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dr35mm · 15 April 2018, 02:45 AM

Hey Guys,

Just out of curiosity, how does the AP Diver 15710st compare to a Rolex Submariner in terms of ruggedness for daily wearing, perhaps one and only. I know the Submariner is much more service friendly.

Thanks!

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singe89 · 15 April 2018, 02:51 AM

Depends if you mind scratches on the SS bezel. The watch is great for daily wear but non ceramic bezels can show more scratches if you don’t have wrist awareness.

I used the FC diver as a daily beater for over 5 years and still looks new. It held up much better than the DSSD that was my daily beater prior to the AP.

Service for a diver is $930 with tax and shipping in the US and usually takes about a month.

tyler1980 · 15 April 2018, 03:01 AM

ceramic bezel vs steel bezel. Other than that im sure they could handle the same amount of daily wear. You problem is primarily appearance and how you want your watch to look.

PJ S · 15 April 2018, 03:09 AM

Perfectly fine for daily wear – diving under most desks, washing hands whilst being worn, and the odd snooze on the sofa (couch)… just don’t expect ±2 seconds per day accuracy.
Your location means you’ll probably use Clearwater APSC – so shouldn’t have much to worry about when it comes to lengthy service timeframes.

Coming from a Sub with its narrow bracelet, the ROO will take a bit of getting used to.
The lume is nothing really to write home about – as good/poor as the Rolex’s, at best.

So long as you go in with your eyes wide open, you’ll have no complaints, but if you think it’s an expensive Rolex alternative, you’re in for a rude awakening.

Etschell · 15 April 2018, 03:19 AM

to me it is just too top heavy. it is an exquisite time piece though. i mean top notch.

i am sure it is more than durable but is the movement as reliable as a rolex sub? no.

Burlington · 15 April 2018, 03:20 AM

Been very happy with mine, wearing on a daily basis for the last 6 months or so.

Super comfy on the rubber strap, a few small dings on the bezel and some hairline scratches, but nothing that bothers me too much.

I will take it off if I know I am doing something that will for sure cause damage and for sport, but otherwise for 99% of daily activities no issues whatsoever.

I'm sure it could handle the rest, but why cause unnecessary damage if it can be avoided.

AK797 · 15 April 2018, 04:07 AM

Was looking at the AP Diver, BP FF and SD43 together and I'd put in SS the AP first, but I most loved the BP FF in RG.

jrs146 · 15 April 2018, 09:41 PM

Daily wear is just fine. Maybe you get a scratch or two on the bezel. But that’s the life of an AP owner.

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drgoro · 15 April 2018, 10:48 PM

Both equally reliable and rugged ,but I'd rather look at a AP diver than a sub.

bayerische · 15 April 2018, 10:56 PM

AP Diver wins every day.

RHIII · 16 April 2018, 05:19 AM

I've worn the Diver as a daily as well as the Sub and as far as ruggedness, etc to me they're pretty equal.

Everyone always talks about scratches and all - with the slightest bit of wrist awareness you'll be a-ok. And I'd rather be looking down at a Diver as well.

TheDude · 17 April 2018, 01:06 AM

I know it’s not the question, but the diver wears -way- bigger on the wrist.

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Bobajobbob · 19 April 2018, 11:32 PM

I wear my diver almost daily and it definitely now has some "history" on the bezel. Sub probably stands up to abuse better but I still choose to wear my diver more often.

DCheeta · 20 April 2018, 01:06 AM

The movements are about the same as far as robustness and fitness for daily wear.

As everyone else has said, the AP will show marks on the bezel whereas the ceramic bezel of the Sub will not.

Regarding service, I'm not sure I'd say that the Rolex is more service friendly. My recent experiences with RSC have not been good, but APSC has glowing reviews from people here who have experience with them.

15 April 2018, 02:45 AM	#1
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15 April 2018, 03:01 AM	#3
tyler1980 "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: Houston Posts: 17,622	ceramic bezel vs steel bezel. Other than that im sure they could handle the same amount of daily wear. You problem is primarily appearance and how you want your watch to look. __________________ Instagram: tyler.watches current collection: Patek 5164A, Patek 5524G, Rolex Platinum Daytona 116506, Rolex Sea Dweller 43 126600, Rolex GMT II 116710LN, AP 15400ST (silver), Panerai 913, Omega Speedmaster moonwatch, Tudor Black Bay (Harrods Edition)

15 April 2018, 03:19 AM	#5
Etschell "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: FL Watch: platinum sub Posts: 15,884	to me it is just too top heavy. it is an exquisite time piece though. i mean top notch. i am sure it is more than durable but is the movement as reliable as a rolex sub? no. __________________ If you wind it, they will run. 25 or 6 to 4.

