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29 March 2020, 01:08 AM | #61 |
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Just call or email a trusted seller or call or email an AD.
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29 March 2020, 01:32 AM | #63 |
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Good deal for 5711 1A
The classifieds on here are a great source. WatchRecon. And dealer websites.
If you’re serious about making a purchase, please negotiate. The published price is not the price right now
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Indeed. I'm not going to name specific references or dealers, but prices I've been offered on some hot PPs from grey dealers are in the magnitude of 15-25% cheaper than the lowest price on C24 or WatchRecon recent listing.
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29 March 2020, 02:10 AM | #65 |
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29 March 2020, 05:22 AM | #66 |
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Back in the great recession of the late 2000s, SS Nautilus was selling at 20-30% off MSRP. That was a different time period.
We don't know what the next few months or years will be like for the global economy. However I wouldn't buy a SS Nautilus for close to twice MSRP at today's market. |
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Completely wrong information = A persons viewpoint that disagrees with commonproject Nice to see you’re a humble person as well.
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29 March 2020, 06:48 AM | #71 | |
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I recall you could get nice full set 5980s in the high 30s.
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Go back and read your own posts in this thread, or do you need me to quote them again for everyone else to see? |
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But still there are lots of other sales where they haven’t dropped the prices at all. Listen, as Rolex continues to increase output and if the economy stays bad I’m sure prices will definitely come down. I certainly hope we don’t get to the point where we were 3 to 5 years ago because that would mean the economy would have to be bad. I’m not wishing for a bad economy so that we can all get hot Rolex models at MSRP. What I should say is so that you can get hot Rolex models at MSRP because I already do even with a great economy. :-)
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https://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=697593 5711: $74.9-->$59.9K https://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=725953 5712: $75K+ from original thread-->$59.7K https://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=730567 5712: $67.8K https://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=695372 5712:$80k-->$64.9K https://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=719645 5711: $70K+-->$65.4K |
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a) born poor and afraid to get poor again b) the wife is keeping my balls in a deadlock On a serious note - I think the new strategies for Rolex and PP will be to move to more exclusivity in the higher end pieces and more liquidity on the entry lvl. This is quite achievable with the modern marketing tools - influencers, social media etc. I am curious what will happen with Richard Mille - all these football players cutting their salaries now - would they outbid themselves for the RM 11s (my bet is yes, because they are not the smartest lads in the world). |
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Um........ those are Pateks. Specifically Nautilus of which were pretty much agreed-upon were overpriced to begin with. You know like before the virus..
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I still kick myself for turning down a 5712/1A for $29k back in 2015 (Brand new from AD).
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Um.......you're posting in a Patek forums and this is literally a thread about 5711. You post IN this thread about how popular models have not dropped a cent. And now you're going off about rolexes. Are you high on drugs from the coronavirus or something?
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Yes but we switched to talking about all watches in general. My only argument about the 5711 is that it will never be sold at MSRP by greys or even close to MSRP. It was stupid of me to continue to engage you once I had an understanding of your general overall attitude......I won’t make that mistake again.
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29 March 2020, 09:43 AM | #82 | |
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A lot of folks spent liberally at ADs on jewelry, bundled watches that they prob dont love, etc all to move up the wait list to then purchase at MSRP. This along with the wait time and opportunity cost figure into your purchase price. We would all seem to all agree that pre COVID that Nautis were "overpriced"but yet what is a reasonable valuation? Its so hard to determine, right? which is why so many people post on these forums for advice when a dealers posts a for sale. (This is how this thread started of course). Im inclined to suggest 10-15% over MSRP for a (near) mint B&P for any Nauti on bracelet. Would you all agree or am I way off? |
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Doing some spring cleaning today, came across a Patek UK brochure and price list from 2010. 5711 listed at £14880. Now £23440!
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5740 is at retail...
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Really hard to say. The 5711 is just so wildly popular and for better or worse has become the face of PP to many. I think it’s hard to see them selling for low to mid $40s. But, I certainly see other Nautilus and most Aquanauts headed there in the not too distant future. Your guess is as good as mine
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Sorry I wasnt aware-you are saying the 5740 which is at the top of prior threads "Lack of Availability Rankings" is now selling at retail price?!?
If this is true, considering where we are, then what would this say about the 5711/1R and the steel models even those that are discontinued? |
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i've seen a few dealers at 135-140k us for a 5740 but not retail.. I think a platinum variant with a light ice blue dial would be cool
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