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hrlgst · 8 June 2013, 03:21 AM

I love the looks of the ceramic bezel on the newer Subs, but I don't know if I want something that's easy to scratch. Which is better, ceramic or the older aluminum?

Lion · 8 June 2013, 03:26 AM

It my understanding that the Ceramic bezel insert will not scratch as easily but they can break occasionally and then it's costly to replace!!!

Take it easy.....Leo

MartyMcFly · 8 June 2013, 03:29 AM

The ceramic also has a more mirror like finish. It is more reflective.

OYSTERMANN · 8 June 2013, 03:29 AM

The ceramic is certainly a tough material, but, like anything else, it'll get damaged if abused. That said, the aluminium bezel is more likely to get scratched in every day use, but cheaper to replace.

mannyv11 · 8 June 2013, 03:30 AM

They are very scratch resistant, but with that being said they do have a chance to break. With that being said it's about what you feel comfortable with. I prefer the look of the ceramic in the end just can't beat that shine IMO!

OYSTERMANN · 8 June 2013, 03:34 AM

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Originally Posted by mannyv11

They are very scratch resistant, but with that being said they do have a chance to break. With that being said it's about what you feel comfortable with. I prefer the look of the ceramic in the end just can't beat that shine IMO!

I agree with you :-)

padi56 · 8 June 2013, 03:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hrlgst

I love the looks of the ceramic bezel on the newer Subs, but I don't know if I want something that's easy to scratch. Which is better, ceramic or the older aluminum?

Well both function more or less the same although the ceramic is said to be more scratch resistant.But it can get scratched and there have been several reports of it happening plus the insert pearls getting chipped.So IMHO any advantages the ceramics might have over the perfectly functional aluminium is out weighed by the disadvantages.To replace a ceramic insert cost wise is around $450 upward plus its not a DIY job.Now to replace the aluminium insert is a 10 minute DIY job and costs around $75.

Solo118 · 8 June 2013, 03:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hrlgst

I love the looks of the ceramic bezel on the newer Subs, but I don't know if I want something that's easy to scratch. Which is better, ceramic or the older aluminum?

Just go with which sings to you.

Many of us like the new modern sub with thick lugs and other upgraded bits. Ceramic is nice but like others said very costly to replace

However

Many of us like the classic sub lines and timeless design. The aluminum is classic looking and costs aroun $100 to replace.

Daytona-Dan · 8 June 2013, 03:40 AM

I love the ceramic bezel on the Subs, they look far better than the aluminium ones. For day to day use (light bumps and scrapes), the ceramic will be far more durable but if you're heavy handed with your things, I would stay away as a hard knock at the wrong angle is enough to scratch or crack it (just like any other item that takes a hard knock).

Furbo · 8 June 2013, 03:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hrlgst

I love the looks of the ceramic bezel on the newer Subs, but I don't know if I want something that's easy to scratch. Which is better, ceramic or the older aluminum?

It's not just about bezel, if you want new, updated sub, you have to go ceramic. :) I love mine.

SohAIS · 8 June 2013, 03:42 AM

I like the look and feel of the ceramic on some models

Oryx · 8 June 2013, 03:42 AM

ceramic any day - i have both type but the ceramic is really something else.

The updated sub is defo the one to go for

Brandon(phila) · 8 June 2013, 03:53 AM

The "breakages" of the Ceramic are far a few. So it's not like they just break if you bump it once and a while. I hard smack on cement maybe.

As far a scratches or fading on the Aluminums....have a 11 Sea Dweller and it used to my "beater" the bezel looks like it did back in 2002. It's not like the high polished Daytona bezel that accumulates scratches very easily.

Try some on and see what you like better on your wrist...either way you can't go wrong

beshannon · 8 June 2013, 04:04 AM

Better is completely subjective and totally up to you

Trouble15 · 8 June 2013, 04:37 AM

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Originally Posted by beshannon

Better is completely subjective and totally up to you

Well said.

travisb · 8 June 2013, 04:40 AM

"Better" is all in the mind of the buyer.
I prefer the ceramic bezel for the shine and scratch resistance.

mrbill2mrbill2 · 8 June 2013, 05:07 AM

Aluminun bezel and a tuna fish can bracelet for me.

Newer is not always better!

Watchdog · 8 June 2013, 05:26 AM

I love the size and shine of the ceramic; however, I do worry about that one costly mistake.

Rolex-10 · 8 June 2013, 05:27 AM

Ceramic blows the Alluminium out of the proverbial water.

Alluminium wins the price war though.

kilyung · 8 June 2013, 06:19 AM

IMO there is no "better". I like both for different reasons and purposes.

mmmk604 · 8 June 2013, 06:23 AM

My SubC has hit everything from doors, walls, tables, etc.

The ceramic insert has no scratches whatsoever.

