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17 January 2010, 08:57 AM | #1 |
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Patek Philippe watches - NON HACKING!
I was so shocked to learn that the Patek Philippe 5711 Nautilus is non hacking!
What's the reason for this? Surely to guage how accurate a movement can be, it needs the second hand to stop whilst setting the time...? Such a huge price for something generally considered "the best in the world" & it doesn't have this simple feature...??!
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17 January 2010, 01:07 PM | #2 |
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Amazes me, as well. I cannot for the life of me figure out why this is not a feature Patek would WANT to put on a watch.
It's for telling time, after all - and isn't it all about accuracy?
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17 January 2010, 02:22 PM | #3 |
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They probably figure that for someone who can afford a Patek, its never about accuracy since u can get a cheap quartz for that!
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This is surprising. However, the new chrono calibre is said to have hacking seconds...at least according to Luxist.
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Hmmm that surprises me and is a bit of a let down.
I wonder why.
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Hmmm that surprises me and is a bit of a let down.
I wonder why.
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18 January 2010, 02:16 AM | #7 |
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Probably an arbitrary decision that's never been challenged since no one has ever complained.
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Can someone explain hacking?
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When the crown is unscrewed to adjust the time or date it usually has two "clicks". Normally the first is for the date & the second for the time. When pulled for the time, the second hand should stop moving. Alot of us like to set the second hand at twelve to synchronize it with GMT (in the UK).
This way we can guage whether our pieces gain or lose time.
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So the second hand does not stop when the crown is fully pulled out correct?
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Not the best way to try to get accuracy.
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Someone at Timezone PP forum did a 2 week accuracy test between Lange 1 / PP 5711 / Rolex Sub (or GMT)...forgive me as I'm recalling this from memory
Lange 1 (purchased used and not serviced for several years) deviated about +15 seconds per day PP 5711 +10 seconds per day Rolex was about +4 seconds per day |
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The chairman of PP once said, "if we wanted them to hack, they would hack".
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I agree with the OP: A non-hacking movement can be pretty annoying when trying to set for the correct time.
I did not know this, but am rather surprised that such a modern-day, high-end manufacturer like PP would come up with a non-hacking movement in one of their Flagship models. JJ
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Thanks for the explanation... That said, I don't think it would deter me from a nautilus or a similar PP timepiece.
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Quick Review on the 5711s brother the 5712.When you pull the crown out it slows down the second hand which lets you set it pretty easily . Its not as easy as a Rolex but you get use to it. I checked my watch for accuracy and it was off 4 seconds in 10 days . The daily was running fast about 4 seconds and then slowed down a little when I laid it down at night. The watch is very accurate so far . Its a really nice watch that is very comfortable and the quality is top notch . I would highly recommend one
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Patek seems lazy with their movements. Non hacking and too small for the casein others (5196).
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The new movement does have the hacking feature. I prefer a watch with this function as it allows accurate setting. The Lange Perpetual actually resets to zero seconds when the crown is pulled out. A feature all watches should also have. Pain to wait on the seconds hand to set.
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Patek Philippe watches - NON HACKING!
If a couple of seconds count you don t deserve a Patek.
OP no worry, life is still okay even w/o hacking If u want perfection please buy a Toyota and a Seiko.
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It has never bothered me, I can apply back pressure to "hack" for timekeeping performance. The last time I checked my 5711 was +2 per day.
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