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GT500 · 7 October 2017, 12:30 AM

I know this has been discussed many of times I'm sure but can't find the thread. I like both versions myself but I haven't seen many new Ceramic ones for sale preowned lately on here or am I missing them, Sub ND yes. One more desirable over the other or something? Appreciate the feedback!

Wrist Watcher · 7 October 2017, 12:39 AM

Few thoughts:

1) Both are awesome, so it's merely a personal preference.

2) I feel like the ND gets more "love" on TRF because it sticks to the roots of the Sub and a dive watch in general by not having a date. Nevertheless, I believe the date version is more popular overall outside of TRF (general population, non-Rolex enthusiasts).

3) I had the date version and loved it, and I really appreciated having the date since it was my daily wearer. However, if I had another watch with a date as my daily wearer (another Sub, a GMT, etc.), then I would go for the no date because I love the clean lines and symmetry of the dial and the fact that it is more "vintage" as in true to the roots of the Sub and a dive watch. In fact, the next time I keep two Rolex watches in my daily collection, I'll more than likely have one with a date (Hulk, BLNR, etc.) and the no date Sub to compliment it (of course, until I finally get the call for the Daytona C in which case that one will rule them all).

GT500 · 7 October 2017, 12:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ClemsonTC

Few thoughts:

1) Both are awesome, so it's merely a personal preference.

2) I feel like the ND gets more "love" on TRF because it sticks to the roots of the Sub and a dive watch in general by not having a date. Nevertheless, I believe the date version is more popular overall outside of TRF (general population, non-Rolex enthusiasts).

3) I had the date version and loved it, and I really appreciated having the date since it was my daily wearer. However, if I had another watch with a date as my daily wearer (another Sub, a GMT, etc.), then I would go for the no date because I love the clean lines and symmetry of the dial and the fact that it is more "vintage" as in true to the roots of the Sub and a dive watch. In fact, the next time I keep two Rolex watches in my daily collection, I'll more than likely have one with a date (Hulk, BLNR, etc.) and the no date Sub to compliment it (of course, until I finally get the call for the Daytona C in which case that one will rule them all).

I think everything you just said makes sense. My Daytona C is a keeper for sure!

Timetracker · 7 October 2017, 01:05 AM

Well, I just plunked down a pile of cash for an 114060, so that's my choice:-)

Chewbacca · 7 October 2017, 01:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Timetracker

Well, I just plunked down a pile of cash for an 114060, so that's my choice:-)

congrats!

Pringle · 7 October 2017, 01:41 AM

I have just bought a Sub C Date 116610LN. I was on various lists for the non date Sub 114060 but when it came to it I could not give up the date feature. The 114060 looks a little more symmetrical and is slightly better looking as a result but for me, practicality won the day and it had to have a date. If you don't need the date the 114060 is a fine looking watch.

Brny11 · 7 October 2017, 01:42 AM

I have owned both and prefer the date. The thread below might help!

https://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?p=7321504

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rushca01 · 7 October 2017, 01:42 AM

Not being a big fan of the cylops (my only cyclops are on my GMT's) and seeing as I have a 14060m I vote 114060

tommy91 · 7 October 2017, 02:01 AM

I prefer no date, I don't like cyclops

j0oftheworld · 7 October 2017, 02:09 AM

I prefer ND.. I think it's so popular that the grey market inventory turns over quickly. You'll find the right one!

jabbawock545 · 7 October 2017, 02:58 AM

No date for me im not a fan of the cyclops

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lord91 · 7 October 2017, 03:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GT500

I know this has been discussed many of times I'm sure but can't find the thread. I like both versions myself but I haven't seen many new Ceramic ones for sale preowned lately on here or am I missing them, Sub ND yes. One more desirable over the other or something? Appreciate the feedback!

That's because you've got the names wrong, you would want to search for the Sub and Sub Date

I too had to choose between the two, but went for the classic one. The cyclops and date were the deal breaker, for a first and only Rolex i had to get what i liked the most. Down the road, i might add a date version also, as i love sunburst dials.

jrs146 · 7 October 2017, 03:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Timetracker

Well, I just plunked down a pile of cash for an 114060, so that's my choice:-)

Congrats! That deserves its own incoming thread... and pics

Mick8moses · 7 October 2017, 03:06 AM

My vote is no date for the reason previously mentioned:
It seems to me against the spirit of a diving watch.

Now for a GMT - the date & cyclops - Yes Please!

kauffee · 7 October 2017, 03:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GT500

I know this has been discussed many of times I'm sure but can't find the thread. I like both versions myself but I haven't seen many new Ceramic ones for sale preowned lately on here or am I missing them, Sub ND yes. One more desirable over the other or something? Appreciate the feedback!