JJL · 8 June 2013, 06:29 AM

I have to admit and it's something I'm not proud of saying, but I do like the look of the new ceramic bezels more - however, I absolutely love the fact the aluminums are easy to swap out (especially for GMTs) and how cheap they are to replace.

Furbo · 8 June 2013, 06:31 AM

Why should you be ashamed of liking new bezel? I love mine, it looks great.

landroverking · 8 June 2013, 06:38 AM

Anything but the "C".

Frogman4me · 8 June 2013, 07:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mrbill2mrbill2

aluminun bezel and a tuna fish can bracelet for me.

Newer is not always better!

+1

ecsub44 · 8 June 2013, 07:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mrbill2mrbill2

Aluminun bezel and a tuna fish can bracelet for me.

Newer is not always better!

+ 1,000,000

427shark · 8 June 2013, 07:54 AM

I like my ceramic bezel better. To my knowledge its also harder to scratch then the aluminum, mine doesn't have a single scratch on it

Bangel · 8 June 2013, 08:13 AM

I think the ceramic can handle everyday knocks and bumps and still look like the day you bought it. My ceramic insert certainly still looks pristine, (not so the rest of the watch

).

I believe it's in the unlikely event of some planet colliding equivalent misfortune where the bezel gets an almighty whack at the wrong angle that the ceramic can shatter.

melons · 8 June 2013, 08:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by landroverking

anything but the "c".

+1

Eric88 · 8 June 2013, 08:24 AM

Each has pros and cons that have debated dozens of times. I like both for different reasons. One thing I really like about ceramic is the chameleon quality based on lighting. It goes from deep, oily black to iridescent grey; sometimes it shines bright and other times it looks more muted. The best part of the ceramic (Subs at least) is the maxi dial and glidelock bracelet.

8 June 2013, 03:21 AM	#1
hrlgst "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Arkansas, USA Posts: 130	Ceramic or Aluminum Bezel? I love the looks of the ceramic bezel on the newer Subs, but I don't know if I want something that's easy to scratch. Which is better, ceramic or the older aluminum? __________________ 116203 Blue Dial DJ, 116203 Tuxedo Dial DJ, Omega Hour Vision, JLC Master Control, DD 18238, IWC Portofino IW356307, 116613C T/T Black Sub

8 June 2013, 03:26 AM	#2
Lion "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Real Name: Leo Location: Midwest Watch: GMT-II 16710 PEPSI Posts: 21,461	It my understanding that the Ceramic bezel insert will not scratch as easily but they can break occasionally and then it's costly to replace!!! Take it easy.....Leo __________________ SS GMT-II 16710 PEPSI(Z-serial#) THE ONLY DIFFERENCE BETWEEN MEN AND BOYS IS THE PRICE OF THE TOYS!!! MontBlanc Meisterstuck Doue Silver Barley MontBlanc Meisterstuck Solitaire Doue Signum Proud Card Carrying Member of the Curmudgeons.....Yikes!!!

8 June 2013, 03:29 AM	#4
OYSTERMANN "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Real Name: Neil Location: West Midlands UK Watch: DJ,DD,GMTIIc,Sub Posts: 7,063	The ceramic is certainly a tough material, but, like anything else, it'll get damaged if abused. That said, the aluminium bezel is more likely to get scratched in every day use, but cheaper to replace. __________________ Neil 116231 SS/RG DATEJUST 2007 118238 YG DAY-DATE 2007 116713 LN SS/YG GMT IIc 2008 116613 LB SS/YG SUBMARINER 2009 216570 SS EXPLORER II 2013 116520 SS DAYTONA 2014

8 June 2013, 03:42 AM	#12
Oryx "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: London Posts: 1,872	ceramic any day - i have both type but the ceramic is really something else. The updated sub is defo the one to go for Last edited by Oryx; 8 June 2013 at 03:46 AM.. Reason: typo

8 June 2013, 04:04 AM	#14
beshannon "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Real Name: Brian Location: Northern Virginia Watch: One of Not Many Posts: 17,895	Better is completely subjective and totally up to you __________________ Vacheron Constantin Traditionnelle Complete Calendar, Glashutte PanoInverse, Glashutte SeaQ Panorama Date, Omega Aqua Terra 150, Omega CK 859, Omega Speedmaster 3861 Moonwatch, Glashutte Senator Exellence, Rolex 116710 GMT Master II BLNR, Breitling Superocean Steelfish, JLC Atmos Transparent

8 June 2013, 03:29 AM	#3
MartyMcFly "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: New York Watch: Explorer II -Polar Posts: 32	The ceramic also has a more mirror like finish. It is more reflective.