15 April 2018, 03:20 AM	#6
Burlington "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2017 Location: Europe Posts: 5,635	Been very happy with mine, wearing on a daily basis for the last 6 months or so. Super comfy on the rubber strap, a few small dings on the bezel and some hairline scratches, but nothing that bothers me too much. I will take it off if I know I am doing something that will for sure cause damage and for sport, but otherwise for 99% of daily activities no issues whatsoever. I'm sure it could handle the rest, but why cause unnecessary damage if it can be avoided. __________________ “My tastes are simple; I am easily satisfied with the best.” ― Winston S. Churchill

15 April 2018, 09:41 PM	#8
jrs146 "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Real Name: Josh Location: Lost in time Watch: Me Nae Nae Posts: 9,821	Daily wear is just fine. Maybe you get a scratch or two on the bezel. But that’s the life of an AP owner. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk __________________ "Sometimes the songs that we hear are just songs of our own." -Jerome J. Garcia, Robert C. Hunter

15 April 2018, 02:51 AM	#2
singe89 "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Real Name: Jim Location: Orange County, CA Watch: Rolex, AP & Patek Posts: 3,722	Depends if you mind scratches on the SS bezel. The watch is great for daily wear but non ceramic bezels can show more scratches if you don’t have wrist awareness. I used the FC diver as a daily beater for over 5 years and still looks new. It held up much better than the DSSD that was my daily beater prior to the AP. Service for a diver is $930 with tax and shipping in the US and usually takes about a month.

15 April 2018, 03:09 AM	#4
PJ S Banned Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: UK Posts: 3,990	Perfectly fine for daily wear – diving under most desks, washing hands whilst being worn, and the odd snooze on the sofa (couch)… just don’t expect ±2 seconds per day accuracy. Your location means you’ll probably use Clearwater APSC – so shouldn’t have much to worry about when it comes to lengthy service timeframes. Coming from a Sub with its narrow bracelet, the ROO will take a bit of getting used to. The lume is nothing really to write home about – as good/poor as the Rolex’s, at best. So long as you go in with your eyes wide open, you’ll have no complaints, but if you think it’s an expensive Rolex alternative, you’re in for a rude awakening.

15 April 2018, 04:07 AM	#7
AK797 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Real Name: Neil Location: UK Watch: ing ships roll in Posts: 59,225	Was looking at the AP Diver, BP FF and SD43 together and I'd put in SS the AP first, but I most loved the BP FF in RG.

15 April 2018, 10:48 PM	#9
drgoro "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: Virginia Posts: 816	Both equally reliable and rugged ,but I'd rather look at a AP diver than a sub.

15 April 2018, 10:56 PM	#10
bayerische "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Real Name: Andreas Location: Margaritaville Watch: Smurf Posts: 19,879	AP Diver wins every day. __________________ Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man.

16 April 2018, 05:19 AM	#11
RHIII Member Join Date: Jul 2014 Real Name: Roger Location: ... Watch: AP/Rolex/PP Posts: 6,309	I've worn the Diver as a daily as well as the Sub and as far as ruggedness, etc to me they're pretty equal. Everyone always talks about scratches and all - with the slightest bit of wrist awareness you'll be a-ok. And I'd rather be looking down at a Diver as well.

17 April 2018, 01:06 AM	#12
TheDude "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: DC Area, USA Watch: IIc,1680 Red,16660 Posts: 4,483	I know it’s not the question, but the diver wears -way- bigger on the wrist. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

19 April 2018, 11:32 PM	#13
Bobajobbob "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2016 Location: UK Posts: 29	I wear my diver almost daily and it definitely now has some "history" on the bezel. Sub probably stands up to abuse better but I still choose to wear my diver more often.

20 April 2018, 01:06 AM	#14
DCheeta "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Real Name: Dave Location: NYC Posts: 7,180	The movements are about the same as far as robustness and fitness for daily wear. As everyone else has said, the AP will show marks on the bezel whereas the ceramic bezel of the Sub will not. Regarding service, I'm not sure I'd say that the Rolex is more service friendly. My recent experiences with RSC have not been good, but APSC has glowing reviews from people here who have experience with them.

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