MrBenF · 7 August 2017, 12:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by texex91

5% off MSRP for a 4 year old watch? Don't know how it was treated plus no warranty.

I'd wait and just get a new one at MSRP.

From what I can ascertain, it'd had at least 2 owners. Dealer offers a 1yr warranty.

I agree with you Paul. My preference is to wait.

goog53 · 7 August 2017, 12:31 AM

Wait my friend

mps354 · 7 August 2017, 12:52 AM

As others have said, better to wait

martinr · 7 August 2017, 01:00 AM

I'd call Takuya, he has a new one for sale on here at a little over retail. Make him an offer!

nyc2la · 7 August 2017, 01:20 AM

Wait is the right answer in this case. Get on some AD lists. Good luck.

KarlS · 7 August 2017, 02:18 AM

Wait.

josephvman · 7 August 2017, 02:24 AM

I think the 5712 looks great on your wrist, but I would wait for a new one unless the price delta was more like 15% to buy used. I understand the wait list for 5712 isn't crazy and I think some have posted finding new ones in stock. That might have changed with the insane 5711 market however, as the 5712 has become a relative bargain.

teb1013 · 7 August 2017, 02:33 AM

A 5% saving on a 4 year old watch sounds almost insulting to me. I would probably walk out and go to a different AD and order there or look for a great used watch from someone who is willing to give a real discount. I know the desire to have the watch now is great but for a 5% saving, never.

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Vipes · 7 August 2017, 05:32 AM

I would definitely pass if it had a light polish from anyone except Patek. I would wait for a new one.

spiker · 7 August 2017, 07:10 AM

I recently placed and order for a new 5712 at a AD with a deposit. Hopefully the wait won't be long!

Calatrava r · 7 August 2017, 10:13 AM

The watch in question is 40mm not 43mm.

JPMD · 7 August 2017, 10:21 AM

X2
Call Takuya, send money, wear next day

Hairdude1 · 7 August 2017, 10:48 AM

I would wait

MrBenF · 7 August 2017, 10:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Calatrava r

The watch in question is 40mm not 43mm.

The bezel measures 40mm, but 43mm across the 'ears'.

MrBenF · 7 August 2017, 10:14 PM

Thanks everyone.

The feedback has been unanimous and it confirmed my initial gut feel. I told the dealer I'd psss and it's gone to another buyer.

tonupbklyn · 8 August 2017, 02:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by martinr

I'd call Takuya, he has a new one for sale on here at a little over retail. Make him an offer!

do this NOW!!

6 August 2017, 11:34 PM	#1
MrBenF "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2017 Real Name: Ben Location: Sydney Posts: 114	5712/1A - buy pre-owned or wait? I never expected to be posting this as I've always considered myself to be a dress-watch person. In fact, over the past few months I've been looking for a PC and I always expected that to be my next purchase. But after having spent too much time on TRF and seeing how much adulation is reserved for the 5711/5712, I saw that a local dealer got a 5712/1A in stock. So I went to see it yesterday (Sat) and was pleasantly surprised. This's the 1st time I've seen a SS nautilus in person (an AD has one in dual-tone). One reservation is that at 43mm, it's borderline too large for my wrist as I prefer sub-39mm. I didn't expect to like it but I did and it's growing on me. Call me a convert/believer. IMG_2487.JPG Anyway, having never purchased a pre-owned watch before, I've a couple of questions I'd like to ask:- - the 4yo old watch (dated mid-2013) is priced (net) ~5% below MRP. Is this reasonable? Normally I'd think not, but given the demand for this piece I'm unsure - the salesperson said that it is customary for pre-owned watches to have a light polish prior to sale. Is this correct? If this is so, it may be a potential sticking point. Given the choice, I wouldn't want to 'waste' at least 1/3 polishes on a 4y.o watch. Also from what I'd deduce, this watch has had >= 2 owners. So if aforementioned is true, that means it'd have been polished >= 2 times? Finally - given the discount to MRP, is the consensus to get this piece now* or to wait/locate for a NIB from an AD? Or get a 5711 instead of a 5712? There's another interested buyer but since I was the 'first' to express interest, I was given until Monday am to make a decision (< 48hrs) before it'd be offered to the other person. I'm in no hurry to get the watch and am happy to wait.

