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LLPavorsky · 2 July 2014, 07:07 AM

Does anybody know what this is or have experienced it with their watch? It is like a coppery/pink color. Some kind of oxidation? Thank you for your attention, L.P.

ExplorerChris · 2 July 2014, 07:24 AM

Have you been around any kinds of chemicals or cleaning agents?

Laszlo · 2 July 2014, 07:57 AM

Geez... well, maybe it can be classified as patina... because it actually looks pretty good if it's aging a bit. (shrug)

T01 · 2 July 2014, 08:54 AM

Never seen anything like that before, a chemical of sometime could have discolored it? Beyond that I really do not know. I'm sure RSC or potentially a watchmaker familiar with the ceramic bezels could explain it.

sleddog · 2 July 2014, 08:57 AM

And it's not coming off with a wash in soapy water?

IAN1 · 2 July 2014, 09:07 AM

That's weird

GradyPhilpott · 2 July 2014, 10:14 AM

Have you thought of using a liquid jewelry cleaner?

tkerrmd · 2 July 2014, 11:17 AM

Never seen that

I would wash with soft brush and soap, if doesn't come off getting a new bezel would be expensive

ltmgeller · 2 July 2014, 11:29 AM

I'd bring it by a RSC for analysis.

Onikage · 2 July 2014, 11:33 AM

Possibly a chemical reaction. Who knows with what as gold is very unreactive. Or it could be a latent flaw in the mixture used, like a vein/patch of coppery gold that has become more apparent with wear. Though I'm not familiar with the technicalities of Rolex's particle blasting process.

MortgageGuy · 2 July 2014, 12:17 PM

Another vote for a good bath and have never seen anything like this either.

venom43 · 2 July 2014, 03:04 PM

I haven't seen it on gold ceramic....but the gold bezel if the YM I've seen it. Usually when someone uses a polishing cloth...it discolors the gold beaded part.

padi56 · 2 July 2014, 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Onikage

Possibly a chemical reaction. Who knows with what as gold is very unreactive. Or it could be a latent flaw in the mixture used, like a vein/patch of coppery gold that has become more apparent with wear. Though I'm not familiar with the technicalities of Rolex's particle blasting process.

Thats quite possible the gold in very much like a PVD coating a few microns thick. If it does not wash off with soap and water I would take it back to the AD.

LLPavorsky · 5 July 2014, 01:28 PM

All good now. Had my watchmaker clean it with a Tripoli cloth and a burr.

ExplorerChris · 5 July 2014, 01:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LLPavorsky

All good now. Had my watchmaker clean it with a Tripoli cloth and a burr.

Did he give an idea as to what the cause was?

1995akcoop · 5 July 2014, 01:31 PM

yea, what was it?

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LLPavorsky · 5 July 2014, 01:31 PM

He said he never saw anything like it before. Some kind of chemical reaction.

ExplorerChris · 5 July 2014, 01:35 PM

More importantly it's been taken care of

GradyPhilpott · 5 July 2014, 01:57 PM

Personally, it looks better, but I can still see some discoloration.

HogwldFLTR · 5 July 2014, 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by gradyphilpott

personally, it looks better, but i can still see some discoloration.

+1

Keith1 · 5 July 2014, 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by gradyphilpott

personally, it looks better, but i can still see some discoloration.

+2. Looks better, but did they also see it is not all cleaned up? As Peter pointed out, "it's very much like a PVD coating a few microns thick." Rolex does use 18k gold on the numbers.

2 July 2014, 07:07 AM	#1
LLPavorsky "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2009 Real Name: Lee Pavorsky Location: Philadelphia, PA Watch: RG SKY-DWELLER Posts: 445	Discoloration in Gold of Ceramic bezel insert Does anybody know what this is or have experienced it with their watch? It is like a coppery/pink color. Some kind of oxidation? Thank you for your attention, L.P. __________________ On the hunt for the next one...... 216570 SS Explorer II Black Dial 116688 Yellow gold YachtMaster II New 326935 Sky-Dweller Rose Gold Choc Dial New BNIB DSSD Deep Blue Scrambled Serial# New YachtMaster Platinum and Stainless F Serial# New My 2004 40th Bday present is my son's college graduation present in 2018! IWJG MEMBER#6219

2 July 2014, 07:24 AM	#2
ExplorerChris "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2014 Real Name: Chris Location: Ontario, Canada Watch: Explorer II 16550 Posts: 1,401	Have you been around any kinds of chemicals or cleaning agents? __________________ There's a crown for every achievement A Watch Is Just A Watch A Rolex Is A Timepiece