8 June 2013, 03:30 AM	#5
mannyv11 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Real Name: Manny Location: MA Watch: DD,Sub,GMT,Daytona Posts: 4,442	They are very scratch resistant, but with that being said they do have a chance to break. With that being said it's about what you feel comfortable with. I prefer the look of the ceramic in the end just can't beat that shine IMO!

8 June 2013, 03:40 AM	#9
Daytona-Dan Banned Join Date: May 2013 Real Name: Dan Location: UK Watch: 116528 Posts: 1,049	I love the ceramic bezel on the Subs, they look far better than the aluminium ones. For day to day use (light bumps and scrapes), the ceramic will be far more durable but if you're heavy handed with your things, I would stay away as a hard knock at the wrong angle is enough to scratch or crack it (just like any other item that takes a hard knock).

8 June 2013, 03:42 AM	#11
SohAIS ⭐⭐⭐⭐ 2024 DATEJUST41 Sponsor & Boutique Seller Join Date: Sep 2010 Real Name: Aamir Location: Atlanta, Georgia Watch: Patek, Rolex Posts: 31,913	I like the look and feel of the ceramic on some models

8 June 2013, 03:53 AM	#13
Brandon(phila) "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Real Name: Brandon Location: Phila burbs Watch: DSSD Posts: 755	The "breakages" of the Ceramic are far a few. So it's not like they just break if you bump it once and a while. I hard smack on cement maybe. As far a scratches or fading on the Aluminums....have a 11 Sea Dweller and it used to my "beater" the bezel looks like it did back in 2002. It's not like the high polished Daytona bezel that accumulates scratches very easily. Try some on and see what you like better on your wrist...either way you can't go wrong

8 June 2013, 04:40 AM	#16
travisb 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Real Name: Travis Location: FL / NYC Watch: Yes.. Posts: 32,177	"Better" is all in the mind of the buyer. I prefer the ceramic bezel for the shine and scratch resistance.

8 June 2013, 05:07 AM	#17
mrbill2mrbill2 "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Real Name: Mr. Bill Location: South Florida Watch: 16610 Posts: 6,148	Aluminun bezel and a tuna fish can bracelet for me. Newer is not always better! __________________ Card Carrying Member of the Global Association of the Retro-Grouch-Curmudgeons - ID # 13

8 June 2013, 05:26 AM	#18
Watchdog "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Real Name: Junkyard Dog Location: The Doghouse Watch: I can't tell time Posts: 6,709	I love the size and shine of the ceramic; however, I do worry about that one costly mistake.

8 June 2013, 05:27 AM	#19
Rolex-10 Banned Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: UK Posts: 288	Ceramic blows the Alluminium out of the proverbial water. Alluminium wins the price war though.

8 June 2013, 06:19 AM	#20
kilyung 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Cave Watch: Sundial Posts: 33,870	IMO there is no "better". I like both for different reasons and purposes.

8 June 2013, 06:23 AM	#21
mmmk604 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Canada Watch: 116610LN Posts: 1,594	My SubC has hit everything from doors, walls, tables, etc. The ceramic insert has no scratches whatsoever.

8 June 2013, 06:29 AM	#22
JJL "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: US Watch: 1680 Red & 16622 Posts: 2,447	I have to admit and it's something I'm not proud of saying, but I do like the look of the new ceramic bezels more - however, I absolutely love the fact the aluminums are easy to swap out (especially for GMTs) and how cheap they are to replace.

8 June 2013, 06:31 AM	#23
Furbo "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Slovenia, EU Watch: BLNR Posts: 1,507	Why should you be ashamed of liking new bezel? I love mine, it looks great.

8 June 2013, 06:38 AM	#24
landroverking "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Real Name: Jay Location: TEXAS Watch: Daytona Posts: 7,648	Anything but the "C".

8 June 2013, 07:54 AM	#27
427shark "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Real Name: JD Location: Jersey Watch: Dj2 tt, 126610LV Posts: 772	I like my ceramic bezel better. To my knowledge its also harder to scratch then the aluminum, mine doesn't have a single scratch on it __________________ It's not easy being green

8 June 2013, 08:13 AM	#28
Bangel "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Australia Watch: 116610LN Posts: 15,802	I think the ceramic can handle everyday knocks and bumps and still look like the day you bought it. My ceramic insert certainly still looks pristine, (not so the rest of the watch ). I believe it's in the unlikely event of some planet colliding equivalent misfortune where the bezel gets an almighty whack at the wrong angle that the ceramic can shatter.

8 June 2013, 08:24 AM	#30
Eric88 "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: 88 keys Posts: 2,238	Each has pros and cons that have debated dozens of times. I like both for different reasons. One thing I really like about ceramic is the chameleon quality based on lighting. It goes from deep, oily black to iridescent grey; sometimes it shines bright and other times it looks more muted. The best part of the ceramic (Subs at least) is the maxi dial and glidelock bracelet.

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