7 August 2017, 12:16 AM	#4
GB-man 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: USA Watch: addiction issues Posts: 36,899	I'd be willing to wait for new. I realize the market is pretty firm but I don't buy the hype. __________________

7 August 2017, 12:31 AM	#6
goog53 "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Real Name: Mike G Location: Ohio Watch: Rolex-Patek-AP Posts: 3,061	Wait my friend __________________ The only thing better than the watches are the people behind them. "The best watch in the world is the one that's on your wrist." Morgan King "Do you like having a good time? Then you need a good watch!" Rocky Balboa

7 August 2017, 01:20 AM	#9
nyc2la "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2014 Real Name: Stephen Location: Beach Watch: 16660 Posts: 9,182	Wait is the right answer in this case. Get on some AD lists. Good luck. __________________ "Nothing great was ever achieved without enthusiasm." --- RWE

7 August 2017, 10:48 AM	#17
Hairdude1 "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Real Name: Alex Location: Chicago Watch: AP,PP, Rolex Posts: 37,156	I would wait __________________ Instagram: @Hairdude Watches in Collection 5070R, 5522A, 214270 MK1, 228238 16750, 26401, 5711, 116718, 116710LN, 116300, 16710"Coke", 372, 15300, 15703 (All Flipped) Official Member "Perpetual 30" Las Vegas GTG 2016 Official Member "WIS-CON" Las Vegas International GTG 2017 Official Member 'WIS-CON' Las Vegas Int'l GTG 2018

6 August 2017, 11:51 PM	#2
texex91 "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: . Posts: 17,898	5% off MSRP for a 4 year old watch? Don't know how it was treated plus no warranty. I'd wait and just get a new one at MSRP.

7 August 2017, 12:05 AM	#3
nick c Banned Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Canada Posts: 26,846	As Paul said go for the new one ^^

7 August 2017, 12:52 AM	#7
mps354 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Real Name: Mike Location: CT Posts: 8,977	As others have said, better to wait

7 August 2017, 01:00 AM	#8
martinr "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: California Posts: 3,099	I'd call Takuya, he has a new one for sale on here at a little over retail. Make him an offer!

7 August 2017, 02:18 AM	#10
KarlS Banned Join Date: Nov 2015 Real Name: Karl Location: Kuwait Posts: 5,228	Wait.

7 August 2017, 02:24 AM	#11
josephvman Banned Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: Houston, TX USA Posts: 808	I think the 5712 looks great on your wrist, but I would wait for a new one unless the price delta was more like 15% to buy used. I understand the wait list for 5712 isn't crazy and I think some have posted finding new ones in stock. That might have changed with the insane 5711 market however, as the 5712 has become a relative bargain.

7 August 2017, 02:33 AM	#12
teb1013 "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2016 Location: Easton PA Posts: 581	A 5% saving on a 4 year old watch sounds almost insulting to me. I would probably walk out and go to a different AD and order there or look for a great used watch from someone who is willing to give a real discount. I know the desire to have the watch now is great but for a 5% saving, never. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

7 August 2017, 05:32 AM	#13
Vipes "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Texas Posts: 4,846	I would definitely pass if it had a light polish from anyone except Patek. I would wait for a new one.

7 August 2017, 07:10 AM	#14
spiker "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: IL Posts: 77	I recently placed and order for a new 5712 at a AD with a deposit. Hopefully the wait won't be long!

7 August 2017, 10:13 AM	#15
Calatrava r 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Mar 2017 Location: United States Watch: Rolex and Patek Posts: 10,655	The watch in question is 40mm not 43mm.

7 August 2017, 10:21 AM	#16
JPMD "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2015 Real Name: John Location: Boca Raton, FL Watch: PP/AP/Rolex Posts: 101	X2 Call Takuya, send money, wear next day

7 August 2017, 10:14 PM	#19
MrBenF "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2017 Real Name: Ben Location: Sydney Posts: 114	Thanks everyone. The feedback has been unanimous and it confirmed my initial gut feel. I told the dealer I'd psss and it's gone to another buyer.

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