1675 blueberry resources - help

[In-Cog-Neeto]

Guys

Can you point me in the direction where I can learn in depth about the so called ‘blueberry’ please?

[greekbum]

It’s a watch made up of Rolex parts was never sold by Rolex

[rootbeer7]

Originally Posted by greekbum

It’s a watch made up of Rolex parts was never sold by Rolex

This. Look no further.

[Dan S]

One of the riskiest value propositions in vintage Rolex IMO.

[southtexas]

Is the blueberry still a craze?

[1675-David]

If it doesn’t have Tiffany on the dial and an all red hand I’m not interested..

[In-Cog-Neeto]

Originally Posted by greekbum

It’s a watch made up of Rolex parts was never sold by Rolex

I was reading that it was a special order in the 70s direct from Rolex

Military such as the UAE forces special ordered them with the blue insert

From the little I managed to find out there were only very few fully original versions such as the above, but mostly they are made of a 1675 with a blue insert added separately

I wondered if there was anything published considered to be the definitive guide

[BigBlue1]

Im not sure how much is out there on them as I have never really researched them myself. I am sure if you reach out to either Lee Fowler or Springer , they would have some great knowledge in regards.

[Gmt21]

Originally Posted by In-Cog-Neeto

I was reading that it was a special order in the 70s direct from Rolex

Military such as the UAE forces special ordered them with the blue insert

From the little I managed to find out there were only very few fully original versions such as the above, but mostly they are made of a 1675 with a blue insert added separately

I wondered if there was anything published considered to be the definitive guide

You can go down a thousand rabbit holes researching this. My take away is that the blue insert was a service insert not made by rolex but available for a time. The GMT 1675 with all red hand and blueberry is a made up watch never available from Rolex per se.

[05carbondrz]

Originally Posted by southtexas

Is the blueberry still a craze?

Yes,The Asians love them along with a T38,Arabic Date Wheel and all Red GMT Hand.They pimp out their GMT’s big Time.

[Swearengen]

Hats off to Greekbum for saying it as it it

Originally Posted by greekbum

It’s a watch made up of Rolex parts was never sold by Rolex

[Swearengen]

Or a radial dial.........

Originally Posted by 1675-David

If it doesn’t have Tiffany on the dial and an all red hand I’m not interested..

[springer]

Originally Posted by In-Cog-Neeto

I was reading that it was a special order in the 70s direct from Rolex

Military such as the UAE forces special ordered them with the blue insert

From the little I managed to find out there were only very few fully original versions such as the above, but mostly they are made of a 1675 with a blue insert added separately

I wondered if there was anything published considered to be the definitive
guide

What you read is pure fabrication. Pure fiction and the result of someone's imagination. Further, the "blueberry's" have been discussed many times here on TRF so if anyone is really interested, utilize the search function and you'll find previous threads on the fictional "blueberry."

[springer]

Originally Posted by BigBlue1

Im not sure how much is out there on them as I have never really researched them myself. I am sure if you reach out to either Lee Fowler or Springer , they would have some great knowledge in regards.

My opinion hasn't changed since the last "blueberry" thread. The watch is a fictional, cobbled-together GMT.

[1675-David]

Originally Posted by Swearengen

Or a radial dial.........

[springer]

Originally Posted by southtexas

Is the blueberry still a craze?

Only on Blueberry Hill!!!

[othertbone]

Unicorn

[In-Cog-Neeto]

Originally Posted by springer

What you read is pure fabrication. Pure fiction and the result of someone's imagination. Further, the "blueberry's" have been discussed many times here on TRF so if anyone is really interested, utilize the search function and you'll find previous threads on the fictional "blueberry."

Well, that is good to know. Such disinformation out there.

I know it’s been discussed before and did search but sometime discussion is as misleading so was looking for more reliable history

So reading the old threads, and some of the same folk who posted here also posted then, the blue insert is referred to as a ‘service’ insert. If Rolex did not sell these then why did they produce them?

Thank you

[Dan S]

Originally Posted by In-Cog-Neeto

Well, that is good to know. Such disinformation out there.

I know it’s been discussed before and did search but sometime discussion is as misleading so was looking for more reliable history

So reading the old threads, and some of the same folk who posted here also posted then, the blue insert is referred to as a ‘service’ insert. If Rolex did not sell these then why did they produce them?

Thank you

Threads like these are funny ... I see them on all the forums. Someone wants to rehash old speculations about a particular variation. "Is this an original configuration?" "Was this a military issued watch?" "Is this a rare prototype?" Then when they don't get the answer they are looking for, they attempt to shift the burden of proof to the people who are rightfully skeptical.

The bottom line in my view is that without documentation/provenance, there is no difference between a put-together watch and a correct-but-undocumented watch, so questions like the above are moot. If you like the watch, and you are willing to take the risk of buying into a bubble that many experts are actively trying to pop, then go ahead. You don't need anyone's permission to spend $15k on a thin blue annulus of aluminum.

[037]

Originally Posted by greekbum

It’s a watch made up of Rolex parts was never sold by Rolex

Originally Posted by Dan S

...$15k on a thin blue annulus of aluminum.

Hilariously accurate.

[In-Cog-Neeto]

Originally Posted by Dan S

Threads like these are funny ... I see them on all the forums. Someone wants to rehash old speculations about a particular variation. "Is this an original configuration?" "Was this a military issued watch?" "Is this a rare prototype?" Then when they don't get the answer they are looking for, they attempt to shift the burden of proof to the people who are rightfully skeptical.

