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View Poll Results: PAM 187 Vs. AP Diver
Pam 187 10 15.63%
AP Diver 54 84.38%
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Old 19 June 2018, 03:44 AM   #1
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Help me choose my next watch! AP Vs. Panerai

So i'm looking into getting my next watch, and have been going back and forth between the Pam 187 and the AP diver. I love both watches but as I like to not have similar watches in my collection, I want to only have one of these...

Also open to any other suggestions in the similar price range, but not looking into a sub (have a GMT and to me too similar)


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Old 19 June 2018, 04:01 AM   #2
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Old 19 June 2018, 04:28 AM   #3
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I really like Panerai, but in this instance prefer the AP
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Old 19 June 2018, 04:33 AM   #4
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Old 19 June 2018, 04:54 AM   #5
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This is a tough choice boys... for once, the price difference is t my main concern lol
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Old 19 June 2018, 06:54 AM   #6
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I really like Panerai right now although I previously bought one (not a submersible) and within 2 weeks the novelty had worn off and I sold it. This was about a year before I bought my first AP and I have to say AP is in a different league. I keep considering a Panerai but each time I try one on I’m not 100% about it. I haven’t checked but I’d say AP is likely to have far better resale too.


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Old 19 June 2018, 07:15 AM   #7
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I really like Panerai right now although I previously bought one (not a submersible) and within 2 weeks the novelty had worn off and I sold it. This was about a year before I bought my first AP and I have to say AP is in a different league. I keep considering a Panerai but each time I try one on I’m not 100% about it. I haven’t checked but I’d say AP is likely to have far better resale too.


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For a while I was settled on the pam 187 but after wearing my stepdad's ap I cant get it out of my head! I'm leaning more AP as well...
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Old 19 June 2018, 07:37 AM   #8
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Old 19 June 2018, 10:59 AM   #9
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The Ap will scratch a lot more then the Panerai.
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Old 19 June 2018, 11:20 AM   #10
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I like the look of the AP Diver slightly more. Both are great watches. There was a time that I was drooling for a pan but somehow finally decided my comfort zone is about 40mm. Even my Breitling super ocean steelfish at 44mm felt heavy and bulky but it gets wrist time here and there.
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Old 19 June 2018, 11:22 AM   #11
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AP diver? Only exist in name. Not really known as a legit tool watch or meant for adventures beyond high end bars and malls. If you wanna diver--Rolex or Omega are the most solid choices.
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Old 19 June 2018, 12:14 PM   #12
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I like the look of the AP Diver slightly more. Both are great watches. There was a time that I was drooling for a pan but somehow finally decided my comfort zone is about 40mm. Even my Breitling super ocean steelfish at 44mm felt heavy and bulky but it gets wrist time here and there.
Yes the size is a bigger than I’m used to but I like it! The look of the 187 is just memorizing... I’ve never tried one on but I’m basing off of trying on other 47mm pam’s
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Old 19 June 2018, 12:17 PM   #13
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AP diver? Only exist in name. Not really known as a legit tool watch or meant for adventures beyond high end bars and malls. If you wanna diver--Rolex or Omega are the most solid choices.
Joes you want the watch for a weekend warrior... something tough and out of the ordinary... as I put on the og post, not looking into a sub and omega divers aren’t my cup of tea.. thanks bud!
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Old 19 June 2018, 03:36 PM   #14
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Both great watches, but I would personally lean toward the AP diver if I had to chose just one.
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I was actually looking at this choice a few years ago as that PAM was my fave one, but I went with the AP, which is a different level really.
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Old 19 June 2018, 11:29 PM   #16
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The Panerai is a beast and at 47 mm has a lot of wrist presence. Make sure you get a good deal and the watch is complete with box and papers. If the watch has not been serviced within the last few years you need to deduct the cost of a service as it will be needing it within a reasonable time frame.
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Old 20 June 2018, 12:22 AM   #17
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I had 3 Pams and 2 AP, only kept the AP ceramic diver, really doesn't compare, AP is clearly in a different league
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Old 20 June 2018, 12:57 AM   #19
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The Panerai is a beast and at 47 mm has a lot of wrist presence. Make sure you get a good deal and the watch is complete with box and papers. If the watch has not been serviced within the last few years you need to deduct the cost of a service as it will be needing it within a reasonable time frame.
This is exactly my problem right now, the 187 was a limited run of 1000 pieces and i have found ones in BNIB condition without the box and papers... lol I know I dont wear the box or papers but its a piece of mind thing as this would be my first non-AD purchase... on a plus, as my collection grows and some watches dont get thrown into the rotation, i.e. pam or ap is a summer watch for me, id like to store them in the safe in their boxes...


Thanks for all the feed back guys!
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Old 20 June 2018, 02:29 AM   #20
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I'm not sure how these are even comparable TBH
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Old 20 June 2018, 02:39 AM   #21
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These watches aren’t even in the same league. The AP is miles better
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I'm not sure how these are even comparable TBH
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These watches aren’t even in the same league. The AP is miles better
They compare because these are 2 options I am debating on purchasing next... my bank account only lets me get one though! lol

Dont really care about "leagues" I buy watches because I like them not to be an owner of a particular brand... They have similar look and feel, both oversized, "divers", and rugged looked for a summer watch...
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They compare because these are 2 options I am debating on purchasing next... my bank account only lets me get one though! lol

Dont really care about "leagues" I buy watches because I like them not to be an owner of a particular brand... They have similar look and feel, both oversized, "divers", and rugged looked for a summer watch...
HAve you actually tried either one on?
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HAve you actually tried either one on?
Yes sir! I mentioned earlier my stepdad has the AP black dial, i'm looking into the white dial. Haven't been able to try on the 187 but have tried on other pam subs that are the same size and i like the heft of them... I'm swaying more to the ap only because its easier to get a complete set...
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Yes sir! I mentioned earlier my stepdad has the AP black dial, i'm looking into the white dial. Haven't been able to try on the 187 but have tried on other pam subs that are the same size and i like the heft of them... I'm swaying more to the ap only because its easier to get a complete set...
I think if you really spend some time with them, you'll probably end up with the AP.
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Old 20 June 2018, 08:43 AM   #26
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I like Panerai as much as the next guy. But in this case, I would go with AP. One thing though, I would get the latest version with ceramic crown. The rubber crown is a slight turn off for me.
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Poll results are pretty compelling, given this is a neutral forum.
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Poll results are pretty compelling, given this is a neutral forum.
If this was 2012, I think it might be inversed. Panerai just destroyed their name since then, everybody fell off the bandwagon.
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Old 20 June 2018, 11:23 AM   #29
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I’m not afraid to go against the grain

Specifically the 187 isn’t exactly the diver model I’d go for, but there are plenty of others that I like more than the AP

The Luminor submersible 1305 is gorgeous IMO.
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