Tudor Submariner - Top 5 Reasons to Own One

[J!m]

Originally Posted by aeon888

I don't have a Tudor but I like the NO date Black bays. This would have been my next purchase until that new Omega Seamaster 300 came last Basel 2014. Need to get that Omega then the Tudor later. ;)

Oh, yeah. That Omega is Killer! I just wish they had done the original style bezel with the triangle of the bezel overhanging the crystal like the first gen it closely resembles... But I still want one!

[jason42807]

Great Post on Tudor timepieces!

[watchwatcher]

Good reasons..it's a great watch.

[boost2perfection]

I want a blue tudor sub

[boost2perfection]

Mine not as old but I respect Tudor a lot more now that I own 2 black bays

[bgbg13]

Originally Posted by boost2perfection

I want a blue tudor sub

Any reason to repost this pic. I love this watch!!!

[craniotes]

Love me a Tudor:



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Adam

[Kev2016]

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[Rolex fan 61]

Thank you

[JohnnyNoDate]

Ironic now...

Vintage Tudor Sub's and Black Bay's are on fire in 2016...

[eco8gator]

Love my 94010 Snowflake.

The love the clean no date dial and the snowflake hands.

The value of these pieces is amazingly high these days with prices that rival the holes case pre-ceramic sports pieces from Rolex.

[RCAFBuster]

I love my Tudor Subs, all with Military Provenance.
Buster

[cornerstore]

Originally Posted by RCAFBuster

I love my Tudor Subs, all with Military Provenance.
Buster

Very nice collection!

[ILuvSubs]

Holy thread revival!

I like the blue dial, blue bezel, patina and military history behind the Tudor snowflake MNs

Unfortunately these vintage Tudors are now way too pricey and can be a bit of a minefield to collect with the potential for fake MNs without decommissioning papers and appropriate provenance.

[AK797]

Think the forum has come a long way since then, no one refers to Tudors as a bastard child any more.

[Tritto]

Well if we're going to reopen the thread... here's what I'm wearing today.

I read this old thread with interest during the long wait getting this one serviced.


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[donoman]

Wasn't on the lookout for a Tudor but this one ended up on my wrist yesterday!
Going to look for some different strap/bracelet options.
The serial number dates it to 1989.

[Glidelock]

I'm actually liking this thread, and hoping it stays live! Experience however m, tells me it will not. So in that case I only have to say...IBTL!

[Eva123]

Originally Posted by dlack

There has been a fair bit of Tudor Submariner bashing on this and other fora lately, with comments so bold (some might say, ignorant) as to refer to the Tudor Sub as the "bastard child" of the Rolex Sub.

What follows are the top 5 reasons that one might actually consider the Tudor Sub over it's Rolex counterpart:

1. LOOK, FEEL & QUALITY: Full-size Tudor Subs, both vintage (7016, 7928, 9411) and more modern (79090, 79190), have generally resembled in style, look, feel and quality, their Rolex counterparts, at a slightly more affordable price-point. They were made by Rolex, and don't let anyone tell you that manufacturing standards for the Tudor line are any less than Rolex standards.

2. MOVEMENT: [Let's exclude the FEF 390 movements found in the very early 7928 Subs of the 1950's era, as parts are very difficult to source for that movement.] The ETA 2824-2 movements commonly found in the more modern Tudor Subs (and even the earlier ETA 2483 in the 7016 Sub, and the ETA 2784 in the 9411 Sub, and their non-date variants) are veritable tried and true workhorses. Yes, they're not Rolex in-house movements, but they're capable of maintaining COSC-accurate time (mine does), and were certainly good enough for Rolex, with its own exacting standards, to incorporate into its Tudor Subs (with some tweaking and adornments distinctive to the Rolex brand). That's darn good enough for me. Is the vintage Rolex Daytona -- arguably among the most sought-after Rolex models, ever -- any less a Rolex because it did not have an "in-house" Rolex movement, but rather a Zenith movement? Indeed, the Zenith El Primero movements that Rolex used were so well-respected as being among the best-made chronograph movements, that vintage Rolex Daytonas today command among the highest values in the marketplace. (Not comparing the El Primero to the ETA 2824-2; just making the point that when Rolex has chosen ebauche movements to assimilate with its brand, it has chosen carefully and well.)(I'm also quite aware that the newer Daytona movements are being produced by Rolex in-house.)

