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TswaneNguni · 20 May 2019, 01:30 AM

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Originally Posted by grimps

The GMT trilogy was his idea , he’d have still got me the Pepsi but I wouldn’t have been first .
The second was my idea but you have to keep in mind I’ve bought a lot of watches from him for the last ten years so I doubt they’d do it for everybody

sunnygps · 20 May 2019, 01:53 AM

With the AD I have bought most of my Rolex watches, he has never suggested bundling. However, earlier this year I was changing jobs and it was on the other side of town.

I thought I will go visit the new AD and see if there was potential to start a new relationship. I asked about SubC LV while looking at the DJ41 and few PM watches. I was immediately informed that if I were to buy one of the PM watches, they can get me the LV as well.

I thanked them and have not gone back since then. My previous AD in the mean while called and offered the SubC that I wanted within 2 or 3 weeks of letting him know I was interested in one. What my AD has not been able to get me is the LV or the BLRO. It’s been 6 months and waiting... I think the AD probably gets one or two of these watches a year and I am sure there are folks higher in the priority than I am. Although, I imagine I am on the top of their list for everything...

TswaneNguni · 20 May 2019, 01:58 AM

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Originally Posted by sunnygps

With the AD I have bought most of my Rolex watches, he has never suggested bundling. However, earlier this year I was changing jobs and it was on the other side of town.

I thought I will go visit the new AD and see if there was potential to start a new relationship. I asked about SubC LV while looking at the DJ41 and few PM watches. I was immediately informed that if I were to buy one of the PM watches, they can get me the LV as well.

I thanked them and have not gone back since then. My previous AD in the mean while called and offered the SubC that I wanted within 2 or 3 weeks of letting him know I was interested in one. What my AD has not been able to get me is the LV or the BLRO. It’s been 6 months and waiting... I think the AD probably gets one or two of these watches a year and I am sure there are folks higher in the priority than I am. Although, I imagine I am on the top of their list for everything...

Thanks.One AD suggested the PM package deal ,your usual AD not.

Moggo · 20 May 2019, 02:12 AM

Are you reporting back to Rolex?!

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grimps · 20 May 2019, 02:14 AM

It’s a good deal as long as you want the watches offered .
Buying several Datejusts to get your hands on the Daytona is probably not a good deal though

TswaneNguni · 20 May 2019, 02:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Moggo

Are you reporting back to Rolex?!

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You think they care ?

TswaneNguni · 20 May 2019, 02:40 AM

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Originally Posted by grimps

It’s a good deal as long as you want the watches offered .
Buying several Datejusts to get your hands on the Daytona is probably not a good deal though

Seriously doubt that DJs will privilege a Daytona anywhere in the world .
Its clear that from what have been reported here, that PM /Jewellery is the anchor to the package deal.Whether suggested by the AD or the client.

andyvn579 · 20 May 2019, 03:36 AM

Not sure if saleman told me the truth but yes, when i asked about Daytona C, he said they have it in the back but i need to buy a President also

TswaneNguni · 20 May 2019, 03:47 AM

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Originally Posted by andyvn579

Not sure if saleman told me the truth but yes, when i asked about Daytona C, he said they have it in the back but i need to buy a President also

Thanks.PM in the form of a DD for the Daytona privilege .

TswaneNguni · 20 May 2019, 03:51 AM

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Originally Posted by andyvn579

Not sure if saleman told me the truth but yes, when i asked about Daytona C, he said they have it in the back but i need to buy a President also

Question for those in the know,with regards to the law in the States.If this salesman admits that the Daytona is available for sale, can Andy not demand that this product be sold to him ?

grimps · 20 May 2019, 04:04 AM

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Originally Posted by TswaneNguni

Question for those in the know,with regards to the law in the States.If this salesman admits that the Daytona is available for sale, can Andy not demand that this product be sold to him ?

I would guess that as Long as it’s not displayed then they’re not breaking any law

phow · 20 May 2019, 04:11 AM

Wife wanted a new Datejust and my AD happened to have the exact model she wanted on hand. So I used that opportunity to negotiate my SD43 purchase that I had been considering for awhile. Got both watches at a slight discount and had the SD43 in hand a little over a week after the sale since the AD didn’t have it on hand.

So I guess you can consider that a “bundle” purchase though the only thing I think I achieved was a slight discount and maybe getting the SD a little quicker.

Oh and I bought a Tudor there a week prior which may helped as well... not sure.

TswaneNguni · 20 May 2019, 04:34 AM

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Originally Posted by phow

Wife wanted a new Datejust and my AD happened to have the exact model she wanted on hand. So I used that opportunity to negotiate my SD43 purchase that I had been considering for awhile. Got both watches at a slight discount and had the SD43 in hand a little over a week after the sale since the AD didn’t have it on hand.

So I guess you can consider that a “bundle” purchase though the only thing I think I achieved was a slight discount and maybe getting the SD a little quicker.

Oh and I bought a Tudor there a week prior which may helped as well... not sure.

I would say that was well done

tabs2000 · 20 May 2019, 04:56 AM

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Originally Posted by SlideRacker

Just curious, is this FH Rubel?

