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AJC · 15 April 2006, 06:37 PM

Hey Guys,

Saw this just before and thought it was unusual.I not sure if it is real but hey it sure would be intersting to hear peoples thoughts on the subject.

Here is a brief summary fro the Ebay listing.

The item for auction is a Rare Vintage Rolex Military Dial with the Sultan of Oman symbol. The dial fits 1680 submarine and 1665 Sea Dweller. This dial is professionally refinished . Excellent condition, no marks or fading.

Aaron

Click on image to enlarge.

padi56 · 15 April 2006, 06:59 PM

In 1970, Qaboos bin Said Al Said ousted his father and has ruled as sultan of Oman ever since.The British (SAS) and several Arab Nations sent well-trained forces to assist the Sultan, and the rebels were defeated. Legend has it that the Special Forces suffered heavy losses, and only 7 Special Forces Officers survived. As a token of his appreciation, Sultan Qaboos bin Said Al Said presented them each with a Rolex Sea Dweller ref 1665 with the Nations Coat of Arms printed on the dial in Gold. Also several Local Officers were presented with a Rolex Sea Dweller ref 1665 with the Nations Coat of Arms printed on the dial in Red. I am not sure how many of these were issued.Many middle east
sultans had there coat of arms added to Rolex watches, in fact there is
a special department in Rolex H/Q to oversee these matters.During the 1970s and 1980s it was not only Subs and Sea-Dwellers. They came in Presidents, Datejusts , Dates, turongraphs, and Airkings. Back in that era it was quite common for the Middle Eastern Kings to display their names and Family and counties Symbols all over watches, cars etc
to these people money was know object.

Unfortunately due to the rarity and the huge demand of these watches from collectors and investors, many fake dials have appeared in the market place.The only true way to check if you have a genuine Oman
Rolex is a movement and serial check with Rolex.A dial on its own is
completely useless,to a serious collector,unless he has the correct case serial, movement etc matching to a Oman watch or any other middle east sultan, or kings coat of arms, in the Rolex data base.What the emblem of Oman shows is a Gambia (Arabian dagger with sheath) in front of two crossed curved swords, covered with an arms-belt.

AJC · 16 April 2006, 06:14 AM

Wow Padi,

Very informative and quite intersesting,thanks.

Aaron

Prince · 16 April 2006, 06:31 AM

Absolutely fascinating! Thanks for that marvelous dissertation on a very esoteric subject, padi.

Since I became intrigued by this entire discussion, I found a few examples of these watches. I especially like the Daytona, don't ya know!

Earl · 16 April 2006, 09:30 AM

I loved that history lesson for sure!!! Great info Padi :o)

Earl · 16 April 2006, 09:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AJC

Hey Guys,

Saw this just before and thought it was unusual.I not sure if it is real but hey it sure would be intersting to hear peoples thoughts on the subject.

Here is a brief summary fro the Ebay listing.

The item for auction is a Rare Vintage Rolex Military Dial with the Sultan of Oman symbol. The dial fits 1680 submarine and 1665 Sea Dweller. This dial is professionally refinished . Excellent condition, no marks or fading.

Aaron

Click on image to enlarge.

I have a problem with "This dial is professionally refinished." What was changed, is the dial only a older sub and it was redialed or refinnished to make it rare? If there are limited watches in circulation then yes they or it the watch becomes rare as that dial was made for that watch no extra dials were ordered as I'm sure Rolex would not sell (even to the rich). That dial will give someone the oppurtunity to tell some good stories. OOppss!!!

my 2 pennies ;o)

kingblackbolt · 16 April 2006, 09:59 AM

Wow Padi that was a very well done essay.. I give you a solid A.

I have seen a few of these on Ebay over the years but didn't think too much of their collectability or authenticity until reading Padi's dissertation. Next to the "Domino's Pizza" Air King this watch would be an interesting coversation piece!

dman · 16 April 2006, 10:18 AM

Thanks for sharing Aaron and Padi, nice info.

JJ Irani · 16 April 2006, 04:35 PM

Thanks for the info, Padi!!! Nice!

padi56 · 16 April 2006, 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Prince

Absolutely fascinating! Thanks for that marvelous dissertation on a very esoteric subject, padi.

Since I became intrigued by this entire discussion, I found a few examples of these watches. I especially like the Daytona, don't ya know!

Now that Daytona when properly authenticated,would cost telephone numbers now.

JJ Irani · 16 April 2006, 06:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by padi56

Now that Daytona when properly authenticated,would cost telephone numbers now.

What number should I dial, Padi?

Prince · 16 April 2006, 11:14 PM

Dial 64 9 123 4567 - the recording will say "Sorry, JJ. You can't afford this watch!"

JJ Irani · 17 April 2006, 05:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Prince

Dial 64 9 123 4567 - the recording will say "Sorry, JJ. You can't afford this watch!"

