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eiregnol · 7 December 2019, 02:00 AM

That's the saying right? I'm having a tough time following that rule thought. There is watch, 116234 datejust with black dial and roulette wheel date that I have been look for for about a year, and this is the first I have seen pop up as a complete set and at a decent price.

So here is the rub, I messaged the seller a few times now asking question like, has the case been polished, are you the original owner, and can you send some more pictures of the side and corners of the case.

It has been a few days and I have not heard back. The listing was also ended early, and re-listed at $250 more, which is a little annoying as well.

So, buy the seller with non existent communication, or trust the 100% feedback rating? What would you do?

envuks · 7 December 2019, 02:01 AM

I’d find another one

Tangier11 · 7 December 2019, 02:02 AM

Is this ebay? Do you have a phone number? Sometimes email can be overlooked.

beshannon · 7 December 2019, 02:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eiregnol

So, buy the seller with non existent communication, or trust the 100% feedback rating? What would you do?

I would move on

eiregnol · 7 December 2019, 02:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tangier11

Is this ebay? Do you have a phone number? Sometimes email can be overlooked.

Yes ebay, I can send a message with my number, maybe that will help get a response.

Or did you mean a number for the seller? I don't believe ebay lists that information

Nikrnic · 7 December 2019, 02:06 AM

If your sure he got your message and it sounds like he did as he's been active with his ad and if it's been a few days then it's time to walk. Not a good seller.

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The Libertine · 7 December 2019, 02:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nikrnic

If your sure he got your message and it sounds like he did as he's been active with his ad and if it's been a few days then it's time to walk. Not a good seller.

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I agree. A non-responsive seller is not one I would do business with.

absoluteczech · 7 December 2019, 02:08 AM

It's possible your email got flagged as spam/junk so they didnt see it? Try sending from another address, and if you still dont hear then it's probably best you don't do business with them.

I messaged a user here once about a Rolex they were selling. Basic questions after they had originally responded the watch was still available. Never heard back, so I didn't peruse it. Why would I want to do business with someone that can't answer a few basic legitimate questions.

txjohn · 7 December 2019, 02:11 AM

Walk away

Case61 · 7 December 2019, 02:12 AM

On Ebay, 100% feedback doesn't mean a lot--the system is easily gamed.

I'd walk.

Chewbacca · 7 December 2019, 02:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eiregnol

That's the saying right? I'm having a tough time following that rule thought. There is watch, 116234 datejust with black dial and roulette wheel date that I have been look for for about a year, and this is the first I have seen pop up as a complete set and at a decent price.

So here is the rub, I messaged the seller a few times now asking question like, has the case been polished, are you the original owner, and can you send some more pictures of the side and corners of the case.

It has been a few days and I have not heard back. The listing was also ended early, and re-listed at $250 more, which is a little annoying as well.

So, buy the seller with non existent communication, or trust the 100% feedback rating? What would you do?

All this disqualifies the seller. No excuse not communicating via the Forum if you're listing on the Forum. If you don't monitor PMs, don't list here.

123Blueface · 7 December 2019, 02:13 AM

Walk away

eiregnol · 7 December 2019, 02:16 AM

I hate to pass, but I know you are all right. Thank you for the quick advice!

eiregnol · 7 December 2019, 02:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by absoluteczech

It's possible your email got flagged as spam/junk so they didnt see it? Try sending from another address, and if you still dont hear then it's probably best you don't do business with them.

I messaged a user here once about a Rolex they were selling. Basic questions after they had originally responded the watch was still available. Never heard back, so I didn't peruse it. Why would I want to do business with someone that can't answer a few basic legitimate questions.

I don't think it was flagged, but I'm sure it's possible. Is there a way to see that? You're right though, why would I want to do business with someone who can't answer a few questions.

Cryten · 7 December 2019, 02:24 AM

If I'm selling something, I reply to enquiries especially intelligent questions that indicate a serious buyer.

Someone who can't/wont answer questions is either pulling a scam or isn't worth your time. I'd suspect the former.

Hollie_Rollie · 7 December 2019, 02:29 AM

Always buy the seller. Communication is everything especially when doing thousand dollar transaction over the net

tudorbaja27 · 7 December 2019, 02:32 AM

Move on

joli160 · 7 December 2019, 02:50 AM

Walk

Acidstain · 7 December 2019, 03:09 AM

But then Again, this is ebay. If the price makes sense, i’d say buy it. Then take it to rsc or somewhere for authentication as soon as you receive. If anything is funny, return it. Ebay is very buyer biased. You can return a sack of potatoes and claim refund.