You're right that there doesn't seem to be many preowned Sub Dates for sale at the moment. However the search function on the classifieds here has never been great for me. Search the model # on watchrecon.com. That will be your best bet as it crawls a number of classified sites. There are a few preowned for sale on other sites.

beshannon · 7 October 2017, 03:08 AM

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Originally Posted by rushca01

Not being a big fan of the cylops (my only cyclops are on my GMT's) and seeing as I have a 14060m I vote 114060

I agree

smym18 · 7 October 2017, 03:10 AM

The more I see the no date the more I start to like it. But I legitimately use my Sub Date for its actual purpose of knowing the date quite often so I don't think I could make the switch.

Big Frankie · 7 October 2017, 03:12 AM

Get one of each!!

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Calatrava r · 7 October 2017, 03:17 AM

ND is classic but the date version is more popular and easier to sell when the time comes.

ZOOK · 7 October 2017, 03:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Timetracker

Well, I just plunked down a pile of cash for an 114060, so that's my choice:-)

Well, I just plunked down a pile of cash for an 116610LN, so that's my choice.

Verdi · 7 October 2017, 04:02 AM

I went for ND. Besides heritage, the relatively small dial looks better without the cyclop imo.

Than again, if this is your only watch go for the date model.

CPRWATCH · 7 October 2017, 04:31 AM

Had a ND sold it ,desperately thought I wanted a SubC date bought one & never wore it . Sold it & bought a 16610LV & couldn't be happier .But if I had to choose between the Sub ND or Date It would be the SubC date every time .

The Libertine · 7 October 2017, 04:34 AM

Submariner > Submariner Date. Always.

antbkny · 7 October 2017, 04:37 AM

cyclops #1!

landroverking · 7 October 2017, 04:48 AM

That should be Sub Vs Sub Date.

Timetracker · 7 October 2017, 04:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZOOK

Well, I just plunked down a pile of cash for an 116610LN, so that's my choice.

And a great choice it is, congrats!

ZOOK · 7 October 2017, 06:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Timetracker

And a great choice it is, congrats!

Congrats to you also. Really loving my SubDC.

sutats · 7 October 2017, 07:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by landroverking

That should be Sub Vs Sub Date.

+1
They are the two most mispresented models on the forum. It's baffling considering they are the two most widely regarded models. lol.

The Submariner is pure and relaxed with a simple symmetrical dial. However to pick an only watch between the two then it's the Submariner Date for functionality.

Joemck · 7 October 2017, 08:40 AM

The debate of sub v. Sub date is endless. When you make a decision, reach out to one of the trusted sellers. They will hook you up in no time.

007_Omega · 7 October 2017, 10:29 AM

No Date for me. It's just so clean and perfect though a date function is very useful.

If people want a date, and don't like the bubble, the Sea Dweller is calling out to them. The 40mm version is a great compromise.

7 October 2017, 12:39 AM	#2
Wrist Watcher 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: USA Watch: Hulk 116610LV Posts: 1,440	Few thoughts: 1) Both are awesome, so it's merely a personal preference. 2) I feel like the ND gets more "love" on TRF because it sticks to the roots of the Sub and a dive watch in general by not having a date. Nevertheless, I believe the date version is more popular overall outside of TRF (general population, non-Rolex enthusiasts). 3) I had the date version and loved it, and I really appreciated having the date since it was my daily wearer. However, if I had another watch with a date as my daily wearer (another Sub, a GMT, etc.), then I would go for the no date because I love the clean lines and symmetry of the dial and the fact that it is more "vintage" as in true to the roots of the Sub and a dive watch. In fact, the next time I keep two Rolex watches in my daily collection, I'll more than likely have one with a date (Hulk, BLNR, etc.) and the no date Sub to compliment it (of course, until I finally get the call for the Daytona C in which case that one will rule them all). __________________ Rolex Submariner 116610LV (Hulk) Rolex GMT Master II 126710BLRO (Pepsi) Rolex Daytona 116500LN (White)

7 October 2017, 01:05 AM	#4
Timetracker "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2017 Location: USA Posts: 178	Well, I just plunked down a pile of cash for an 114060, so that's my choice:-) Last edited by Timetracker; 7 October 2017 at 01:08 AM.. Reason: Mispelling

7 October 2017, 03:12 AM	#18
Big Frankie "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Northern NJ Watch: 16613T Posts: 92	Get one of each!! Sent from my Nexus 5X using Tapatalk __________________ 16234 116710 116610LV 114060 16613T

