5164 Pusher Questions

[calatravaquanautilus]

1. It’s water resistant to 120m. Is it ok if the local time pusher is pressed under water?

2. Is it ok to change the date by using then local time pusher? For those of you who are more knowledgeable about the mechanics of the movements, can you think of a reason why it would be bad for the watch?

Thanks!


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[Patekaddict]

Why would you need to press anything under water? Like sometimes I don't understand the people behind buying into the brand.....

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[calatravaquanautilus]

Originally Posted by Patekaddict

Why would you need to press anything under water? Like sometimes I don't understand the people behind buying into the brand.....

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I am not suggesting that anyone presses the pusher under water on purpose. If you read the original post, I asked in the passive tense “if the pusher is pressed...”. I think it’s pretty obvious that the question implies that the pusher is pressed unintentionally. Like you said why would anyone need to press anything under water (intentionally)?


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[Patekaddict]

Will be compromised and you will definitely get condensation inside the movement.

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[Passionata]

Originally Posted by calatravaquanautilus

I am not suggesting that anyone presses the pusher under water on purpose. If you read the original post, I asked in the passive tense “if the pusher is pressed...”. I think it’s pretty obvious that the question implies that the pusher is pressed unintentionally. Like you said why would anyone need to press anything under water (intentionally)?


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For this specific reason i haven t bought any sports Patek with pushers,an accidental push is unavoidable ,then the stated water resistance isn t more than a nice feature of a water damaged watch.

[tp.]

Straight from Patek’s manual.

refrain from using functions (actuating pushers or correction push pieces or setting the time with the crown) while the watch is underwater or still wet,

[calatravaquanautilus]

Originally Posted by tp.

Straight from Patek’s manual.

Thank you. Is that from the 5164 manual? I read through it but didn’t see it. Wondering if I missed it.


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[tp.]

Originally Posted by calatravaquanautilus

Thank you. Is that from the 5164 manual? I read through it but didn’t see it. Wondering if I missed it.


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Not in the book but on their website, under services.

[AK797]

I do find the pushers on my 64 quite hard to activate, so not too worried about it being done accidentally.

[BigAppleBill]

Originally Posted by AK797

I do find the pushers on my 64 quite hard to activate, so not too worried about it being done accidentally.

Agree. I don’t think they’re necessary hard to activate, but they definitely require intention to activate them.

[GB-man]

I’ve taken mine on my sea doo, in pools etc and never any issues. A risk I’m willing to take.

[calatravaquanautilus]

Thanks all for the responses. For those of you who own this model or any travel time model, do you have any thoughts on adjusting the date with the local time pusher? Any reason that might be bad for the movement or does anyone know for a fact that it doesn’t affect the movement?


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[Josh1000]

At Baselworld in 2018 I asked that specific question more so for the chrono) and it was referred to that chappie who appears on all the videos. He said it is discouraged but there are gaskets and it should not impact the integrity of the watch. The disclaimer is to prevent claims from people who basically misuse the functionality. I wouldn't recommend unscrewing a submariner crown at 50m either

[srvrf]

Originally Posted by calatravaquanautilus

Thanks all for the responses. For those of you who own this model or any travel time model, do you have any thoughts on adjusting the date with the local time pusher? Any reason that might be bad for the movement or does anyone know for a fact that it doesn’t affect the movement?


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I’m sure it is fine. Once it is set, it should only have to be pressed eight times a year (seven on a leap year). That being said, I’d probably just advance the time 24 hours ahead on months with less than 31 days.


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[BigAppleBill]

Originally Posted by calatravaquanautilus

Thanks all for the responses. For those of you who own this model or any travel time model, do you have any thoughts on adjusting the date with the local time pusher? Any reason that might be bad for the movement or does anyone know for a fact that it doesn’t affect the movement?


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I don’t think it harms the movement to advance the date by using the pusher. Obviously you must do this when traveling across datelines, which I’ve done. I’ve also set the date at the end of the month by way of the crown. All seems benign. The travel time feature by use of the pushers is so easy and intuitive. For me, this is by far the most fantastic travel watch (and I own a 16710 Pepsi as well).

[calatravaquanautilus]

I should’ve been more specific in my question. I was wondering about changing the date multiple days. For example if you don’t wear it for about a week and then pick it up and need to adjust it by 7 days. Does the pin pusher have to be used, or can you adjust the date by pushing the local time adjuster?

One could also use the crown to change the time and date, but that could be time consuming if we’re talking several days.


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[locutus49]

If you want, I will trade you for my 5167, which has no pushers. Straight up trade. I want to help you.

[ap1]

It’s a 5164 - who cares which date it’s set for if not needed for travel. Mine rests a lot too. Somethimes I use pusher or just pick up and go w/o changing date

[Calatrava r]

I just cannot bring myself to submerge any Patek in water. Leave that for Rolex.
I get concerned when Patek recommends annual pressure testing if taking the watch in water.

[calatravaquanautilus]

Originally Posted by locutus49

If you want, I will trade you for my 5167, which has no pushers. Straight up trade. I want to help you.

Lol How selfless of you! Love the Christmas spirit but I couldn’t do that to a fellow TRFer.


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[calatravaquanautilus]

Originally Posted by ap1

It’s a 5164 - who cares which date it’s set for if not needed for travel. Mine rests a lot too. Somethimes I use pusher or just pick up and go w/o changing date

I hear you, but there are days when it just bothers me lol


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