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Old 6 January 2022, 10:47 AM   #31
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Man my SA won't even quote me a timeframe for any pieces I request. It's always "no promises".

Can't wait to the day when SAs have watches to sell in display and actually have to work to make a sale. Waiting for the moment I can tell them that they need to build a relationship with me while I shop around brands.
That day will be when your watch looses value the moment you walk out of their shop - just like a new car you feel you've done well to get a $5K discount. If you're a true watch lover - that won't be a problem at all.
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Old 6 January 2022, 10:50 AM   #32
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Man my SA won't even quote me a timeframe for any pieces I request. It's always "no promises".

Can't wait to the day when SAs have watches to sell in display and actually have to work to make a sale. Waiting for the moment I can tell them that they need to build a relationship with me while I shop around brands.

You live in a large tech centric city, itís going to be a while before a change comes. Too many young guys and gals with money to spend. I would try to shop with ADs outside of the bay.

Iím with you though, itís a strange thing people begging to spend 10k+ feeling like you have to build a relationship before someone will take your money.

Iíve had 0 success with local ADs, and found that the Rolex boutique i work with has been awesome. They have nothing to sell outside of Rolex so there are no games. Iíve been able to get what i want essentially immediately, but i feel like even if i didnít know someone i could get a realistic timeline on pieces from a boutique. They still have their top spenders but those buyers donít need 20 submariners, or DJs. So i feel like there are realistic opportunities for normal buyers.

Unlike the normal ADs that sell jewelry, their highest margin item. Those ADs are going to feed the hands that feed them. Those are going to be folks buying jewelry and diamonds.
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Old 6 January 2022, 10:50 AM   #33
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I've seen people mention that they have 'ordered' a watch. It shows up a couple months later. Posts on this forum, multiple Youtube videos - and those videos show people trying on scores of different models.

Is this even possible? I'm starting to get disillusioned after 5 years of "stopping by" ADs. The sales reps will mumble "might take 6 months to get that in, we'll let you know...." By now I know that must be standard training which really means "Don't bother showing up without a briefcase full of cash...."

Anyway, those of you who have placed an order, is there a deposit taken or is it payment in full? Thanks.
It was a ladies watch that I was able to special order in Spring / Early Summer 2021. I called my AD and placed the order. A few months later, when it arrived, I gave my credit card info. Next day watch was shipped.
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Old 6 January 2022, 01:06 PM   #34
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I've seen people mention that they have 'ordered' a watch. It shows up a couple months later. Posts on this forum, multiple Youtube videos - and those videos show people trying on scores of different models.

Is this even possible? I'm starting to get disillusioned after 5 years of "stopping by" ADs. The sales reps will mumble "might take 6 months to get that in, we'll let you know...." By now I know that must be standard training which really means "Don't bother showing up without a briefcase full of cash...."

Anyway, those of you who have placed an order, is there a deposit taken or is it payment in full? Thanks.
here is my journey - long story short - it really helped and changed when I started inquiring about PM Rolex this year and never mentioned SS hot models. all of a sudden they appeared without asking for it.

ordered DD40 olive dial in RG in feb 2021, received Dec. 2021. been stopping by and chatting with SA all year once a month. 2 weeks prior got offered SS skydweller white dial and bought it but came out of nowhere and never ordered it. no prior purchase history with this AD. I think I just got lucky and hit it off with AD/ saleslady. now waiting on PP 6119 and maybe a RG daytona on bracelet or oysterflex.

another example, just bought cartier skeleton and was promised batman or pepsi this year. we shall see. this cartier is from another AD with no purchase history.

3rd AD got an explorer 2 polar dial (came out of vault after inquiring about PM rolex) and two tone skydweller (just prio to xmas) last year. no other purchases but been checking in with this local AD for years.

bad story 4th AD (build relationship for years): bought RG grand seiko & moon watch omega in 2018 and never got anything else I wanted from this AD - they been stringing me along and wanting me to buy jewelry .

5th AD westime in Vegas: bought ROO AP and never delivered on their promise for a 15500 just BS all along - had to contact corporate AP to make it right.
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Old 6 January 2022, 02:02 PM   #35
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Bought a DJ36 in September of 2019, “ordered” an EXP II at that time and it arrived that November. Bought two wedding rings and a pre-owned Panerai during 2021. Last month I “ordered” an Explorer 36, SA said 2-6 months. No deposits. I’ll let you know.
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Old 6 January 2022, 02:07 PM   #36
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Old 6 January 2022, 07:38 PM   #37
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I've seen people mention that they have 'ordered' a watch. It shows up a couple months later. Posts on this forum, multiple Youtube videos - and those videos show people trying on scores of different models.