7 October 2017, 04:02 AM	#21
Verdi "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2015 Real Name: Mitch Location: UAE Watch: Big Ben Posts: 2,451	I went for ND. Besides heritage, the relatively small dial looks better without the cyclop imo. Than again, if this is your only watch go for the date model. __________________ IG: @watch_idiot_savant

7 October 2017, 08:40 AM	#29
Joemck "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2015 Location: Boston Watch: And listen Posts: 689	The debate of sub v. Sub date is endless. When you make a decision, reach out to one of the trusted sellers. They will hook you up in no time. __________________ " Now and then we had a hope that if we lived and were good, God would permit us to become pirates." ---- Mark Twain

7 October 2017, 12:30 AM	#1
GT500 "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2017 Real Name: John Location: OH IO Posts: 528	Sub vs Sub ND I know this has been discussed many of times I'm sure but can't find the thread. I like both versions myself but I haven't seen many new Ceramic ones for sale preowned lately on here or am I missing them, Sub ND yes. One more desirable over the other or something? Appreciate the feedback!

7 October 2017, 01:41 AM	#6
Pringle "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: UK Watch: Rolex Sub 116610LN Posts: 52	I have just bought a Sub C Date 116610LN. I was on various lists for the non date Sub 114060 but when it came to it I could not give up the date feature. The 114060 looks a little more symmetrical and is slightly better looking as a result but for me, practicality won the day and it had to have a date. If you don't need the date the 114060 is a fine looking watch.

7 October 2017, 01:42 AM	#7
Brny11 "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2016 Real Name: Brian Location: Florida Posts: 2,456	I have owned both and prefer the date. The thread below might help! https://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?p=7321504 Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

7 October 2017, 01:42 AM	#8
rushca01 "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2016 Location: Indiana Watch: GMT BLRO Posts: 1,741	Not being a big fan of the cylops (my only cyclops are on my GMT's) and seeing as I have a 14060m I vote 114060

7 October 2017, 02:01 AM	#9
tommy91 "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2015 Real Name: . Location: . Posts: 1,343	I prefer no date, I don't like cyclops

7 October 2017, 02:09 AM	#10
j0oftheworld "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2017 Real Name: Jason Location: Phoenix, AZ Watch: 14060M Posts: 269	I prefer ND.. I think it's so popular that the grey market inventory turns over quickly. You'll find the right one!

7 October 2017, 02:58 AM	#11
jabbawock545 "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2016 Location: Uk Posts: 138	No date for me im not a fan of the cyclops Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

7 October 2017, 03:06 AM	#14
Mick8moses "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Real Name: Mick Location: Atlanta Posts: 1,523	My vote is no date for the reason previously mentioned: It seems to me against the spirit of a diving watch. Now for a GMT - the date & cyclops - Yes Please!

7 October 2017, 03:10 AM	#17
smym18 "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2017 Location: USA Posts: 1,376	The more I see the no date the more I start to like it. But I legitimately use my Sub Date for its actual purpose of knowing the date quite often so I don't think I could make the switch.

7 October 2017, 03:17 AM	#19
Calatrava r 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Mar 2017 Location: United States Watch: Rolex and Patek Posts: 10,595	ND is classic but the date version is more popular and easier to sell when the time comes.

7 October 2017, 04:31 AM	#22
CPRWATCH "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2016 Real Name: Paul Location: Chester UK Watch: Rolex GMT Master Posts: 4,592	Had a ND sold it ,desperately thought I wanted a SubC date bought one & never wore it . Sold it & bought a 16610LV & couldn't be happier .But if I had to choose between the Sub ND or Date It would be the SubC date every time .

7 October 2017, 04:34 AM	#23
The Libertine Banned Join Date: May 2014 Real Name: Mike Location: BOS Watch: 16710;14060;214270 Posts: 6,375	Submariner > Submariner Date. Always.

7 October 2017, 04:37 AM	#24
antbkny "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2013 Real Name: Anthony Location: Brooklyn, NY Watch: Dblue Posts: 6,723	cyclops #1!

7 October 2017, 04:48 AM	#25
landroverking "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Real Name: Jay Location: TEXAS Watch: Daytona Posts: 7,648	That should be Sub Vs Sub Date.

7 October 2017, 10:29 AM	#30
007_Omega "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2017 Location: Galaxy Watch: Explorer Posts: 897	No Date for me. It's just so clean and perfect though a date function is very useful. If people want a date, and don't like the bubble, the Sea Dweller is calling out to them. The 40mm version is a great compromise.

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