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hflee55 · 11 July 2009, 01:38 PM

awesome pics! thanks for sharing.

Trurolexer · 11 July 2009, 01:58 PM

Great couple!!! I love 'em BOTH!!! Nice shots too...

rotan · 11 July 2009, 02:01 PM

312 is beautiful....

GBJIV · 11 July 2009, 02:46 PM

Very nice Tui.... Love it...

Is the OEM strap on the 312 the same as 217?

TswaneNguni · 11 July 2009, 03:02 PM

Thanks Tui !! Very nice pics !! Love my 104 but also love the case height and open, inviting dial of the 312

Is the crystal diameter on the 312 larger ?? Looks like it.

tuisquash · 11 July 2009, 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by TswaneNguni

Thanks Tui !! Very nice pics !! Love my 104 but also love the case height and open, inviting dial of the 312

Is the crystal diameter on the 312 larger ?? Looks like it.

yes the crystal is larger and because of the shape on diagonal you can see better the dial, as you can see on pics #9 and 16.

tuisquash · 11 July 2009, 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by GBJIV

Very nice Tui.... Love it...

Is the OEM strap on the 312 the same as 217?

this is the best oem strap (of my watches), i never saw the 217 strap.
the buckle is brushed and i like it too.

c2tcardin · 11 July 2009, 10:20 PM

Great comparison shots. Is the 104 a 44mm case? The 312 looks so much larger compared to it that I wouldn't be surprised to hear the 104 is a 40mm case.

tuisquash · 11 July 2009, 10:28 PM

the dial of 312 is larger, so the case looks bigger.
when i hold both on my hands the 312 looks much bigger.

TswaneNguni · 11 July 2009, 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by c2tcardin

Great comparison shots. Is the 104 a 44mm case? The 312 looks so much larger compared to it that I wouldn't be surprised to hear the 104 is a 40mm case.

Surprising, the 104 and 111 and 112 and 176 et al,are all 44mm,as advertised.

Nica64 · 12 July 2009, 01:52 AM

Great pictures Tui, thanks for sharing!

I don't have a 312 yet

but will very soon.... the 312 is a beautiful watch the case look fantastic and I love the larger dial, just waiting for my AD to call, but the 104 is a piece of beauty it was my first Pam and will always have a place in my collection, is the one that started my passion for Panerai watches!

JF23 · 12 July 2009, 03:28 AM

Thanks Tui, fantastic comparo!!!

Zed · 12 July 2009, 03:28 AM

Great pix Tui.. nice to see them compared.... pretty diffrent animals..

hoser · 21 July 2009, 10:33 AM

From the pix, there are subtle differences, but in person, is there a big difference in look? For twice the money, is the 1950's case and movement "worth" the money?

R1@160@alltimes · 21 July 2009, 10:37 AM

Beautiful pieces

hoser · 21 July 2009, 10:40 AM

Seems like there would be a bigger, more noticeable difference in case design. But at a glance, it's hard to tell the difference. Can anyone who's seen both in person tell me different?

TswaneNguni · 21 July 2009, 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by hoser

Seems like there would be a bigger, more noticeable difference in case design. But at a glance, it's hard to tell the difference. Can anyone who's seen both in person tell me different?

The differences are obvious.The new 312 case is very nice.I like the case height and the dial configuration,but the 312 case is still not a 127 case.Thats stil one of the nicest case designs from PAM.

Love the 127 !!

tuisquash · 21 July 2009, 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by hoser

Seems like there would be a bigger, more noticeable difference in case design. But at a glance, it's hard to tell the difference. Can anyone who's seen both in person tell me different?

the 104 is a luminor case 312 1950 case
312 thicker
104 polished 312 brushed
the crown is diferent
the 312 crystal is slightly domed
the crown protector is a little diferent, look at the pics
but most of the people won't notice the diference, but i love the panerai and it's a huge diference to me, if you still looking the panerais you will see that, just wait... it always happen.

11 July 2009, 02:01 PM	#4
rotan "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2009 Real Name: Leong Location: Singapore Watch: AP 15202ST Posts: 210	312 is beautiful.... __________________ Rolex Batman 116710BLNR Audemars Piguet 15202ST H series

11 July 2009, 02:46 PM	#5
GBJIV "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Real Name: Jackson Location: So. California Posts: 2,893	Very nice Tui.... Love it... Is the OEM strap on the 312 the same as 217? __________________ Jackson

11 July 2009, 10:28 PM	#10
tuisquash "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Real Name: tui Location: são paulo-brasil Watch: panerai rolex Posts: 772	the dial of 312 is larger, so the case looks bigger. when i hold both on my hands the 312 looks much bigger. __________________ panerai and rolex

12 July 2009, 01:52 AM	#12
Nica64 "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: USA Posts: 2,596	Great pictures Tui, thanks for sharing! I don't have a 312 yet but will very soon.... the 312 is a beautiful watch the case look fantastic and I love the larger dial, just waiting for my AD to call, but the 104 is a piece of beauty it was my first Pam and will always have a place in my collection, is the one that started my passion for Panerai watches! __________________ ______________________________ You can't turn back the clock. But you can wind it up again.

21 July 2009, 10:33 AM	#15
hoser Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: CA Posts: 30	Not a HUGE difference? From the pix, there are subtle differences, but in person, is there a big difference in look? For twice the money, is the 1950's case and movement "worth" the money?

11 July 2009, 01:38 PM	#2
hflee55 "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Real Name: Andy Location: Kuala Lumpur, MY Watch: Me Watching You!! Posts: 3,260	awesome pics! thanks for sharing.

11 July 2009, 01:58 PM	#3
Trurolexer Banned Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: USA Watch: 5513MaxiI+PreComex Posts: 18,421	Great couple!!! I love 'em BOTH!!! Nice shots too...

11 July 2009, 03:02 PM	#6
TswaneNguni "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Real Name: Chris Location: . Watch: Daytonas/Subs/GMTs Posts: 12,608	Thanks Tui !! Very nice pics !! Love my 104 but also love the case height and open, inviting dial of the 312 Is the crystal diameter on the 312 larger ?? Looks like it.

11 July 2009, 10:20 PM	#9
c2tcardin "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Real Name: Jeff Location: NH Watch: Pam 312 & DJ II Posts: 312	Great comparison shots. Is the 104 a 44mm case? The 312 looks so much larger compared to it that I wouldn't be surprised to hear the 104 is a 40mm case. __________________ Cheers, Jeff ------------------------------------------------------ PAM 312, DJ II

12 July 2009, 03:28 AM	#13
JF23 "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: S Florida Posts: 1,899	Thanks Tui, fantastic comparo!!!

12 July 2009, 03:28 AM	#14
Zed Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: UK Watch: Panerai 186 & 233 Posts: 489	Great pix Tui.. nice to see them compared.... pretty diffrent animals..

21 July 2009, 10:37 AM	#16
R1@160@alltimes "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: USA Watch: ♛ Posts: 4,408	Beautiful pieces __________________

21 July 2009, 10:40 AM	#17
hoser Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: CA Posts: 30	Seems like there would be a bigger, more noticeable difference in case design. But at a glance, it's hard to tell the difference. Can anyone who's seen both in person tell me different?

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