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1bad750 · 7 December 2019, 03:11 AM

Buy the seller doesnt mean someone on ebay with good feedback.

It means use a trusted watch seller that has done business especially on here before.

schoolboy · 7 December 2019, 03:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by envuks

I’d find another one

Same

Razorbackrolex · 7 December 2019, 03:23 AM

Yep move on

Jim Smyth · 7 December 2019, 03:26 AM

How long have they been on Ebay? How many sales do they have? What is there feedback ranking? Any negatives, if so read them all! Have they sold ANYTHING expensive? What else do they have for sale. Answering those questions will provide you with your answer.

I figure if there not responding they may be doing you a favor. ALWAYS buy the seller and if there not a good seller move on. You have trusted sellers here that are very capable to get you any model you want. They go to shows frequently and do shopping there for whats not in stock. But you have to have some patience.

Dont be that guy posting next in the Watchout section telling how you got ripped off!

JR16 · 7 December 2019, 03:30 AM

Buy the seller- there are no exceptions IMO unless you are willing to lose the $ you are spending . I use this rule for anything >$1k. Just an arbitrary # I am comfortable with

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Cubdrick · 7 December 2019, 03:34 AM

Not a hard watch to find. Contact DavidSW. If there's not already one listed on his site, one could be procured quickly. You may pay a few hundred more which isn't the best, but you sleep well.

Bybybmw · 7 December 2019, 03:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eiregnol

Yes ebay, I can send a message with my number, maybe that will help get a response.

Or did you mean a number for the seller? I don't believe ebay lists that information

Completely different products but my experience with ebay sellers is the same. 3 different products, sent messages requesting more info and no response. I moved on, not worth the chance.

Cesium137 · 7 December 2019, 03:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 123Blueface

Walk away

You asked for input, and you have received an, almost unanimous opinion.

mfm22 · 7 December 2019, 03:49 AM

no doubt , don't hesitate - forget about it!

Tools · 7 December 2019, 04:17 AM

How can a seller have an honest 100% if you can't even get an email response.

42itus · 7 December 2019, 05:09 AM

If the seller isn’t responding to communication when you are trying to purchase the item, can you experience to reply if there’s a problem?

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7 December 2019, 02:00 AM	#1
eiregnol "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2018 Location: Boston Watch: 168000 Posts: 57	Buy the seller right? What would you do? That's the saying right? I'm having a tough time following that rule thought. There is watch, 116234 datejust with black dial and roulette wheel date that I have been look for for about a year, and this is the first I have seen pop up as a complete set and at a decent price. So here is the rub, I messaged the seller a few times now asking question like, has the case been polished, are you the original owner, and can you send some more pictures of the side and corners of the case. It has been a few days and I have not heard back. The listing was also ended early, and re-listed at $250 more, which is a little annoying as well. So, buy the seller with non existent communication, or trust the 100% feedback rating? What would you do?

7 December 2019, 02:01 AM	#2
envuks 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: New England Posts: 3,685	I’d find another one __________________ Current watches: 116718ln, 116500 black dial, 40mm Breitling Chronomat MOP dial “A man with one watch always knows what time it is. A man with two watches is never sure.”

7 December 2019, 02:13 AM	#12
123Blueface "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: USA Watch: All Posts: 4,939	Walk away __________________ Rolex 228235 DD40 Olive, 126710BLRO, 116710BLNR, 116613LB, 116500LN White, 126610LN, 116500LN Black, 126610LV, 116610LV Breitling Navitimer 01, Cartier Santos Large

7 December 2019, 02:32 AM	#17
tudorbaja27 "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2017 Location: Miami, FL Watch: Tudor & Cartier Posts: 2,497	Move on __________________ "Chi ha paura muore ogni giorno, chi non ha paura muore una volta sola" - Paolo Borsellino

7 December 2019, 02:50 AM	#18
joli160 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: NL Watch: Yachtmaster Posts: 14,344	Walk __________________ Day Date 18238, Yachtmaster 16622, Deepsea 116660, Submariner 116619, SkyD 326935, DJ 178271, DJ 69158, Yachtmaster 169622, GMT 116713LN, GMT 126711.

7 December 2019, 02:02 AM	#3
Tangier11 Banned Join Date: Sep 2017 Real Name: Paul Location: Southern Virginia Watch: ROLEX Posts: 2,544	Is this ebay? Do you have a phone number? Sometimes email can be overlooked.

