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ptimson · 22 March 2018, 12:56 AM

I am at a crossroads...

Do I task myself with tracking down an original 5002, or go with the newer 500912 or 501001? I know I want the number 9 on the face but that is all I have been able to commit to.

What would you choose??

Mercury2wo · 22 March 2018, 03:04 PM

Pics of the watches proposed will help with opinions and discussions. Until then, let me google the reference numbers and come back

jpwv · 23 March 2018, 05:47 AM

I've been having the same debate. I have landed on the 5002 if a big pilot at all. Im starting to lean toward saving longer term for a Patek since I already have a sport watch, Submariner, that I love.

Once you decide on the 5002 you will then have to decide on the 5002 slow beat or the 5002 Transitional model (5002 with the 5004 movement). Decisions...decisions!

Slider817 · 23 March 2018, 08:24 AM

I’d go for the least expensive one. I try not to make myself crazy about getting the most “collectable” variants, if it’s basically the same watch, which it is for the standard big pilot, I just get the cheapest one.

ptimson · 27 March 2018, 05:57 AM

To make the comparison more clear:

iwc3.jpg

opawlows · 27 March 2018, 06:02 AM

I prefer the numerals on the 5002 dial myself.

ptimson · 27 March 2018, 06:06 AM

Pros for the 5002 in my book:
Numerals
White date wheel
Its the original BP
Brown buffalo strap

Pros for 500912
Arguably better movement
Ability to purchase new
Cleaner power reserve dial

jpwv · 27 March 2018, 08:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ptimson

Pros for the 5002 in my book:
Numerals
White date wheel
Its the original BP
Brown buffalo strap

Pros for 500912
Arguably better movement
Ability to purchase new
Cleaner power reserve dial

I would add the seconds hand of the 5002 as a pro. The long, counter weighted hand is beautiful. I also like the 5002 power reserve better.

mobster600 · 27 March 2018, 09:13 AM

IWC just released the 501001, it has a 4htz mvmt. The length of the seconds hand is long and you can more easily see the seconds tick with the 3htz mvmts. With a 4htz, its smooth as silk going around. I think this was a much needed upgrade. So put the 501001 in the camp with the 5009.

Pricing, the 5002 is around the same price as a mint cond 5009-501001. It really depends on what your after. I own a 5009 and I love it. Its really two different buyers when it comes down to it.

5002- Vintage feel, pilot to the bone
5009-501001- Modern, pilot with a little dressy touch

jezza17 · 31 March 2018, 11:07 PM

500912 any day.

ptimson · 14 April 2018, 03:36 AM

The 500912 was the winner!

Pics forthcoming.....

pdnb · 14 April 2018, 12:10 PM

Nice! i have been in the same boat as well...looking at 5002 or 500916...or a 8 day panerai

16610v · 19 April 2018, 07:32 PM

I have 5002 and no question it is 100% the best BP watch. Like it iconic look, the 9, the white date, without cutting 2/4, chapter ring dial...

All make a Big Pilot to be a Big Pilot.

For the movement, I prefer the slow beat one to add the vintage look of second hand moves!!

BP 5002 is just incredible!

HL65 · 19 April 2018, 07:50 PM

5002 all day long! I had the transitional model and it was one hot watch! The dial has such a vintage look to it and just surpasses the modern.

superbry · 20 April 2018, 01:14 AM

i think i'd go with the 5009, is it just me or the dial looks cleaner

nauticajoe · 23 April 2018, 01:51 AM

I have the 500912. It's been my daily wearer. Love it!

nick c · 23 April 2018, 02:34 AM

I also will go 5002

cwilson13 · 1 May 2018, 11:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HL65

5002 all day long! I had the transitional model and it was one hot watch! The dial has such a vintage look to it and just surpasses the modern.

Hey Ken,

I have a 5002 trans and love it. As you said, there is just something about the dial when viewed on the wrist. It’s too big for mine but I wear it anyway!

Do they still drive a decent premium over slow beats. Or have those days past?

.

Just curious.

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jpwv · 16 May 2018, 10:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cwilson13

Hey Ken,

I have a 5002 trans and love it. As you said, there is just something about the dial when viewed on the wrist. It’s too big for mine but I wear it anyway!

Do they still drive a decent premium over slow beats. Or have those days past?

.

Just curious.

Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

Interested in knowing this as well. Although I have not purchased anything yet, when I decided I wanted a 5002 I started searching for the transitional, but based on price versus the original I moved away from that. After more research I decided the original is what I would prefer.

TonyD · 16 May 2018, 10:28 PM

I am in the same boat and get more confused every day!

The Blue Petite Prince models are also wonderful.

Lately I have been eyeing the Bronze version with blue hands!!!!!!

22 March 2018, 12:56 AM	#1
ptimson "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Chicago Watch: IWC 500912 Posts: 23	Big Pilot Decision I am at a crossroads... Do I task myself with tracking down an original 5002, or go with the newer 500912 or 501001? I know I want the number 9 on the face but that is all I have been able to commit to. What would you choose??