Is this even possible? I'm starting to get disillusioned after 5 years of "stopping by" ADs. The sales reps will mumble "might take 6 months to get that in, we'll let you know...." By now I know that must be standard training which really means "Don't bother showing up without a briefcase full of cash...."

Anyway, those of you who have placed an order, is there a deposit taken or is it payment in full? Thanks.
I look at the catelogue and say I will have that one.
If you canít get it too me within two weeks donít bother with the order.
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Old 6 January 2022, 08:01 PM   #38
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The AD doesn’t seem like the people to buy watches from any more . They mainly just supply grey dealers right?

Seems no shortage of watches with grey dealers.

I hope I live long enough to see a time when Rolex and it’s Authorised Dealers have to once again try to sell their watches to people who will wear them .
sorry but thats BS - they do not supply grey dealers at least in the UK

the grey market in the UK is fuelled by people who buy watches and then flip them
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Old 6 January 2022, 08:04 PM   #39
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No evidence for this - just need to build the relationship and you'll get the watches in increasing desirability. DJ first.......

thanks

so very true - poster just another disgruntled punter who expects to walk in off the street and buy a Daytona at RRP, lol
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Old 6 January 2022, 08:06 PM   #40
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I look at the catelogue and say I will have that one.
If you can’t get it too me within two weeks don’t bother with the order.
so how many Rolex models has that approach given you?

i will tell you - NONE
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Old 6 January 2022, 08:47 PM   #41
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Only the biggest VIP can place order for watches they want; for the rest, the least desirable watches can be ordered.
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Old 6 January 2022, 09:59 PM   #42
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Walked into AD in 2019 with the intention of ordering a watch that we had spoken on the phone about for the past 2 months. Walked out of the AD with 3 watches (2 from the back room) and one from display.

Original watch was ordered.
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Old 6 January 2022, 10:05 PM   #43
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thanks

so very true - poster just another disgruntled punter who expects to walk in off the street and buy a Daytona at RRP, lol
Actually no. I donít really like the Daytona. Only modern rolex Iíve ever bought I walked in off the street and bought the watch I liked most at RRP
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Old 6 January 2022, 10:07 PM   #44
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But remind me again could I walk in off the street and buy a Daytona at RRP?
No?

So if I wanted one I would have to go to a grey dealer and buy a new one at a much higher price?

A price higher than Rolex themselves value their own product at ?
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Old 10 January 2022, 02:21 AM   #45
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Have you bought anything from them during those five years?
Yes, several diamond jewelry pieces and a used DJ 36
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Old 10 January 2022, 02:57 AM   #46
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I placed an order for my OP34 in July 2020, paid 1000 Eur deposit. Was told 6 months wait, but it arrived in August. Last Monday I went to see my AD again and placed and order for a DJ36, again paid 1000 deposit. Was told it will probably arrive in June, we'll see.
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Old 10 January 2022, 03:04 AM   #47
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Old 10 January 2022, 03:25 AM   #48
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I look at the catelogue and say I will have that one.
If you canít get it too me within two weeks donít bother with the order.

I wouldnít bother wasting the time to drive there . They wonít be bothering with your order.
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Old 10 January 2022, 10:59 PM   #49
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Old 11 January 2022, 11:34 AM   #50
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I bought a Tudor GMT and then expressed interest in the Tudor Chrono where they made me pay for the watch up front. It was around 4-5 months and still no watch. The SA said what other watch would you be interested in since they don’t have an ETA when the chrono would arrive. I told her I’m interested in a submariner and she said they will call me when either one arrives.

A few weeks later I cancelled my Tudor Chrono order and then a few months later got a call they had a submariner in and asked if I was still interested. I said I was still interested and she asked if the watch was for me, which I reiterated it was for me and only me. The SA said I needed to schedule a time when I’d arrive and I picked it up the next day.

When she brought the watch out, she asked if I was surprised and I said yes since other customers came into the store and asked about the “display” models and she told them they don’t have any watches available for them and they had no availability. It is hit or miss with the ADs, but guess I lucked out. The odd thing is they made me pay in full for the Tudor, but no deposit for the Rolex.
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