No it was actually a Ben Bridge in the Tyler mall. My wife was on a quest to find me an explorer 2 with a black face in a hurry last year and tried everywhere in orange county with out success. This SA went to bat for her and after a month she called and had it for her. But that is probably a way easier watch to get. The SA said she had it shipped from another store for her.

FH Rubel has always been great to me. David in Laguna Beach has always been straight up and pulled some rabbits out of his hat for me. But nothing recently that was a few years ago.

phow · 20 May 2019, 05:08 AM

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Originally Posted by TswaneNguni

I would say that was well done

Thanks! I will say that it does seem to help a bit to take something off the AD’s hands they have in normal inventory when requesting something that they don’t have. But I would never recommend this unless what they have is something you actually really want. It just happened to work out that way in this case.

RyanJ · 20 May 2019, 06:01 AM

Don't over think it. Walk in and tell the AD that you have 100k to spend right now. Watch how quickly all those "hard to get" watches appear out of no where..

SlideRacker · 20 May 2019, 06:57 AM

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Originally Posted by tabs2000

No it was actually a Ben Bridge in the Tyler mall. My wife was on a quest to find me an explorer 2 with a black face in a hurry last year and tried everywhere in orange county with out success. This SA went to bat for her and after a month she called and had it for her. But that is probably a way easier watch to get. The SA said she had it shipped from another store for her.

FH Rubel has always been great to me. David in Laguna Beach has always been straight up and pulled some rabbits out of his hat for me. But nothing recently that was a few years ago.

Years ago it was a different ballgame. Rubel offered me a BLNR with no sales tax. I still have never bought anything from them as their policies are way too onerous. They want you to have a prior purchase history just to be put on a list but won’t give any more details. I don’t play that game. I ran into one guy who they were presenting a SubLv as a reward. Turns out he bought a bunch of high markup jewelry before the Lv. When my wife and I are at the MV mall sometimes I go in there just to bust their chops. I know they will never sell me a SS and I will never buy jewelry or watches from them.

whuang29 · 20 May 2019, 09:33 AM

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Originally Posted by andyvn579

Not sure if saleman told me the truth but yes, when i asked about Daytona C, he said they have it in the back but i need to buy a President also

I read a post from another person on the forum about how he obtained Daydate and Root Beer Two Tone for a Daytona C White.

whuang29 · 20 May 2019, 09:38 AM

I'm in the market to buy two Day Dates in gold. Going to try to bundle for a SS watch, most likely a Daytona C.I will only do it with a discount because I can get it VAT free in Europe. Will see how it goes

Robbyman · 20 May 2019, 12:44 PM

In the U.K. I want to to buy two PM Daytona’s a yellow gold and an Everose.

I asked a couple of dealers to add a Black dial SS Daytona and they said no chance. Even the PM Daytona’s are on a wait list.

waynorth · 20 May 2019, 12:50 PM

Only a tool pays over MSRP for a tool watch.

ArtNouveau · 20 May 2019, 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by grimps

I would guess that as Long as it’s not displayed then they’re not breaking any law

There is no “law” in the US about how a merchant sells its goods.

TswaneNguni · 20 May 2019, 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Robbyman

In the U.K. I want to to buy two PM Daytona’s a yellow gold and an Everose.

I asked a couple of dealers to add a Black dial SS Daytona and they said no chance. Even the PM Daytona’s are on a wait list.

OK,so Daytona in PM doesnt work for a package deal in the UK.Must be a DD or RG GMT etc I suppose.

TswaneNguni · 20 May 2019, 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by ArtNouveau

There is no “law” in the US about how a merchant sells its goods.

Interesting.So the sales person admits the Daytona is at the back and available,but have the power to say no the the customer wanting to buy it .Must buy a DD and then they will sell the Daytona to him .

Monty22 · 20 May 2019, 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by timepieceluvr

I wanted an anniversary dial 116718 GMT and was able to leverage that purchase (with a discount) to acquire a 126710 GMT as well. I posted about it and the general consensus was mostly negative. Thankfully I have never been one to follow the whims of others and I’m pretty satisfied with the results.

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Like a previous thread about bundling, I do not understand the negativity if the buyer wanted the PM watch. This seems to me a case of hating the game, but yelling at the players and the plays

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andyvn579 · 20 May 2019, 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by grimps

I would guess that as Long as it’s not displayed then they’re not breaking any law

I think so. I mean... Im not too sure about the law but since i just bought another watch, therefore, i'm so not ready financially to do the bundle so i just walked away

knightofgold · 20 May 2019, 07:09 PM

It's actually the same for other prestigious luxury brands. Say for Hermes, you also need to buy other stuff like clothes, jackets, shoes for a specific amount then with agreement of their manager, staff can then get one most-sought handbag to you. The crazy thing is that you don't even know what color you are going to get....guys it is happening

WatchLurv · 20 May 2019, 07:51 PM

It's not against the Rolex rules to bundle. Nowhere do they recommend AGAINST it. In fact they let the ADs deal with it and meet the numbers they want.