Prince · 17 April 2006, 05:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Prince

Dial 64 9 123 4567 - the recording will say "Sorry, JJ. You can't afford this watch!"

Quote:

Originally Posted by JJ Irani

padi56 · 17 April 2006, 09:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Prince

Dial 64 9 123 4567 - the recording will say "Sorry, JJ. You can't afford this watch!"

Thats for sure Allen,don't think theres many who could.

15 April 2006, 06:59 PM	#2
padi56 "TRF" Life Patron Join Date: Jun 2005 Real Name: Peter Location: Llanfairpwllgwyng Watch: ing you. Posts: 52,260	In 1970, Qaboos bin Said Al Said ousted his father and has ruled as sultan of Oman ever since.The British (SAS) and several Arab Nations sent well-trained forces to assist the Sultan, and the rebels were defeated. Legend has it that the Special Forces suffered heavy losses, and only 7 Special Forces Officers survived. As a token of his appreciation, Sultan Qaboos bin Said Al Said presented them each with a Rolex Sea Dweller ref 1665 with the Nations Coat of Arms printed on the dial in Gold. Also several Local Officers were presented with a Rolex Sea Dweller ref 1665 with the Nations Coat of Arms printed on the dial in Red. I am not sure how many of these were issued.Many middle east sultans had there coat of arms added to Rolex watches, in fact there is a special department in Rolex H/Q to oversee these matters.During the 1970s and 1980s it was not only Subs and Sea-Dwellers. They came in Presidents, Datejusts , Dates, turongraphs, and Airkings. Back in that era it was quite common for the Middle Eastern Kings to display their names and Family and counties Symbols all over watches, cars etc to these people money was know object. Unfortunately due to the rarity and the huge demand of these watches from collectors and investors, many fake dials have appeared in the market place.The only true way to check if you have a genuine Oman Rolex is a movement and serial check with Rolex.A dial on its own is completely useless,to a serious collector,unless he has the correct case serial, movement etc matching to a Oman watch or any other middle east sultan, or kings coat of arms, in the Rolex data base.What the emblem of Oman shows is a Gambia (Arabian dagger with sheath) in front of two crossed curved swords, covered with an arms-belt. __________________ ICom Pro3 All posts are my own opinion and my opinion only. "The clock of life is wound but once, and no man has the power to tell just when the hands will stop. Now is the only time you actually own the time, Place no faith in time, for the clock may soon be still for ever." Good Judgement comes from experience,experience comes from Bad Judgement,.Buy quality, cry once; buy cheap, cry again and again. www.mc0yad.club Second in command CEO and left handed watch winder

16 April 2006, 06:31 AM	#4
Prince "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Real Name: Allan Location: St. Augustine, FL Watch: Daytona/Sub/GMT/DJ Posts: 20,323	Absolutely fascinating! Thanks for that marvelous dissertation on a very esoteric subject, padi. Since I became intrigued by this entire discussion, I found a few examples of these watches. I especially like the Daytona, don't ya know! __________________ Member: Rolex Keeper's Society "You see, you can't please everyone, so you got to please yourself." - Rick Nelson Last edited by Prince; 16 April 2006 at 06:50 AM..

16 April 2006, 10:18 AM	#8
dman Lifetime TRF Patron Join Date: May 2005 Real Name: Daren Location: Austin Watch: the road Posts: 13,583	Thanks for sharing Aaron and Padi, nice info. __________________ You either get it or you don't, if you have to ask, YOU DON'T!! I really hope that midget cop doesn't find me in Kokomo.

16 April 2006, 04:35 PM	#9
JJ Irani Fondly Remembered Join Date: May 2005 Real Name: JJ Location: Auckland, NZ Watch: ALL SOLD!! Posts: 74,320	Thanks for the info, Padi!!! Nice! __________________ Words fail me in expressing my utmost thanks to ALL of you for this wonderful support during my hour of need!! I firmly believe that my time on planet earth is NOT yet up!! I shall fight this to the very end.......and WIN!!

16 April 2006, 11:14 PM	#12
Prince "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Real Name: Allan Location: St. Augustine, FL Watch: Daytona/Sub/GMT/DJ Posts: 20,323	Dial 64 9 123 4567 - the recording will say "Sorry, JJ. You can't afford this watch!" __________________ Member: Rolex Keeper's Society "You see, you can't please everyone, so you got to please yourself." - Rick Nelson

16 April 2006, 06:14 AM	#3
AJC "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Australia Posts: 1,878	Wow Padi, Very informative and quite intersesting,thanks. Aaron

16 April 2006, 09:30 AM	#5
Earl "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2005 Real Name: Who Me? Location: Northern Virginia Watch: out Posts: 4,616	I loved that history lesson for sure!!! Great info Padi :o)

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