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Old 20 November 2018, 02:30 PM   #31
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No such issues on my Omega.....
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Old 20 November 2018, 02:37 PM   #32
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It has a Triploc crown....

Maybe the paint hasn't dried yet!
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Old 20 November 2018, 02:48 PM   #33
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Yep. Every time I pick up a loupe, it turns out to be a mistake. I’ve put the loupe down for good!


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I don't mess with loupe's either - just a recipe for disaster for my mind.
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Old 20 November 2018, 04:25 PM   #34
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It is blurry when zooming in ..no macro lense
So here is one for you

that's a heat blued hand, not a painted hand....
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Old 20 November 2018, 05:13 PM   #35
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The paint on that GS GMT hand is not the best.
Agreed. But is it worth any hassle to get replaced?
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Old 20 November 2018, 05:37 PM   #36
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Hand painted guys. Try it and then complain
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Old 20 November 2018, 09:16 PM   #37
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GS has plenty of issues, but Hodinkee has done a great job touting them as superior to Swiss, which is really not the case for anyone who has actually bought a few watches.
I am a Rolex fanboy but truth be told;
In the late 60's Seiko blew away many Swiss brands including Rolex in their own contests in their own country. The superiority of Seiko was so shameful to the Swiss that the contests were terminated.
All this happened long before the internet and when Mr. Clymer was wearing diapers btw.

There is no denying that the quality of GS is superior to a Rolex if you look objectively at innovation, accuracy, dials, case and movement finishing.

As for marketing, styling and brand recognition that is something Rolex does extremely well.

GS just started to venture outside Japan and is not yet very well known outside the WIS world. Once people see beyond it's name and recognise the quality, GS may easily become a big player outside Japan as well.
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Old 20 November 2018, 09:26 PM   #38
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To my eyes, the brush tip that the technician used on the GMT hand in the pics the OP posted had not been properly “pointed”. So a stray brush hair or two made contact with the white gold beyond the area to be painted.
They're likely painted by machine, not by hand. There's no way they could mass produce enough parts by hand and with consistency. What you see is likely paint splatter from a transfer process.
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Old 20 November 2018, 11:15 PM   #39
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They're likely painted by machine, not by hand. There's no way they could mass produce enough parts by hand and with consistency. What you see is likely paint splatter from a transfer process.
I am not so sure, while I would be inclined to agree with you, I also think it wouldn't be hard to turn out a massively large number of hand-painted parts.
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Old 20 November 2018, 11:19 PM   #40
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My 1984 GMT hand is the same way.

Put the loupe down before you poke your eye out.
You win the internet today lol
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Old 20 November 2018, 11:46 PM   #41
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The GMT hand on my Batman was just as bad - I took it to the Service Centre a week after buying it as it was just bugging the heck out of me...they gave me a choice of 4-5 hands they had in stock and told me to pick one...truth be told, they were may be just a little better, but at least one was sort of OK, far from perfect still...very sloppy and uneven paint application - when comparing it with AP or, say, Blancpain, there is no competition under the loupe...Rolex loses pretty quickly. Well it is what it is I guess - and MRRP on these watches is double (or 3.5 times, in case of the AP) so I am not too upset but just wish it was done better, even for a daily beater.
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Old 20 November 2018, 11:58 PM   #42
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ERROR HAND!

Worth more!!

Exactly.


Next rant thread: Rsc won’t let me keep the parts.
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Old 21 November 2018, 01:45 AM   #43
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It is blurry when zooming in ..no macro lense
So here is one for you

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Your second pix shows a GMT hand in one colour and therefore there is no issue with a defining edge.

Your first pix shows GMT hand with a red border ad the outside bottom edge of that border is very rough.

Having said that - the GMT hand on my GMT is a bit rough on the edge.


How do you see very rough edges on a blurry pic ...that is just priceless . There are no rough edges no missing paint no sloppy work . The blurry edges are just that blurry under a loup it is spot on and so is the lume application . Wish I had a better lense to show

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Old 21 November 2018, 01:47 AM   #44
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To my eyes, the brush tip that the technician used on the GMT hand in the pics the OP posted had not been properly “pointed”. So a stray brush hair or two made contact with the white gold beyond the area to be painted.