3. VARIATIONS: Certain aestetic variants of the Tudor Subs, such as the blue dial/blue bezel Subs, and the Snowflake Subs, are in fact distinctive in that historically they have had no Rolex Sub equivalent. Classic Tudor Subs, on the other hand, meaning those whose dials and hands closely resemble their Rolex counterparts, are less distinctive of the Tudor brand, and still every bit a Rolex, expecially those with the Rolex signage on the crowns and case backs.

4. REPAIR AND PARTS REPLACEMENT: The ETA 2824-2 is readily and cost-effectively repairable by any competent watchmak, and parts are easily sourced. On the other hand, Rolex in-house movements and parts have become so proprietary that competent independent watchmakers will only service them to the extent that parts are either not required or are available in the grey or black market. Rolex will not service vintages beyond a certain age so one is left to the independents and to the hope that parts will be available and marginally affordable --- never a worry with an ETA-based Tudor, and will not be a worry for many, many years to come.

5. VALUE: Have you noticed the values that Tudor Subs are commanding on the secondary market? Selling prices almost rival those for Rolex Subs. Overpriced you say? Last time I checked, market demand establishes the value for pre-loved Tudor Subs, not the seller. So...why are these Subs commanding such enviable margins? Simple: They're great-looking classic timepieces with an undeniable quality- and prestige-based Rolex heritage; they're long out of production; and their movements are eminently and cost-effectively servicable. Moreover, they were never replaced by Rolex, as no one would seriously suggest that the Hydronaut -- the progeny to the Sub -- measures up to the Sub's classic lines, historic tradition and some might say, cult-like status). People recognize the history and value of the Tudor Sub, and they want it enough that they'll pay a premium to get it...just like other objects of desire. It's that simple.

Sir, very nice and interesting thread. I fully agree with you

[EddyG]

love the rolex submariner but think these are horrible, somethings just off like the dimensions of the bezel and other things make it look strange

[dominic.warren]

Originally Posted by EddyG

love the rolex submariner but think these are horrible, somethings just off like the dimensions of the bezel and other things make it look strange

I hate Tudor subs too here's a pic to prove it. All joking aside yes the demons ions are different but different in a good way.

[Brisman]

Met up with a buddy yesterday, put these two together, lovely duo.

[donoman]

I've noticed that many people still wear them on the bracelet. I'd like to see some other viable options


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[donoman]

NATO perhaps?



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[simplicity]

Mine

[simplicity]

OOPS ! Sorry , i forgot :

Great post . Many thanks

I agree with all points you describe .

My Tudor 79090 just landed yesterday . I love triangle markers , acrylic glass and very nice patina .

Picked up that Submariner Tudor instead of Rolex 1680 or 16800 after many thoughts about each of them . Finally Tudor 79709 won

[aaronius]

Keeping it alive well into 2017!

My reason: vintage quality without the "bling". Rolex, to me, screams, "look at me". I'm a fan of decent time pieces, but just don't need folks "talkin". The avg Joe doesn't know Tudor, and I prefer that relatively incognito element of the Tudor brand.

'81 flake with ETA 2784 and bubble crystal

[bman381]

I love mine! Doing some bezel cleaning. Runs like a champ.

[saskmh]

Originally Posted by RCAFBuster

I love my Tudor Subs, all with Military Provenance.
Buster

Buster you're killing me with those subs.

[CPRWATCH]

Mind if I join in , Absolutely love the Tudor Blue Subs . My partner wears this 1989 79090 as a daily wearer & its great to see on her wrist .