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11 January 2019, 05:18 AM | #1 |
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Opinion/input on this 5513 Gilt
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I just want some second opinion/input on this 12mill serial 5513 Gilt. Lets look beside the dial, I know its BAD, like really bad, but the rest of the watch looks decent in my opinion? The watch will be used as a daily beater. My main question is the case and the insert, insert looks like a legit long 5 and the case looks like its strong? I know the pictures aren't the best... Thanks! |
11 January 2019, 07:46 AM | #2 |
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Normally I’d say avoid with a dial like that, but I recently saw a post on IG of a guy restoring these and he can do it pretty much 100% so I would consider it for a restoration. Looks good if the price is right.
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11 January 2019, 08:17 AM | #3 |
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@waspy1 who was it? Michael Young?
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11 January 2019, 08:21 AM | #4 |
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A restored Dial is the kiss of Death in Vintage Rolex,Even a relumed Dial kills about 50% of the Watches value AND your Buyer pool shrinks by 75%.What I’m saying is,Value it harshly Today with the damaged Dial and leave it alone.
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11 January 2019, 08:23 AM | #5 |
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I wouldn't touch the dial at all, would just leave it that way(or maybe down the road find a better one), Like I said, its gonna be a beater.
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11 January 2019, 08:51 AM | #6 |
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Other than dial and hands, looks pretty damn nice. Better have a serious discount associated with it.
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11 January 2019, 08:57 AM | #7 |
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Edit: I would honestly keep the dial and see if I could source a service dial or period correct dial
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11 January 2019, 09:03 AM | #8 |
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Check rolexikon on IG. Posts from 1 December 2018.
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11 January 2019, 09:11 AM | #9 |
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Wow, that's insanely good work. I wonder if in the future we will see a trend where restored dials like these are okay when compared to damaged dials such as in the OP's post.....
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Wow !!! Very nice work.....I've never shied away from a possible restore of dial. I do PARTIALLY understand the value in been all original but if one restores a dial and it doesn't bother you then by all means.... wear it love. It's like people who dont't drive their cars (collectible cars) because they don't want the odometer turning over to the next digit ? Were built like a society that wants to own museum pieces for the sake of conversation and brag ? |
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11 January 2019, 09:22 AM | #11 |
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Rather than all gilt dials eventually looking like the OP (and eventually they will), surely it is reasonable for proper disclosed restoration. I’d much rather this work which is effectively a relaquer and relume than to have a redial.
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11 January 2019, 10:44 AM | #12 |
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It all depends on your taste for historic pieces. I would prefer a preserved one rather than a perfectly restored one, but every passing day is harder to find a good original untouched and also is becoming really expensive. One can say that if Leonardo's Gioconda painting had been never been restored (and a hell a lot of times!), it's for sure that would be horrible to look at it.
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Wouldn’t touch it, find a better example and pay more
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13 January 2019, 06:26 AM | #15 |
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What will happen is more people getting them refinished and trying to pass off as original......which in the long run scares the majority of people away from vintage
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I would source another like dial. Will wind up costing, so hopefully the cost of the watch is such that a "new" dial would not break the budget or investment aspect of the Sub. Maybe source a "new" dial and sell the old to recoup some of the cost? Or if the "new" dial is "cheap" enough, keep the old as it will only add to the Sub's provenance. |
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14 January 2019, 11:50 AM | #18 |
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This restoration was done by Rik Dietel. He sends the dials to London. This particular watch was purchased new by my great uncle, in 1966, who then gave it to me in the 1970s. Watch was made 3q1965. The dial was flaking and falling apart... looked terrible. Now you cannot tell it from new. The pictures taken on an iPhone don’t do the gilt dial justice. Fully understand some would never buy it, but I don’t intend to ever sell it.
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