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Old 15 January 2023, 12:05 AM   #1
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5811g versus 5740g

I was thinking of 'upgrading' to a 5740g. But the more I look at it, the more I think the 5740g dial is just too busy. I never liked the 5711A, but I do like the 5811G, I think the fact that it's white gold makes it a more substantial piece I'd like on my wrist. There is a lot to compare and contrast between these two pieces. Thoughts and opinions? Maybe this is a good topic for discussion.
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Old 15 January 2023, 12:48 AM   #2
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Have you handled a 5740 in person? I find the dial in person to be less busy. The 5740 wins hands down for me with the QP and electric blue dial, it feels special on the wrist. IMO worth the price delta to the 5811g. Hoping to add to my collection this year.
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Old 15 January 2023, 01:37 AM   #3
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Their complications and pricing are poles apart. The blue of the 5811 is a deeper hue while the 5740 is a lighter shade of blue. Weight-wise, they are comparable - 5811 is 188g vs 190g of the 5740. While the 5811 is 1mm bigger, I couldn't really notice the difference on my wrist and they wear very similar. The 5811 has the new micro adjustment which is very useful and I find myself adjusting the bracelet multiple times daily due to the weather here.

I personally prefer the 5740 due to the calendar complication and the more interesting red accent on the dial to complement the blue. However, if you can get both you should do so as they are very different watches but yet complementary in a collection.

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Old 15 January 2023, 02:00 AM   #4
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You cant compare the two
but the 5740 is the boss
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Old 15 January 2023, 02:37 AM   #5
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5811 hands down. 5740 - doubt you’ll be using the PC with other watches on rotation.


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Old 15 January 2023, 03:03 AM   #6
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Will take 5740 all day. Hope to own one someday or even see it in person.
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Old 15 January 2023, 03:07 AM   #7
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I didn't think the 5740 dial is too busy when I saw it in Geneva. But I also think the 240 PC dial layout works best in the 3940. There the PC dial is clearly the star and can shine while it "competes" with the more special case design and dial geometry in the Nautilus.

That said, I'd happily add the 5740 if I got the call whereas 5811 feels to me like a less attractive and less useful sibling of 5711 blue at a higher MSRP.
For me there was zero need for any upsizing and I don't like the dressed up date window and new font. On the other hand I have always liked the grey blue dial color of 5711 and its light weight when wearing it every day.
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Old 15 January 2023, 04:08 AM   #8
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5740 getting really close to msrp in the secondary ..
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Old 15 January 2023, 06:02 AM   #9
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If you have the chance to choose either, I'd definitely want to hold each in my hand and put them on my wrist. Michael's pictures are helpful, but you really need to have direct experience. Neither gets me excited based on the pics, but maybe it's different when you have them in hand.
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Old 15 January 2023, 07:02 AM   #10
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5740 no contest
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Old 15 January 2023, 07:21 AM   #11
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with my head, 5811 because i don't think of a calendar moonphase as "sports complication", but today i think the 5740 is it's own peak and would be a great watch, if one could, to wear as an everday watch; there are few situations it's not going to be the "best" watch you could be wearing.
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Old 15 January 2023, 09:08 AM   #12
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The side by side pics are helpful for sure. Thanks
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Old 15 January 2023, 09:33 AM   #13
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Does anyone know if the latest 5740 pieces come with the new bracelet with the micro adjustment?
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Old 15 January 2023, 11:01 AM   #14
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Ridiculous as this sounds I prefer the 5811. The reason for me is the running seconds hand, which the 5740 lacks and that makes me paranoid if the watch is working or not…Also the 5811 is water resistant to a whopping 120m which is certainly respectable and allows me to use the 5811 as a serious sport watch (if required), more a theoretical need for sure but nice to know it can withstand a splash in the pool etc.

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Old 15 January 2023, 11:08 AM   #15
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The 5740 is beautifully executed.
The separator for me is the higher WR of the 5811/5711.

60m vs 120m.

Many don’t find this a consideration but when possible I prefer to never have to take a watch off my wrist unless I am choosing to wear a different watch.
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Old 15 January 2023, 01:06 PM   #16
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Would like to add a 5811, but if I did, I would always wear the 5740 over it because it’s just more special and more rare to see the grand comp nautilus


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Old 15 January 2023, 01:34 PM   #17
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The 5740 is beautifully executed.
The separator for me is the higher WR of the 5811/5711.

60m vs 120m.

Many don’t find this a consideration but when possible I prefer to never have to take a watch off my wrist unless I am choosing to wear a different watch.
how frequently do you service your 5711? I was surprised after an independent high end rolex service how conservative they were about recommendation with a 2002 16710. Did you see that rose gold aquanaut with the seawater (you can google it and see the photos on reddit)? It was pretty much user error but wow it looks devastating.
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Old 15 January 2023, 02:51 PM   #18
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Would like to add a 5811, but if I did, I would always wear the 5740 over it because it’s just more special and more rare to see the grand comp nautilus
This.