19 April 2018, 07:32 PM	#13
16610v "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: YL Watch: Submariner Posts: 701	I have 5002 and no question it is 100% the best BP watch. Like it iconic look, the 9, the white date, without cutting 2/4, chapter ring dial... All make a Big Pilot to be a Big Pilot. For the movement, I prefer the slow beat one to add the vintage look of second hand moves!! BP 5002 is just incredible! __________________ Instagram: litwing23

19 April 2018, 07:50 PM	#14
HL65 TRF Moderator & 2024 DATE-JUST41 Patron Join Date: Dec 2007 Real Name: Ken Location: SW Florida Watch: One on my wrist. Posts: 63,375	5002 all day long! I had the transitional model and it was one hot watch! The dial has such a vintage look to it and just surpasses the modern. __________________ *SPEM SUCCESSUS ALIT*

16 May 2018, 10:28 PM	#20
TonyD 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Real Name: Tony Location: Boston North Watch: Meteorite Daytona Posts: 1,456	I am in the same boat and get more confused every day! The Blue Petite Prince models are also wonderful. Lately I have been eyeing the Bronze version with blue hands!!!!!! __________________ Pepsi GMT/SD43/DSSD Blue/ DJ41 TT Rose Diamond Dial/ Daytona Meteorite/ SS Sky Dweller White Dial/ IWC Bronze Big Pilot/ Aquanautic Super King / Omega Ploprof 1200 / Graham Scarab Diver

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22 March 2018, 03:04 PM	#2
Mercury2wo "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2011 Location: Dubai Posts: 151	Pics of the watches proposed will help with opinions and discussions. Until then, let me google the reference numbers and come back

23 March 2018, 05:47 AM	#3
jpwv Banned Join Date: Nov 2017 Location: North Carolina Posts: 337	I've been having the same debate. I have landed on the 5002 if a big pilot at all. Im starting to lean toward saving longer term for a Patek since I already have a sport watch, Submariner, that I love. Once you decide on the 5002 you will then have to decide on the 5002 slow beat or the 5002 Transitional model (5002 with the 5004 movement). Decisions...decisions!

23 March 2018, 08:24 AM	#4
Slider817 "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Real Name: William Location: New York Watch: Journe, AP & Lange Posts: 868	I’d go for the least expensive one. I try not to make myself crazy about getting the most “collectable” variants, if it’s basically the same watch, which it is for the standard big pilot, I just get the cheapest one.

27 March 2018, 05:57 AM	#5
ptimson "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Chicago Watch: IWC 500912 Posts: 23	To make the comparison more clear: iwc3.jpg

27 March 2018, 06:02 AM	#6
opawlows "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Earth Watch: Rolex/Tudor/Breit Posts: 1,155	I prefer the numerals on the 5002 dial myself.

27 March 2018, 06:06 AM	#7
ptimson "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Chicago Watch: IWC 500912 Posts: 23	Pros for the 5002 in my book: Numerals White date wheel Its the original BP Brown buffalo strap Pros for 500912 Arguably better movement Ability to purchase new Cleaner power reserve dial

27 March 2018, 09:13 AM	#9
mobster600 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Jan 2017 Location: USA Watch: Yes Posts: 1,477	IWC just released the 501001, it has a 4htz mvmt. The length of the seconds hand is long and you can more easily see the seconds tick with the 3htz mvmts. With a 4htz, its smooth as silk going around. I think this was a much needed upgrade. So put the 501001 in the camp with the 5009. Pricing, the 5002 is around the same price as a mint cond 5009-501001. It really depends on what your after. I own a 5009 and I love it. Its really two different buyers when it comes down to it. 5002- Vintage feel, pilot to the bone 5009-501001- Modern, pilot with a little dressy touch

31 March 2018, 11:07 PM	#10
jezza17 "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Real Name: Alex Location: Sydney, Australia Watch: DRSD Posts: 511	500912 any day.

14 April 2018, 03:36 AM	#11
ptimson "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Chicago Watch: IWC 500912 Posts: 23	The 500912 was the winner! Pics forthcoming.....

14 April 2018, 12:10 PM	#12
pdnb "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: The best coast Watch: 5726, 5212 Posts: 637	Nice! i have been in the same boat as well...looking at 5002 or 500916...or a 8 day panerai

20 April 2018, 01:14 AM	#15
superbry Banned Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: HKG Watch: Rolex, Panerai Posts: 223	i think i'd go with the 5009, is it just me or the dial looks cleaner

23 April 2018, 01:51 AM	#16
nauticajoe "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Real Name: Joe Location: PA Posts: 14,774	I have the 500912. It's been my daily wearer. Love it!

23 April 2018, 02:34 AM	#17
nick c Banned Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Canada Posts: 26,846	I also will go 5002

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