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Old 1 July 2020, 07:58 PM   #1
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Vintage Sub Condition

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Please let me know your thoughts on the case condition of the below 1680, 1-10. Always appreciate any insight and feedback on the dial, bezel, hands etc.
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Old 1 July 2020, 08:01 PM   #2
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Old 1 July 2020, 09:00 PM   #3
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1-10?
I would rate it at a 7.27543886 to be exact.
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Old 1 July 2020, 11:45 PM   #4
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It was poorly polished in the past and has “roly poly” lugs as a result.
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Old 2 July 2020, 12:37 AM   #5
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Looking at these, the best strategy is to find a NOS one for sale. Then you can compare. I did this when I was looking at a 16710.

Realised how the polishing had been done, and now... I am GMT less.

I'd rather wait than jump on something that will be hard to resell.
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Old 2 July 2020, 03:23 AM   #6
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Old 2 July 2020, 03:41 AM   #7
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It was poorly polished in the past and has “roly poly” lugs as a result.
Agreed that it looks a bit rounded, but the case and crown guards still look quite thick. I'm thinking that a good case restoration, perhaps at LAWW, could bring it back to life. In other words, it appears there's still meat on the bone, although I'd want to see much better and more detailed photos of the case/lugs.

Otherwise appears to be a nice example, but the bezel pearl looks a bit odd. Has it been replaced? Seems to be missing the little plastic ring around the pearl, although perhaps it's just the lighting.
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Old 2 July 2020, 04:24 AM   #8
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I see a decent original watch. Of course it has been polished - almost all vintage watches were refinished in the past - or polished if you prefer - at some point.

I'd give it a 7 to 7.5 and rate the complete watch above average condition based on its age.
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Old 2 July 2020, 05:17 AM   #9
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It’s a wearable watch the you won’t by worried about knocking or scratching
It can always be restored at a later date
All depending on the price
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Old 2 July 2020, 05:24 AM   #10
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Appreciate all of the insight, this is my first vintage and have been doing some serious homework. The only thing that is working against me is that I have never personally handled a vintage sub, so I have nothing really to compare it to. This is why I come to the experts!!
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Old 2 July 2020, 07:46 AM   #11
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Looks correct to me. Lugs are still thick even patina, still has the pearl. If you like the price this is a piece you'll enjoy and not stress about wearing every day.
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Old 2 July 2020, 10:34 AM   #12
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I'd be happy with it. Nice honest Sub
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Old 2 July 2020, 10:44 AM   #13
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Really??? Sheesh. I’d call this a 7.0 easily.
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Old 2 July 2020, 10:55 AM   #14
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Really??? Sheesh. I’d call this a 7.0 easily.
think he was trying to quote PI (as a joke)
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Old 2 July 2020, 11:01 AM   #15
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think he was trying to quote PI (as a joke)
Serves me right.
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Old 2 July 2020, 04:30 PM   #16
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Agreed that it looks a bit rounded, but the case and crown guards still look quite thick.
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I see a decent original watch. Of course it has been polished - almost all vintage watches were refinished in the past - or polished if you prefer - at some point.
Agree. This is a nice piece. It could easily be re-detailed, but it's pretty good as it is.
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