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28 July 2011, 11:24 AM | #61 |
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28 July 2011, 12:55 PM | #62 |
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Sorry for any confusion caused by my earlier post. After reading (not skimming) the Omega press releases, I'm pretty sure the salesman and I just did not know what we were looking at and that those were the "matt black ceramic" bezels. Strange that he said the ceramic versions would be coming later, but I'll leave that alone.
As mentioned, I'm not very impressed with the bezels. But I don't want to only focus on the negative. I think the layout of the new chrono is a huge improvement over the previous PO chrono. On the previous version, I hate the date between 4 and 5 and I never liked the Speedmaster layout with the registers at 3, 6, and 9. I much preferred the layout on the SMP chrono with the date at 3 and the registers at 6, 9, and 12. I'm also a firm believer in the Chuck Maddox philosophy that a chronograph should have not less than 3 registers. In this case, I think the layout with the date at 6 and the registers at 3 and 9 looks very clean and works very nicely. And the fact that one of the registers performs the functions that would typically be take up two registers, the 3 register requirement is satisfied for me. The watches were also very pleasing aesthetically (except for the dull grey bezels). The new style matte dial is quite pleasing and the finishing is top notch. If I had not been hoping to see with LM and a lacquered dial, my initial reaction probably would have been much more positive. |
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I did find your negative review of the matte ceramic bezel interesting. I for one was very excited to see it (and still am) and figured it would be kind of cool. I really want a 9300 and LOVE the fact that the PO now has a ceramic bezel. As a DSSD & SubC owner I can attest to the strength of the bezels as I've had multiple encounters when I slammed the heck out of those bezels that I guarantee would have scratched my old aluminum inserts of my previously owned Subs. Aside from the fact they the black PO is ceramic, I thought it would be cool to be matte. Since the Rolex ceramic bezels obviously are so glossy, I figured a matte ceramic would be killer in that it changes up the look of the collection even more. But it sounds like the 'in person' viewing leaves a lot to be desired. I'm hoping this won't be a deal breaker for me when I eventually check one out in person. |
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I must say I'm a little bummed Omega doesn't update the bezel teeth of the SMP's. My first love is my SMP Chrono that has this same bezel...and while I love almost everything about the watch, the simple fact is this bezel design is NOT very good for grip when the watch is wet. The teeth of the Subs are one of the best designs I've ever used when it comes to slick grip, yet the SMP will always be tough to spin if they refuse to change. Too bad...
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Regardless of their relative prestige, I'm more inclined to get a new SMP than a new PO. On balance, Omega corrected most of the things I didn't like about the previous SMP, while keeping its basic DNA intact. I have zero problem with the fact it retains the 2500. In not giving it the 8500, Omega has kept it from getting even thicker, and have kept its price in some realm of sanity. For me, it's one of the more exciting releases this year, by any watch company. |
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But I'll freely admit the new price is still pretty hard to swallow...I'll probably wait to buy a LNIB to save some cash (assuming of course I can hold off long enough...I said the same thing about the DSSD and then found myself buying 3 months after it came out ). And I'm a little concerned about the thickness...that too may be a deal breaker. Time will tell. |
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Yeah I admit I had not focused enough on the literature to really argue with the salesman. So while his response caught me by surprise, I wasn't in any kind of position to say otherwise. The whole interaction was kind of awkward and added to my overall disappointment.
Now, after reading the materials and these responses, I want to go back and have another look with different expectations. Maybe I'll like the new bezel if I see it again. I think anyone interested needs to see the bezels for themselves and make their own decision. While it did not appeal to me at first inspection, others may think it's really slick or tough looking. |
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I tried on the new PO Chrono and did not think it looked awkwardly thick (which is the reaction I had when I tried on the DSSD). Tried searching for the dimensions of the new PO chrono and found one post claiming it's 19.2 mm. If that's true, it's thicker then the DSSD, but it didn't strike me as wearing as tall as the DSSD. Optical illusion maybe based on the larger diameter and that the lugs curve down.
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Just wanted to say to everyone that I now realize, while arguing primarily with Improviz and JacksonStone, that I was mistakenly using the information on the new, soon to be released, Planet Ocean's Ceramic bezel and thinking that what was the material construct of the new PO LM's bezel. I now see that both LMs ( the original and the new Ti model) have the same bezel and the new bezel is on the standard PO.
Anyway, hope you guys accept my apology and accept me back in the Omega family as I am buying 2 new ones in the very near future!!!! |
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Barstoolman, pull up a stool and have a beer. Good to have you back.
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29 July 2011, 01:19 PM | #73 |
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I'll raise a glass to that myself!
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I saw the new PO the other day at an AD and it is really great looking. If I were to buy a diver it would be high on the list. I think it is disappointing that the new SMP has the same kind of hands like the last model. The older gladiator hands looked much better imo and I was hoping Omega would bring them back.
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Preferences are purely subjective; obviously there's no right or wrong. But I like the skeleton hands better than the sword hands, and am glad they're still here. The sword hands struck me as more generic, kind of toning down the uniqueness of the overall watch design. SMP, with skeleton hands, on a Bond bracelet - that's the "true" SMP, as far as my own preferences go. Of course, this theory might completely fall apart if I'm wrong in thinking the skeleton hands came first. |
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