7 December 2019, 02:06 AM	#6
Nikrnic "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2017 Real Name: Louis Nick Ric Location: Michigan, USA Watch: Blnr, Expll, Subs, Posts: 10,158	If your sure he got your message and it sounds like he did as he's been active with his ad and if it's been a few days then it's time to walk. Not a good seller. Sent from my SM-G970U using Tapatalk

7 December 2019, 02:08 AM	#8
absoluteczech "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2019 Location: SoCal Posts: 118	It's possible your email got flagged as spam/junk so they didnt see it? Try sending from another address, and if you still dont hear then it's probably best you don't do business with them. I messaged a user here once about a Rolex they were selling. Basic questions after they had originally responded the watch was still available. Never heard back, so I didn't peruse it. Why would I want to do business with someone that can't answer a few basic legitimate questions.

7 December 2019, 02:11 AM	#9
txjohn "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: texas Posts: 41	Walk away

7 December 2019, 02:12 AM	#10
Case61 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: Tucson, Az Posts: 1,131	On Ebay, 100% feedback doesn't mean a lot--the system is easily gamed. I'd walk.

7 December 2019, 02:16 AM	#13
eiregnol "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2018 Location: Boston Watch: 168000 Posts: 57	I hate to pass, but I know you are all right. Thank you for the quick advice!

7 December 2019, 02:24 AM	#15
Cryten "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: Terrafirma Posts: 2,655	If I'm selling something, I reply to enquiries especially intelligent questions that indicate a serious buyer. Someone who can't/wont answer questions is either pulling a scam or isn't worth your time. I'd suspect the former.

7 December 2019, 02:29 AM	#16
Hollie_Rollie 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Sep 2018 Location: U.S.A. Watch: SD43 Posts: 3,096	Always buy the seller. Communication is everything especially when doing thousand dollar transaction over the net

7 December 2019, 03:09 AM	#19
Acidstain "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2019 Location: USA Posts: 97	Buy the seller right? What would you do? But then Again, this is ebay. If the price makes sense, i’d say buy it. Then take it to rsc or somewhere for authentication as soon as you receive. If anything is funny, return it. Ebay is very buyer biased. You can return a sack of potatoes and claim refund. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

7 December 2019, 03:11 AM	#20
1bad750 "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: NewYork Posts: 634	Buy the seller doesnt mean someone on ebay with good feedback. It means use a trusted watch seller that has done business especially on here before. __________________ Rolex 116233 TT Datejust Super Jubilee Rolex 18038 Yg DD President Whiteface,roman Rolex 69173 TT Datejust Factory red Vignette diamond Rolex 118238 Yg DD White roman. Rolex 16613 2 Tone Bluesey

7 December 2019, 03:23 AM	#22
Razorbackrolex "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2016 Location: Arkansas Posts: 135	Yep move on

7 December 2019, 03:26 AM	#23
Jim Smyth Banned Join Date: Nov 2013 Real Name: Jim Smyth Location: Florida Watch: DD Posts: 1,842	How long have they been on Ebay? How many sales do they have? What is there feedback ranking? Any negatives, if so read them all! Have they sold ANYTHING expensive? What else do they have for sale. Answering those questions will provide you with your answer. I figure if there not responding they may be doing you a favor. ALWAYS buy the seller and if there not a good seller move on. You have trusted sellers here that are very capable to get you any model you want. They go to shows frequently and do shopping there for whats not in stock. But you have to have some patience. Dont be that guy posting next in the Watchout section telling how you got ripped off!

7 December 2019, 03:30 AM	#24
JR16 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: USA Posts: 6,186	Buy the seller- there are no exceptions IMO unless you are willing to lose the $ you are spending . I use this rule for anything >$1k. Just an arbitrary # I am comfortable with Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro

7 December 2019, 03:34 AM	#25
Cubdrick "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2017 Location: La Cañada, CA Watch: 16710 Posts: 144	Not a hard watch to find. Contact DavidSW. If there's not already one listed on his site, one could be procured quickly. You may pay a few hundred more which isn't the best, but you sleep well.

7 December 2019, 03:49 AM	#28
mfm22 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2017 Real Name: Mike Location: NY Watch: Explorer 1 Posts: 488	no doubt , don't hesitate - forget about it!

7 December 2019, 04:17 AM	#29
Tools TRF Moderator & 2024 DATE-JUST41 Patron Join Date: May 2007 Real Name: Larry Location: Mojave Desert Watch: GMT's Posts: 43,039	How can a seller have an honest 100% if you can't even get an email response. __________________ (Chill ... It's just a watch Forum.....) NAWCC Member

7 December 2019, 05:09 AM	#30
42itus "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2018 Real Name: Tom Location: Honolulu Watch: 116519LN Posts: 3,828	If the seller isn’t responding to communication when you are trying to purchase the item, can you experience to reply if there’s a problem? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

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