The true reason the Nautilus is impossible to get

[soundserious]

Originally Posted by codecow

When I get ready to leave in the morning and select a timepiece I always think, what does this choice today say about me? My Nautilus is a symbol of overcoming my struggle.

Escaping the mean streets of a predominantly middle class white collar neighborhood to hit the big time of a predominantly upper middle class/lower upper class white collar neighborhood.

Growing up my family didn't even have a luxury sports car. My neighbor did, but we didn't. One time when my parents were paying for my college I had to eat at $0.29 cent taco day at Del Taco due to being low on funds.

Well no more. When I snap the deployant on my 5712 all of that gets erased.

Man I need to get out to the Bay more and smoke that good stuff man.

[scarlet knight]

Somehow, I do not think that their listeners are Patek aficionados. They may buy their jeans, but not $25,000 mechanical watches.

[JorgeCCW]

didn't read all the replies but these artists well tilt the balance to the PM Nautilus not SS. they like the bling , so why 5711/1a or 5712/1a ?

[DeeTee]

Originally Posted by JorgeCCW

didn't read all the replies but these artists well tilt the balance to the PM Nautilus not SS. they like the bling , so why 5711/1a or 5712/1a ?

The color of the metal doesn’t matter when you ice it out.
5711 and 5712 were the cheapest cost of entry.

[JorgeCCW]

Originally Posted by DeeTee

The color of the metal doesn’t matter when you ice it out.

5711 and 5712 were the cheapest cost of entry.

True


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[kohuti02]

Originally Posted by PanosI

+1

First time in my life i heard those artists.

I'll second that.

[kingofthehill]

Originally Posted by tyler1980

At 6'5 the 5990 is quite understated on the wrist, on me at least.

That would certainly make a difference!

[briboxer]

Great post guys! and fun to see the different points of view. That is why we all have 2 cents. Not 50...LOL
There are "industry" people that place product. Been doing it for eons. How do you think the now-not-so-popular-anymore Panerai reached its position of demand? Stallone, Schwartzenegger, Brosnan, and on and on.
Not too long ago, the Offshores were a big hit with Soccer "football" players across the pond.
Who remembers when the ballplayers started dressing in style? Jordan and the bulls. The watch back then was a blinged out Breitling Super Avenger or Bentley. 15 years ago.
These days it is still the same story. Brands get recognized by "celebrity" status, and others get on board. If even to interpret it with their own style. It becomes a fashion accessory. Women have their Birkens or G wagons (yes women). I see more women drive them then men.

Again...great topic. thanks for letting me add my 2 cents.:)

[InfinityNexus]

Originally Posted by onmyhand

This is why I bought the 5711.

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If Brad Pitt can save the world from a bunch of Zombies with a Nautilus on, why can't you?

[DeeTee]

Brad Pitt has every watch.
Probably has backups for his backups.

[tyler1980]

Originally Posted by DeeTee

Brad Pitt has every watch.
Probably has backups for his backups.

its probably a P and not an A anyway

Just look at the look on his face while he is raising his arm.

[Peterandwatches]

Steve McQueen, James Bond, and NASA raised the profile of certain watches we've all come to love.

[JayG]

Originally Posted by sensui

Don't know who they are...now that I looked them up...I want the Nautilus far less.

Excellent reasoning ... I'm sure you find them more desirable when on the wrists of investment bankers and financial engineer types

[AK797]

I can't say I've ever bought a watch because of a celebrity endorsement, I love Roger to death, like we all do, he's probably the most admired sports man, indeed man, of recent times, but I still don't have a DJ41 or SkyD, and tho I am quite keen, he won't push me over, only I push me over.

[tyler1980]

Originally Posted by AK797

I can't say I've ever bought a watch because of a celebrity endorsement, I love Roger to death, like we all do, he's probably the most admired sports man, indeed man, of recent times, but I still don't have a DJ41 or SkyD, and tho I am quite keen, he won't push me over, only I push me over.

if he shaved his arms he might make me buy a sky d ... that way i could see him wearing it

[tyler1980]

the interesting thing about this is whatever is moving the needle on the nautilus and its probably a few factors, its still a small ripple effect that is massively increasing demand as there are not that many watches to begin with. For example, with Rolex's production capacity a Nautilus wouldn't be as hard to find....

This begs the question with even smaller brands like RM. Its hot right now with even smaller production and even smaller amount of buyers so its actually quite a dangerous position to be in... It only takes a few dozen people to get bored and move on and the whole thing falls apart.

The Nautilus may be hyped but so is RM and id feel more secure being a nautilus owner in this market.

[kronomentro]

Originally Posted by tyler1980

the interesting thing about this is whatever is moving the needle on the nautilus and its probably a few factors, its still a small ripple effect that is massively increasing demand as there are not that many watches to begin with. For example, with Rolex's production capacity a Nautilus wouldn't be as hard to find....

This begs the question with even smaller brands like RM. Its hot right now with even smaller production and even smaller amount of buyers so its actually quite a dangerous position to be in... It only takes a few dozen people to get bored move on and the whole thing falls apart.