What looks good is the watch - this slight issue wouldn’t trigger a request from me to change the GMT hand even if I could have seen it.

Loupey Lou’s look for little things and miss the big picture methinks.




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This is unacceptable. I thought the hands were sprayed or “dipped” into the paint for perfect uniformity.
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Old 21 November 2018, 01:54 AM   #45
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There is no denying that the quality of GS is superior to a Rolex if you look objectively at innovation, accuracy, dials, case and movement finishing.



As for marketing, styling and brand recognition that is something Rolex does extremely well.



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^this
I also own a few Rolex and only experiences two GS longer term one sbgm027 and the one in the pic that is on loan to me. To objectively say that any of my Rolex (expII new one , 16710 and SD) are better finished than the GS form dial to case to hand would be lying to myself .
I have no issue saying the Gs at half the price of any ss sport Rolex is by far better made and they should be they make 20,000 -30,0000 a year vs 1 mil.
The next thing that comes up is usually the bracelet which is also superbly finished on the sbge201 as comfortable as the oyster with zero play and superb brushed vs polished accent. No GS fan boy but it is good to step back and look at the forest for the trees once in a while
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Old 21 November 2018, 02:23 AM   #47
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Rolex makes mass produced watches and they have an incredible marketing team. On a mass produced watch at a lower price point, these kind of quality control issues are more expected.

Rolex is trying to move out of the mid-tier to lower top-tier pricing but it doesn't have the quality (yet, ever?) to justify a move in that direction. But it does have the branding to justify that move.

As it moves out of the mid-tier pricing it's moving Tudor into the space it left behind.
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Old 21 November 2018, 02:26 AM   #48
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I just meticulously checked my new BLRO 126710. No such defects.
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Old 21 November 2018, 02:30 AM   #49
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I will personally issue a refund full retail price for any GMT Pepsi 2018 with such horrible unacceptable paint job. Please make sure to send box and paper
Thanks and apologies for any inconvenience
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Old 21 November 2018, 02:43 AM   #50
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Maybe you should buy a tudor
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Old 21 November 2018, 03:02 AM   #51
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Interesting...the green gmt hand on my LN is flawless.


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Old 21 November 2018, 03:03 AM   #52
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that's a heat blued hand, not a painted hand....


Indeed but it puts details in perspective
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Old 21 November 2018, 03:05 AM   #53
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No such issues on my Omega.....

And yet demand is nil
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Old 21 November 2018, 03:16 AM   #54
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If you focus too much on a watch or other people's actions, you will soon get disappointed. Personally, I believe that this is too much of a mistake for such a watch, unless it is not a genuine one!!
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Old 21 November 2018, 05:55 AM   #55
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When you make so many watches, it's impossible for everything to be perfect.

Meh, it happens. What people really need to learn is that Rolex does not make watches that are meant to be scrutinized under a loupe.

That's not great however and should not have gotten passed QC.
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Old 21 November 2018, 06:02 AM   #56
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Meh, it happens. What people really need to learn is that Rolex does not make watches that are meant to be scrutinized under a loupe.
Spot on.
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Old 21 November 2018, 07:15 AM   #57
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ERROR HAND!

Worth more!!
Exactly what I was thinking... give it 25 years and it will be 4x the price of a standard piece. Probably call it the "Bloody GMT" or something stupid.

On a separate note, I can't find anything on my green arrow hand of my LN... Guess I lucked out...
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Old 21 November 2018, 07:23 AM   #58
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The people who are complaining (I'm not saying you are wrong), do you like old vintage watches, guitars, cars, ... as well?
Everyone knows how they made products back in the day and there were slight errors or mishaps (that turned out to be loved). People like how a steel bezel changes colour etc. I hope you catch my drift.

I agree some things need to be perfect, but some things I can appreciate because you see how it's made or how it is. I don't want everything to be (too) identical.
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Old 21 November 2018, 07:35 AM   #59
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If this is real and I spent $10000.00 on a watch, I expect perfection. Sorry but we are not talking about watches in the $100 range so quality needs to be perfect.
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Old 21 November 2018, 07:38 AM   #60
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