1016 Hierarchy

[sethwick]

In terms of desirability/value, what's the hierarchy for 1016s?
Gilt? Matte? Mark X? Types? Frog Legs? L Serials?? Other????

[Toronto Soup King]

Gilt, early, good dial and hands and no polish, better a 6150 frankly if you have coin. Of course. OTOH mine has a service dial, Sub hands, a movement my watchmaker literally guffawed upon opening before overhauling including a replacement rotor of all things, and a beat-to-heck (not really bad is what I mean eh) but still OK case. And all that said I still like it best out of all my watches as a daily. The 1016 is to me very close to the ideal watch.

But if you want one to wear as a daily, I'd say look for the latest version which was IIRC "R" Serial from the 80s? Best of both worlds, there, the old look on a fairly new watch, only 30 years old maybe! And finding a good gilt now is, as you've seen from the forums, eye-wateringly expensive and fraught with anxiety over possibly buying something with undisclosed repaired, replaced, or even outright fake elements to the watch which would affect the resale.

[Juhuatai]

Assuming all condition is equal:
1. Gilt Chapter Ring
2. Gilt
3. Early Matte dial with rivet bracelet
4. Late R or L serial
5. Regular matte dial

That's what I've come to observe in terms of prices. This is a very loosely based ranking and obviously patina can influence this to a large degree.

As Pete said, good gilt dials have become extremely expensive.

[Sglass]

What years are considered early matte?

[Juhuatai]

67-70ish is when they were matte and came on a rivet bracelet

[waspy1]

A good gilt 1016 is still much less expensive than a comparable gilt 1675 or 5513. I think they are still reasonably good value. If you can find one...


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[Juhuatai]

Originally Posted by waspy1

A good gilt 1016 is still much less expensive than a comparable gilt 1675 or 5513. I think they are still reasonably good value. If you can find one...


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Yup that is true, it's all relative I suppose..