ADs will suggest it if they feel like you want something bad enough. Better for you to engage in that line of inquiry so you can clearly specify what you want and perhaps what you want to pay for.

TswaneNguni · 20 May 2019, 09:10 PM

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Originally Posted by knightofgold

It's actually the same for other prestigious luxury brands. Say for Hermes, you also need to buy other stuff like clothes, jackets, shoes for a specific amount then with agreement of their manager, staff can then get one most-sought handbag to you. The crazy thing is that you don't even know what color you are going to get....guys it is happening

So,next is you may get a Daytona as fringe benefit but the dial colour is a surprise ..

TswaneNguni · 21 May 2019, 02:43 AM

Moved to the open section which means this thread is now deceased ..

Thank you for everyone's input .It gives a clear picture of the bundling /package deal practices going on.
It provided the answers I asked and gave many insight into this "business model " .

20 May 2019, 01:53 AM	#32
sunnygps 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: Texas Posts: 1,135	With the AD I have bought most of my Rolex watches, he has never suggested bundling. However, earlier this year I was changing jobs and it was on the other side of town. I thought I will go visit the new AD and see if there was potential to start a new relationship. I asked about SubC LV while looking at the DJ41 and few PM watches. I was immediately informed that if I were to buy one of the PM watches, they can get me the LV as well. I thanked them and have not gone back since then. My previous AD in the mean while called and offered the SubC that I wanted within 2 or 3 weeks of letting him know I was interested in one. What my AD has not been able to get me is the LV or the BLRO. It’s been 6 months and waiting... I think the AD probably gets one or two of these watches a year and I am sure there are folks higher in the priority than I am. Although, I imagine I am on the top of their list for everything...

20 May 2019, 02:12 AM	#34
Moggo "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Wales Watch: 16610, SD4K, Exp 1 Posts: 1,098	Are you reporting back to Rolex?! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

20 May 2019, 02:14 AM	#35
grimps "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2015 Location: England Posts: 1,419	It’s a good deal as long as you want the watches offered . Buying several Datejusts to get your hands on the Daytona is probably not a good deal though

20 May 2019, 03:36 AM	#38
andyvn579 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2018 Location: California Posts: 108	Not sure if saleman told me the truth but yes, when i asked about Daytona C, he said they have it in the back but i need to buy a President also

20 May 2019, 04:11 AM	#42
phow "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2019 Location: West LA Posts: 122	Wife wanted a new Datejust and my AD happened to have the exact model she wanted on hand. So I used that opportunity to negotiate my SD43 purchase that I had been considering for awhile. Got both watches at a slight discount and had the SD43 in hand a little over a week after the sale since the AD didn’t have it on hand. So I guess you can consider that a “bundle” purchase though the only thing I think I achieved was a slight discount and maybe getting the SD a little quicker. Oh and I bought a Tudor there a week prior which may helped as well... not sure.

20 May 2019, 06:01 AM	#46
RyanJ "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2019 Location: Atlantis Posts: 1,432	Don't over think it. Walk in and tell the AD that you have 100k to spend right now. Watch how quickly all those "hard to get" watches appear out of no where..

20 May 2019, 09:38 AM	#49
whuang29 "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2018 Location: Yangon Posts: 183	I'm in the market to buy two Day Dates in gold. Going to try to bundle for a SS watch, most likely a Daytona C.I will only do it with a discount because I can get it VAT free in Europe. Will see how it goes

20 May 2019, 12:44 PM	#50
Robbyman "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: Blighty (England) Watch: Daytona/Pepsi/Sub Posts: 1,517	In the U.K. I want to to buy two PM Daytona’s a yellow gold and an Everose. I asked a couple of dealers to add a Black dial SS Daytona and they said no chance. Even the PM Daytona’s are on a wait list.

20 May 2019, 12:50 PM	#51
waynorth "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2016 Real Name: Keith Location: Alaska Posts: 221	Only a tool pays over MSRP for a tool watch.

20 May 2019, 07:09 PM	#57
knightofgold "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2019 Location: Toronto Watch: 26420IO Posts: 72	It's actually the same for other prestigious luxury brands. Say for Hermes, you also need to buy other stuff like clothes, jackets, shoes for a specific amount then with agreement of their manager, staff can then get one most-sought handbag to you. The crazy thing is that you don't even know what color you are going to get....guys it is happening

20 May 2019, 07:51 PM	#58
WatchLurv Banned Join Date: Jul 2018 Location: Moon Watch: Swiss Posts: 2,270	It's not against the Rolex rules to bundle. Nowhere do they recommend AGAINST it. In fact they let the ADs deal with it and meet the numbers they want. ADs will suggest it if they feel like you want something bad enough. Better for you to engage in that line of inquiry so you can clearly specify what you want and perhaps what you want to pay for.

21 May 2019, 02:43 AM	#60
TswaneNguni "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Real Name: Chris Location: . Watch: Daytonas/Subs/GMTs Posts: 12,608	Moved to the open section which means this thread is now deceased .. Thank you for everyone's input .It gives a clear picture of the bundling /package deal practices going on. It provided the answers I asked and gave many insight into this "business model " .

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