The bottom line in my view is that without documentation/provenance, there is no difference between a put-together watch and a correct-but-undocumented watch, so questions like the above are moot. If you like the watch, and you are willing to take the risk of buying into a bubble that many experts are actively trying to pop, then go ahead. You don't need anyone's permission to spend $15k on a thin blue annulus of aluminum.

You seem to have missed the point

I am trying to learn about them thus asking for input from more experience folk as I read an article and would like to ascertain it’s accuracy - perhaps other people on this thread would like to learn also

Nothing being rehashed, nobody trying to decide to purchase based on a forum discussion here, nobody looking for a specific answer

Read the posts before making inane - or rather moot - comments

https://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=513068

I guess it remains a mystery with no end in sight........

[Dan S]

Originally Posted by In-Cog-Neeto

You seem to have missed the point

I am trying to learn about them thus asking for input from more experience folk as I read an article and would like to ascertain it’s accuracy - perhaps other people on this thread would like to learn also

Nothing being rehashed, nobody trying to decide to purchase based on a forum discussion here, nobody looking for a specific answer

Read the posts before making inane - or rather moot - comments

https://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=513068

I guess it remains a mystery with no end in sight........

No, I didn't miss the point. This post of yours confirms it and calling my comments "inane" doesn't help your argument. It's not a mystery, you just don't want to accept the answer you've been given. And yes, you are re-hashing a topic that has been beaten to death, as demonstrated by the thread you linked.

[BigBlue1]

https://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=633501

Here is another for Ya. The very rare Green Insert. LOL

Since Dan wants to re-hash up old threads.

Ill have eggs with the hash.

[In-Cog-Neeto]

Originally Posted by Dan S

No, I didn't miss the point. This post of yours confirms it and calling my comments "inane" doesn't help your argument. It's not a mystery, you just don't want to accept the answer you've been given. And yes, you are re-hashing a topic that has been beaten to death, as demonstrated by the thread you linked.

Yeah good on ya Dan

No one was having an argument until you showed up. Accepting an answer before understanding why is the sign of an idiot. If that’s how you go about things that’s up to you

What you need to realise is that something to one person can be new i.e, just came across it, while to others it’s old hat. That’s the definition of ‘experience’ and which is why I asked for advice from some more experienced people. For example, I just saw a pic of the blueberry posted by Lee, having never seen one before and found a little reading, I wanted to check the accuracy of what I read.

And on the thread I linked to, no one provided reason one way or the other as to why all blue service inserts were produced in the first place if they were never issued as a standard option. With your wisdom, can you answer that?

What a joker you are

[swish77]

Originally Posted by In-Cog-Neeto

Yeah good on ya Dan

No one was having an argument until you showed up. Accepting an answer before understanding why is the sign of an idiot. If that’s how you go about things that’s up to you

What you need to realise is that something to one person can be new i.e, just came across it, while to others it’s old hat. That’s the definition of ‘experience’ and which is why I asked for advice from some more experienced people. For example, I just saw a pic of the blueberry posted by Lee, having never seen one before and found a little reading, I wanted to check the accuracy of what I read.

And on the thread I linked to, no one provided reason one way or the other as to why all blue service inserts were produced in the first place if they were never issued as a standard option. With your wisdom, can you answer that?

What a joker you are

Come on, now, let's not make it personal. We're taking about watches here. It ain't that big a deal.

So, getting back to the point ... it's generally accepted by folks who have been doing this for decades, that no GMTs originally left the Rolex factory with an all-blue bezel insert. There are many threads here and over on VRF about this.

Why Rolex might have later produced an all-blue service insert for GMTs is open to debate and speculation. As we all know, Rolex is quite secretive about why they do things.

That's pretty much all there is to this issue/question.

[uncleluck]

Does anyone really know for sure?

I mean, let’s say I had info here from Rolex, official documents which could show the truth...

How many who say they were never a watch would bet their house on it?

Does the fact the inserts are Rolex parts not hint more to the fact there was a watch at some point? I can’t think of any manufacturer that sold different colour bezel inserts (that were never on watches) let alone Rolex, they’re the last manufacturer I’d imagine doing so.


I have no financial interest either way but the odd fact for me is people say they’re genuine inserts.

It’s more likely they’re fake inserts than genuine inserts never destined for a watch surely?

[Paulie 50]

Originally Posted by springer

My opinion hasn't changed since the last "blueberry" thread. The watch is a fictional, cobbled-together GMT.

I agree John; and I'll say now what I said then, there has never, ever been a photo of a " Blueberry " in any Rolex catalogue.

[In-Cog-Neeto]

Originally Posted by Paulie 50

I agree John; and I'll say now what I said then, there has never, ever been a photo of a " Blueberry " in any Rolex catalogue.

Just to fuel this fire more then, and definitely not in an argumentative way in case there are any sensitive people out there

Has every single iteration of every single Rolex reference been in an official Rolex publication? All the various dial anomalies, colour configurations, logo dials, military orders and so on?

[tekno]

Originally Posted by 1675-David

If it doesn’t have Tiffany on the dial and an all red hand I’m not interested..

Nice


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[tekno]

Originally Posted by In-Cog-Neeto

I was reading that it was a special order in the 70s direct from Rolex



Military such as the UAE forces special ordered them with the blue insert



From the little I managed to find out there were only very few fully original versions such as the above, but mostly they are made of a 1675 with a blue insert added separately



I wondered if there was anything published considered to be the definitive guide

Remember, everything you read on the Internet isn’t always true. Especially if it’s off a guys site that is trying to sell very expensive rare watches.


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