And just my opinion - once I have the 5740, the rest of the Nautilus and Aquanaut range are less worn on the wrist. I'm hoping for Patek to release a 5740 in rose gold, or a perpetual calendar chronograph in that beautiful case. That will be awesome. That said, the blue 5740 will always be special due to the complications and slim case.
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Old 15 January 2023, 03:46 PM   #19
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The 5740 is beautifully executed.
The separator for me is the higher WR of the 5811/5711.

60m vs 120m.

Many don’t find this a consideration but when possible I prefer to never have to take a watch off my wrist unless I am choosing to wear a different watch.
How often are you 60m below sea level?
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Old 15 January 2023, 03:55 PM   #20
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If it's a blue dial, I'm almost in love with it and they're both that but IMO 5740 is that and more. In this comparison, I have only one choice and it's the 5740.
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Old 15 January 2023, 05:22 PM   #21
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How often are you 60m below sea level?
I think it’s not about going below 60m but even say a splash in the swimming pool, I would not feel comfortable with any watch that does not withstand 10ATMs or 100m of water resistance. And I respect Patek for making a luxury sport watch that is “actually” a sport watch like the 5811, where you can actually fall into a pool or even snorkel with it should you wish and it can take the beating.
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Old 15 January 2023, 05:31 PM   #22
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I think it’s not about going below 60m but even say a splash in the swimming pool, I would not feel comfortable with any watch that does not withstand 10ATMs or 100m of water resistance. And I respect Patek for making a luxury sport watch that is “actually” a sport watch like the 5811, where you can actually fall into a pool or even snorkel with it should you wish and it can take the beating.
60m WR is more than enough for any splash in the pool, river or even sea (including snorkeling) with your Patek, as long as you have had it checked from time to time and do not operate the watch underwater.

120m or 60m does, in this respect, not make any difference.
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Old 15 January 2023, 10:04 PM   #23
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Does anyone know if the latest 5740 pieces come with the new bracelet with the micro adjustment?
Yes...they do have the micro adjustment
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Old 15 January 2023, 10:35 PM   #24
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Ridiculous as this sounds I prefer the 5811. The reason for me is the running seconds hand, which the 5740 lacks and that makes me paranoid if the watch is working or not…Also the 5811 is water resistant to a whopping 120m which is certainly respectable and allows me to use the 5811 as a serious sport watch (if required), more a theoretical need for sure but nice to know it can withstand a splash in the pool etc.

Here’s a shot of mine:

This shot is dangerous. It certainly brings out the best in the color combination of 5811. Am I warming up to it?

The lower water resistance of 5740 wouldn't be a big factor for me. I have been swimming and doing water sports with a 60m rated watch for 20 years no problem. Similarly, I have been swimming with a 5711 for 5 years w/o issues. Maybe I just got lucky as I don't get my watches pressure tested every year either.
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Old 16 January 2023, 12:41 AM   #25
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I think the Nautilus is a sport watch, and as such, should have a time only function with running seconds and a date. A PC complication belongs in a dress watch in my view. But, of course, whatever works for you is all that matters.
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Old 16 January 2023, 12:45 AM   #26
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60m WR is more than enough for any splash in the pool, river or even sea (including snorkeling) with your Patek, as long as you have had it checked from time to time and do not operate the watch underwater.

120m or 60m does, in this respect, not make any difference.
LOL. No way would I ever submerge a 5740 in water with those four corrector case holes regardless of whatever Patek says the WR is. Those stay shut tight by tiny springs which wear out very quickly if the watch is frequently set. They are frequently replaced in a 240Q service.
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Old 16 January 2023, 01:35 AM   #27
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This.

And just my opinion - once I have the 5740, the rest of the Nautilus and Aquanaut range are less worn on the wrist. I'm hoping for Patek to release a 5740 in rose gold, or a perpetual calendar chronograph in that beautiful case. That will be awesome. That said, the blue 5740 will always be special due to the complications and slim case.
No rose gold yet, please.

At least after this year.
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Old 16 January 2023, 01:37 AM   #28
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Yes...they do have the micro adjustment
Is it like the one on the 7811R or 5811?
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Old 16 January 2023, 04:27 AM   #29
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Is it like the one on the 7811R or 5811?
Yes...you can extend the very next link (I think by 2mm) on each side of the clasp. Pretty comfortable and easy to use.
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How often are you 60m below sea level?
Unfortunately That’s not how WR ratings work.
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