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Old 11 September 2019, 07:59 AM   #1
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The all-new Land Rover Defender.

Love the classic Defender. What's your take on the new one?

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Old 11 September 2019, 08:23 AM   #2
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I like the small one.
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Old 11 September 2019, 08:38 AM   #3
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Been waiting for this for years. A lot to process. Tempted to order but the usual fears of spending long afternoons staring at vintage snow shoes and drinking shit coffee in the service department have me second guessing.
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Old 11 September 2019, 08:38 AM   #4
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Meh...2 door could have been so much better and open air like the original.
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Old 11 September 2019, 08:40 AM   #5
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No way. I knew that they would tart it all up.
Loaded is in the 80’s. Hard pass. I’m glad I didn’t wait.
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Old 11 September 2019, 08:44 AM   #6
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The 90 is awesome like the classic. Not sure the new one will be as tough as the old one though.
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Old 11 September 2019, 08:55 AM   #7
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This will take some time to process and may need to see it in person. On first look, I really dislike like the exterior design and keeps me longing for the prior gen. Mercedes is able to balance luxury with a boxy old school design with the g wagon, not so much with new D90/110. Feels like a techy/hipster ride vs an off-road tool... I know most don’t off-road, but I do.
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Old 11 September 2019, 09:03 AM   #8
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I saw this earlier. I’m very much not a fan.
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Old 11 September 2019, 09:06 AM   #9
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I like it, but I will always prefer the old Defender.
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Old 11 September 2019, 09:09 AM   #10
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Looks like RR did to the Defender what Rolex did to the Submariner.

Probably a better vehicle overall but something was lost.

Like? Some will, some won't.
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Old 11 September 2019, 09:14 AM   #11
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I like it, but I will always prefer the old Defender.
Agree. However the classic is a pain to drive IMO.
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Old 11 September 2019, 09:26 AM   #12
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It’s OK. Like the front bench seat option.

Gimme a used FJ any day.
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Old 11 September 2019, 09:32 AM   #13
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Looks terrible, IMO. Kia Soul knockoff.
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Old 11 September 2019, 10:36 AM   #14
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The new design abandons the rich legacy of the original. It looks like a Scion or Kia Soul but likely without their reliability. MB did the 2019 G Wagon exceptionally well as they created the first meaningful update in 30 years while remaining true to its heritage. Anyone remember the Mustang II, an abysmal iteration of the legacy Stang?
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Old 11 September 2019, 11:25 AM   #15
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I wanted not to hate it but it's not tall, utilitarian and with straight axles. Those are the things I liked most about the previous generations. Do they even know/care why people liked the old ones?
Sigh, I'm sure this will be a big hit at the mall.
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Old 11 September 2019, 11:32 AM   #16
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Missed a big opportunity- not a fan of the new ones.
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Old 11 September 2019, 11:39 AM   #17
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I like it, but I will always prefer the old Defender.
⬆️⬆️⬆️ Exactly!
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Old 11 September 2019, 11:40 AM   #18
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Been waiting for this for years. A lot to process. Tempted to order but the usual fears of spending long afternoons staring at vintage snow shoes and drinking shit coffee in the service department have me second guessing.


Lol! Made me laugh Tom. First model year will be a disaster with issues. You may need to pack a lunch when bringing it in for service...your LC is bullet proof.


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Old 11 September 2019, 01:01 PM   #19
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Love the old ones, this is just fugly
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Old 11 September 2019, 02:13 PM   #20
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The technology is impressive, but the aesthetics... S O F T.
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Old 11 September 2019, 02:27 PM   #21
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That thing is absolutely painful to look at. How disastrous.
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Old 11 September 2019, 05:42 PM   #22
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Ford Motor Company called and wants their Flex back !

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Old 11 September 2019, 06:15 PM   #23
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Excellent car, but not a fan. I had a Defender 90 and loved it for what it was, a genuine workhorse. The new Defender is supremely capable, but it’s now an expensive lifestyle vehicle, which isn’t for me.


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Old 11 September 2019, 06:41 PM   #24
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I couldn't get past this photo in the article....


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Old 11 September 2019, 06:51 PM   #25
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The whole line got strange..

The LR3/4/Disco was basically turned into a slightly larger Evoque, and now this new Defender has turned into a slightly smaller LR3/4/Disco. Essentially the brand neutered both of their “rugged” platforms.
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Old 11 September 2019, 07:11 PM   #26
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I think Mercedes did a better job with the New G Wagon.
The new defender doesn’t seem “tough” enough
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Old 11 September 2019, 09:21 PM   #27
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Not a fan with the release pictures. The vehicle could grow on me in the future but I had a very bad ownership experience with RR and will never go back. There are a lot of alternatives that do it better at the same price point and are reliable and maintain some resale value.
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Old 11 September 2019, 10:48 PM   #28
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Easy pass for me.
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Old 11 September 2019, 11:03 PM   #29
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Old 11 September 2019, 11:24 PM   #30
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If the top isn't removable, I am not a fan. I think they missed the boat on this one.
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