The Nautilus may be hyped but so is RM and id feel more secure being a nautilus owner in this market.

totally agree. seasoned collectors have told me they have never seen such frenzy for the nautilus before so of course expect it to eventually die down. but of course with patek's stature/history and production numbers/demand, we have to be realistic that some models like the 5711A blue dial will seemingly ALWAYS trade for higher than retail, just prob not this much higher.

[AK797]

Do any rappers also organise shipping? When a PP tie costs a quarter of the shipping...

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Patek-Phi....c100005.m1851

[codecow]

Originally Posted by soundserious

Man I need to get out to the Bay more and smoke that good stuff man.

Haha 😂

[RussW]

Not specific to the Nautilus, but I think the London, New York and other exhibitions have raised the profile of and interest in Patek. I went to the London exhibition and it was packed. Thousands of people went. Maybe some of those decided they wanted a Patek, and a Nautilus is an obvious choice.

[myporsche]

Originally Posted by DeeTee

The color of the metal doesn’t matter when you ice it out.
5711 and 5712 were the cheapest cost of entry.

Nor does the authenticity as most of those blinged out ones you see are replicas.

[enjoythemusic]

Originally Posted by myporsche

Nor does the authenticity as most of those blinged out ones you see are replicas.

That's why they should have went to vlad's.

[GB-man]

Originally Posted by AK797

Do any rappers also organise shipping? When a PP tie costs a quarter of the shipping...

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Patek-Phi....c100005.m1851

I can hook you up with a patek tie Neil just pm your address

Not that you need one these days...being a professional poster and all

[Ichiran]

Originally Posted by onmyhand

This is why I bought the 5711.

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And now u have arguably an even better collection than Mr Pitt.

Please show a wrist shot of your 5711P will you?

[onmyhand]

A pleasure. Thanks for asking.

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[Saturninus]

Patek knows how to protect their brand. Blinged out Nautili will be all the rage for the next couple years or so, then the crowd will get bored and move on to something else. Some other brand like AP or Hublot will try to aggressively capitalize on the hype and sign up a steady stream of brand ambassadors to draw the crowds their way.

As long as Patek doesn't start using brand ambassadors, they will survive the attempt to hijack their brand.

[TheRolexKingofLV]

The clubs here in Vegas in the last year are filled with iced out Pateks...

[Marciano490]

Originally Posted by TheRolexKingofLV

The clubs here in Vegas in the last year are filled with iced out Pateks...

Well, at least it makes it easier for the hookers.

[lovetherolex]

Originally Posted by DeeTee

I had to google proselytization
Also I have no vested interest. I wish they quit rapping about it so I could get a steel 5980 for 35-40k like it was a year ago.

There is multiple posts a day for the past six months wondering why it’s so hard to get any bracelet Nautilus. I’m just letting people know why since there are some older folks and people from different countries who don’t know what’s going on with pop culture.

I’m not one to purposely stir the pot, but I do like to express my opinion.

Once again thank you for teaching me a new word. Definitely have to save it next time I play scrabble!

Cheers mate. Thanks for sharing your viewpoint. Here's to TRF

Originally Posted by briboxer

Great post guys! and fun to see the different points of view. That is why we all have 2 cents. Not 50...LOL
There are "industry" people that place product. Been doing it for eons. How do you think the now-not-so-popular-anymore Panerai reached its position of demand? Stallone, Schwartzenegger, Brosnan, and on and on.
Not too long ago, the Offshores were a big hit with Soccer "football" players across the pond.
Who remembers when the ballplayers started dressing in style? Jordan and the bulls. The watch back then was a blinged out Breitling Super Avenger or Bentley. 15 years ago.
These days it is still the same story. Brands get recognized by "celebrity" status, and others get on board. If even to interpret it with their own style. It becomes a fashion accessory. Women have their Birkens or G wagons (yes women). I see more women drive them then men.

Again...great topic. thanks for letting me add my 2 cents.:)

There are undeniably often vested interests quietly at work behind the scenes.

Originally Posted by AK797

Size don't matter on the internet, everything can look big, so Nauts can replace ROOs and Breitlings no problem. Patek is the next step for the rapper show offs after AP and Rolex and soon they will be onto the Independents if the global economy holds, no one will be immune. We've talked before about how SM and showing off has become this huge phenomenon that has overtaken the world, and that's what most SM is now about, even mothers show off their new tattoos and crave as many likes as possible. Even Zuckerberg never imagined the world would turn out like this, and apart from this forum I am off the grid.

Though I think it's not based on hip hop, it's a symptom of today's mainstream cultural values.

Originally Posted by TheRolexKingofLV

The clubs here in Vegas in the last year are filled with iced out Pateks...

Originally Posted by myporsche

Nor does the authenticity as most of those blinged out ones you see are replicas.

So correct, and a more salient point than has been given credence in this thread. If you're going to ice it out and with the main purpose of posting on SM for attention, why should you care if it's real or fake. It's only the appearance of, that matters. That's what SM is about, isn't it...

https://www.instagram.com/fakewatchbusta

The one with the "ROC" with two 60s subdials is a classic

[Passionata]

Originally Posted by JorgeCCW

didn't read all the replies but these artists well tilt the balance to the PM Nautilus not SS. they like the bling , so why 5711/1a or 5712/1a ?

Do u think Patek accepts for service those iced out pieces,i m sure rsc d refuse it.