2 July 2014, 07:57 AM	#3
Laszlo 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: San Francisco, CA Watch: Date & No Date Posts: 10,856	Geez... well, maybe it can be classified as patina... because it actually looks pretty good if it's aging a bit. (shrug) __________________ "You might as well question why we breathe. If we stop breathing, we'll die. If we stop fighting our enemies, the world will die." Paul Henreid as Victor Laszlo in Casablanca

2 July 2014, 08:57 AM	#5
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2 July 2014, 10:14 AM	#7
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2 July 2014, 08:54 AM	#4
T01 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Real Name: T Location: AZ, NV, CA Posts: 6,481	Never seen anything like that before, a chemical of sometime could have discolored it? Beyond that I really do not know. I'm sure RSC or potentially a watchmaker familiar with the ceramic bezels could explain it.

2 July 2014, 09:07 AM	#6
IAN1 "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: California Watch: A Rolex of course. Posts: 1,048	That's weird

2 July 2014, 11:17 AM	#8
tkerrmd "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Real Name: Tom Location: In a race car! Watch: ME RACE PORSCHES Posts: 24,123	Never seen that I would wash with soft brush and soap, if doesn't come off getting a new bezel would be expensive

2 July 2014, 11:29 AM	#9
ltmgeller 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Real Name: Mike Location: New York Watch: Rolex Posts: 21,373	I'd bring it by a RSC for analysis.

2 July 2014, 11:33 AM	#10
Onikage "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: England Watch: 16710, 16628 Posts: 7,758	Possibly a chemical reaction. Who knows with what as gold is very unreactive. Or it could be a latent flaw in the mixture used, like a vein/patch of coppery gold that has become more apparent with wear. Though I'm not familiar with the technicalities of Rolex's particle blasting process. __________________ GMT II 16710 TRADITIONAL ( D- Serial #) ROLEXFANBOY P-Club Member #4

2 July 2014, 12:17 PM	#11
MortgageGuy "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Real Name: Adam Location: Orlando, Florida Watch: Me Posts: 9,935	Another vote for a good bath and have never seen anything like this either. __________________ The richest people in the world look for and build NETWORKS, Everyone else looks for work... Robert Kiyosaki

2 July 2014, 03:04 PM	#12
venom43 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: NOR-CAL Watch: Grail Daytona Posts: 1,306	I haven't seen it on gold ceramic....but the gold bezel if the YM I've seen it. Usually when someone uses a polishing cloth...it discolors the gold beaded part. __________________ ROLEX:(116200)SS DATEJUST,(216570)SS EXPLORER II "POLAR",(116518-0073)YG DAYTONA,(116718)YG GMT MASTER IIc,(16610)SS SUBMARINER 50th LV,(16623)TT YACHT-MASTER ~BREITLING:SUPER OCEAN 44 ~JLC:NAVY SEALs ~OMEGA:PLANET OCEAN "LIQUIDMETAL LE" & (2201.51),SPEEEDMASTER PRO "METEORITE DIAL",SEAMASTER PRO GMT "GREAT WHITE" ~TUDOR:BLACK BAY(R)

5 July 2014, 01:28 PM	#14
LLPavorsky "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2009 Real Name: Lee Pavorsky Location: Philadelphia, PA Watch: RG SKY-DWELLER Posts: 445	All good now. Had my watchmaker clean it with a Tripoli cloth and a burr. __________________ On the hunt for the next one...... 216570 SS Explorer II Black Dial 116688 Yellow gold YachtMaster II New 326935 Sky-Dweller Rose Gold Choc Dial New BNIB DSSD Deep Blue Scrambled Serial# New YachtMaster Platinum and Stainless F Serial# New My 2004 40th Bday present is my son's college graduation present in 2018! IWJG MEMBER#6219

5 July 2014, 01:31 PM	#16
1995akcoop "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2013 Location: Maryland Posts: 2,160	yea, what was it? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

5 July 2014, 01:35 PM	#18
ExplorerChris "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2014 Real Name: Chris Location: Ontario, Canada Watch: Explorer II 16550 Posts: 1,401	More importantly it's been taken care of __________________ There's a crown for every achievement A Watch Is Just A Watch A Rolex Is A Timepiece

5 July 2014, 01:57 PM	#19
GradyPhilpott 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: New Mexico Watch: 116710 BLNR Posts: 34,347	Personally, it looks better, but I can still see some discoloration. __________________ JJ Inaugural TRF $50 Watch Challenge Winner

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