ROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEX

Justindo · 16 January 2021, 06:55 PM

If you did not own a Speedmaster Professional Moonwatch Sapphire Sandwich and you wanted one, which one would you purchase and why?

greeneyedguy · 16 January 2021, 08:37 PM

I would purchase the 321. Look at them side by side. The 321 dial is less cluttered and far more attractive. The movement as well. I like the 3861, i love the 321.

1William · 16 January 2021, 10:45 PM

The 3861 seems to be the choice for me.

gnuyork · 16 January 2021, 10:55 PM

I voted for the 3861, but I'd change that to the 321 if were easily available at MSRP.

MTdweller · 17 January 2021, 01:04 AM

At retail, the 3861 for sure.

logo · 17 January 2021, 01:22 AM

I voted 1863 as I prefer the overall watch compared to the 3863. Now movement wise the 321 is my choice and the finishing is amazing all around - if the purpose of the sapphire is to see the movement rather than the overall earth design, then that’s the winner by far. But at more than 2x the cost, you still get plenty speedmaster with the 1863. My preference also leans to having crown guards and the twisted lugs.

If there was a a remake of Buzz Aldrins/Neil Armstrong’s 105.012 with hesalite front, sapphire back, 321 hand finished, and original style bracelet and fauxtina dial, with accompanying moon/Apollo 11 memorabilia, I’d throw down cash in a hurry for that one.

Cassidy776 · 17 January 2021, 03:39 AM

I can pick up an 1863 from my AD for a 20%+ discount, $5000!!! (just picked up an 1861 for $4200). You'd be crazy to buy one at $6300!! 3863 will be discounted within a year and the 321, other than for serious collectors, doesn't seem like a viable choice,want or need for most.

cts · 17 January 2021, 07:24 AM

I love the now discontinued 1863. Solid proven movement and beautifully crafted and displayed. Discount if available is a plus!!!

FTX I · 17 January 2021, 07:29 AM

On leather strap I'd be tempted to get the 3861, but on bracelet I'd go with the 1863 no question. Although I like the 321, 'hard to get' is not my thing and I wouldn't be comfortable spending that much on one.

C0d · 17 January 2021, 07:35 AM

The poll is giving everyone a middle finger just like the moon watch ��

AJMarcus · 19 January 2021, 05:24 AM

I’d go for the 321. It’s the most unique modern Speedmaster with the classic Moonwatch movement that may not be around all that long. And the dimensions are perfect. Modern yet so very vintage too. Something tells me the production on these will be shortened down the road. Disclaimer: I have a 1861 and I’m on the waitlist for one.

gnuyork · 19 January 2021, 06:11 AM

I sent in my info through the Omega website to be notified for the 321. Not holding my breath, but if they do contact me... hell yeah.

texasmade · 19 January 2021, 06:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gnuyork

I sent in my info through the Omega website to be notified for the 321. Not holding my breath, but if they do contact me... hell yeah.

I'm surprised it's not "Contact your local Omega boutique" since basically only OB's are getting them at the moment and you need to put 100% deposit.

Alex_TA · 19 January 2021, 08:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1William

The 3861 seems to be the choice for me.

What he said

Oatmeal123 · 19 January 2021, 10:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cassidy776

I can pick up an 1863 from my AD for a 20%+ discount, $5000!!! (just picked up an 1861 for $4200). You'd be crazy to buy one at $6300!! 3863 will be discounted within a year and the 321, other than for serious collectors, doesn't seem like a viable choice,want or need for most.

Where have you heard that the 3863 will be discontinued?

aff1 · 19 January 2021, 10:36 AM

The 321 is a better choice to me.

gnuyork · 19 January 2021, 11:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by texasmade

I'm surprised it's not "Contact your local Omega boutique" since basically only OB's are getting them at the moment and you need to put 100% deposit.

I'm surprised too, but the option was there. i figured it couldn't hurt.

usmc_k9_vet · 19 January 2021, 02:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oatmeal123

Where have you heard that the 3863 will be discontinued?

It says discounted, not discontinued.

ratty · 25 January 2021, 07:00 AM

In general, when comparing the Sapphire version to the Hesalite version of the Speedmaster, is there a noticeable difference in the thicknesses of the watch?

Is the display case back thicker than the all metal version?

texasmade · 25 January 2021, 08:57 AM

According to Watchadvisor's video on the new Speedmasters, the increase thickness comes from the hesalite dome vs the more boxed sapphire.

ratty · 25 January 2021, 06:22 PM

So the Hesalite version is the thicker one, I thought it was the other way around!

Thanks for this.

gnuyork · 25 January 2021, 11:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ratty

So the Hesalite version is the thicker one, I thought it was the other way around!

Thanks for this.

For the 1861/3 this is true from what I understand, but on the new ones, the sapphire is thinner.

