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Old 28 June 2020, 01:28 AM   #31
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The issue is, that is hard to get with no purchase history. Otherwise I’d just for for 5167a new from AD.
I feel the pain, I have been on lists for a 5212 for a year now, it sucks.
But buy what you really like or just wait it out. Otherwise you are just losing money
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Old 29 June 2020, 01:25 PM   #32
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I can’t play along. I absolutely would never buy a 5167a for $35,000.
Agree with this.
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Old 29 June 2020, 02:16 PM   #33
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If you want something new at an AD, I’d suggest a Patek 5227 or 5196p
If you want a a Rolex, I’d look for a a PM Daytona, or a Day Date 40
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Old 29 June 2020, 10:07 PM   #34
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High end sports watch on rubber? I'd go AP diver, for half the budget.
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Old 1 July 2020, 06:19 AM   #35
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The market already speaks for itself.....

That why the 5167 have superior resale value......

Yeah, there are many alternatives timepieces that you could walk into a AD and take home a great timepiece for $35K...... But guess what..... The minute you walk out...... It TANK...!!!

I believe the OP is talking about buying the 5167 at the aftermarket price. He will certainly lose money on it, at least in the short term, if he sells it. The 5167 is really only a great value at retail.
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Old 1 July 2020, 06:34 AM   #36
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I'd look at a Journe LineSport. Quirky, for sure, but great idiosyncratic watches, and fabulous in the flesh. If my wrists were a little bigger or it was a little smaller, I'd have one now.

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Old 1 July 2020, 06:42 AM   #37
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A pattern I’ve learned in life is that compromise sometimes comes at a prohibitively expensive cost.

If you really like the watch, take the plunge but make sure you keep hold of it for a long time.
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Old 1 July 2020, 07:00 AM   #38
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I believe the OP is talking about buying the 5167 at the aftermarket price. He will certainly lose money on it, at least in the short term, if he sells it. The 5167 is really only a great value at retail.
Yes I was talking aftermarket. And I’m not really looking for great value. I was just trying to see what you could get new for the price of an aftermarket 5167a value. 5167a is great watch and if it still is in mid 30ks when I am ready, I might do it.
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Old 1 July 2020, 07:01 AM   #39
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A pattern I’ve learned in life is that compromise sometimes comes at a prohibitively expensive cost.

If you really like the watch, take the plunge but make sure you keep hold of it for a long time.
Yes. When it comes to buying a watch like PP, I won’t compromise on what I want.
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Old 1 July 2020, 09:45 AM   #40
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I'd look at a Journe LineSport. Quirky, for sure, but great idiosyncratic watches, and fabulous in the flesh. If my wrists were a little bigger or it was a little smaller, I'd have one now.



Agreed- linesport In 40mm would be a no-brainer for me


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I'd look at a Journe LineSport. Quirky, for sure, but great idiosyncratic watches, and fabulous in the flesh. If my wrists were a little bigger or it was a little smaller, I'd have one now.

This is a nice choice, and I also agree with the comment on the size.
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I believe the OP is talking about buying the 5167 at the aftermarket price. He will certainly lose money on it, at least in the short term, if he sells it. The 5167 is really only a great value at retail.
Either way he will lose money on a 35K non hot timepieces alternatives, that he could walk into a AD and take home now....

As I mention, all hot timepieces alternatives you can't just walk into a AD and get them...... Plus all those hot timepieces alternatives go for more than suggested retail price on secondly market .......

OP should buy what he like end of story instead of looking for alternatives......

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Agreed- linesport In 40mm would be a no-brainer for me


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Sadly even the 40mm was too large for my wrists as the bracelet is rather inflexible at the lugs. Absolutely loved it though...
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Old 1 July 2020, 09:17 PM   #44
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Faced the same choice - went with a 5205G-010.
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Old 1 July 2020, 11:04 PM   #45
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Old 2 July 2020, 02:57 AM   #46
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Old 2 July 2020, 03:55 AM   #47
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A nice watch for those who bought it at $10k/$15k before all the recent hype.


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Yes I was talking aftermarket. And I’m not really looking for great value. I was just trying to see what you could get new for the price of an aftermarket 5167a value. 5167a is great watch and if it still is in mid 30ks when I am ready, I might do it.
might as well.

msrp and market value are both very real things.

msrp is also extremely expensive when you think about how much money you likely had to spend in order to "qualify" for getting one at MSRP.

if you look at it a certain way, gray market might even be much cheaper.

and while I could be wrong, it appears unlikely any of these watches will ever be available in greater quantities than they are now. which means market value is likely not going to change.

I am in the same boat, debating the 5968a and I think I just convinced myself to pull the trigger.
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I believe the OP is talking about buying the 5167 at the aftermarket price. He will certainly lose money on it, at least in the short term, if he sells it. The 5167 is really only a great value at retail.
why. might be a few bucks. But all these watches have good resale as long as they are not all scratched and dinged up.
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