View Poll Results: Which Sapphire Sandwich Speedmaster Would You Choose?
1863 for $6,350	31	26.72%
3861 for $7,150	55	47.41%
321 for $14,100	30	25.86%
Voters: 116. You may not vote on this poll

16 January 2021, 06:55 PM	#1
Justindo "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2017 Location: California Posts: 2,176	Which Sapphire Moonwatch Would You Purchase? If you did not own a Speedmaster Professional Moonwatch Sapphire Sandwich and you wanted one, which one would you purchase and why?

25 January 2021, 07:00 AM	#19
ratty "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Real Name: Graham Location: UK Watch: Daytonas and Subs Posts: 2,644	In general, when comparing the Sapphire version to the Hesalite version of the Speedmaster, is there a noticeable difference in the thicknesses of the watch? Is the display case back thicker than the all metal version? Last edited by ratty; 25 January 2021 at 07:07 AM.. Reason: Adding word

Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Email this Page
Display Modes
Linear Mode Switch to Hybrid Mode Switch to Threaded Mode

16 January 2021, 08:37 PM	#2
greeneyedguy Banned Join Date: Aug 2017 Location: suffolk Posts: 419	I would purchase the 321. Look at them side by side. The 321 dial is less cluttered and far more attractive. The movement as well. I like the 3861, i love the 321.

16 January 2021, 10:45 PM	#3
1William 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: North Carolina Watch: Rolex/Others Posts: 44,616	The 3861 seems to be the choice for me.

16 January 2021, 10:55 PM	#4
gnuyork "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Marietta, GA Posts: 3,247	I voted for the 3861, but I'd change that to the 321 if were easily available at MSRP.

17 January 2021, 01:04 AM	#5
MTdweller "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2015 Real Name: Ty Location: West Coast Watch: the time fly! Posts: 1,475	At retail, the 3861 for sure.

17 January 2021, 01:22 AM	#6
logo "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2019 Location: North America Posts: 2,301	I voted 1863 as I prefer the overall watch compared to the 3863. Now movement wise the 321 is my choice and the finishing is amazing all around - if the purpose of the sapphire is to see the movement rather than the overall earth design, then that’s the winner by far. But at more than 2x the cost, you still get plenty speedmaster with the 1863. My preference also leans to having crown guards and the twisted lugs. If there was a a remake of Buzz Aldrins/Neil Armstrong’s 105.012 with hesalite front, sapphire back, 321 hand finished, and original style bracelet and fauxtina dial, with accompanying moon/Apollo 11 memorabilia, I’d throw down cash in a hurry for that one.

17 January 2021, 03:39 AM	#7
Cassidy776 Banned Join Date: Nov 2020 Location: Ventura County Posts: 197	I can pick up an 1863 from my AD for a 20%+ discount, $5000!!! (just picked up an 1861 for $4200). You'd be crazy to buy one at $6300!! 3863 will be discounted within a year and the 321, other than for serious collectors, doesn't seem like a viable choice,want or need for most.

17 January 2021, 07:24 AM	#8
cts "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2019 Location: USA Posts: 887	I love the now discontinued 1863. Solid proven movement and beautifully crafted and displayed. Discount if available is a plus!!!

17 January 2021, 07:29 AM	#9
FTX I "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2013 Real Name: Flavio Location: N/A Posts: 14,652	On leather strap I'd be tempted to get the 3861, but on bracelet I'd go with the 1863 no question. Although I like the 321, 'hard to get' is not my thing and I wouldn't be comfortable spending that much on one.

17 January 2021, 07:35 AM	#10
C0d Banned Join Date: Jun 2020 Location: Kanata Watch: Dog Posts: 815	The poll is giving everyone a middle finger just like the moon watch ��

19 January 2021, 05:24 AM	#11
AJMarcus "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Real Name: AJ Location: USA Watch: Swiss Posts: 5,205	I’d go for the 321. It’s the most unique modern Speedmaster with the classic Moonwatch movement that may not be around all that long. And the dimensions are perfect. Modern yet so very vintage too. Something tells me the production on these will be shortened down the road. Disclaimer: I have a 1861 and I’m on the waitlist for one.

19 January 2021, 06:11 AM	#12
gnuyork "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Marietta, GA Posts: 3,247	I sent in my info through the Omega website to be notified for the 321. Not holding my breath, but if they do contact me... hell yeah.

19 January 2021, 10:36 AM	#16
aff1 Banned Join Date: Dec 2019 Location: USA Posts: 126	The 321 is a better choice to me.

25 January 2021, 08:57 AM	#20
texasmade "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2017 Real Name: Robert Location: Lone Star State Watch: AP RO 15400, FOIS Posts: 2,333	According to Watchadvisor's video on the new Speedmasters, the increase thickness comes from the hesalite dome vs the more boxed sapphire.

25 January 2021, 06:22 PM	#21
ratty "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Real Name: Graham Location: UK Watch: Daytonas and Subs Posts: 2,644	So the Hesalite version is the thicker one, I thought it was the other way around! Thanks for this.

Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)