If The Price Is Same, Which One More Good 232 or 249?

[Trurolexer]

Yeah, which one do you choose between 'em?
Please really your vote here. Thanks Guys!!!


Best Regards, TR.

P.S : I vote for 249!!! I like the vintage look dial.

[mfer]

Well, I voted 249 as well. Not sure I can pull off the 47mm, but the dial is awesome, the plexiglass is vintage and sweet blue hands!!!

[Trurolexer]

Originally Posted by mfer

Well, I voted 249 as well. Not sure I can pull off the 47mm, but the dial is awesome, the plexiglass is vintage and sweet blue hands!!!

YEAH BABY!!!
But the value is a bit loco...USD 14,500-15,000 here in Jakarta.

[watchboy]

I will go for the 249. Cos the 232 looks like BLACK SEAL models but without the words "BLACK SEAL", but with a bigger case.

But for that money, I would honestly pass them and get the 190 instead with the Angelus 8 days movement!


JMHO.

[brainbizz]

No comparison, the 249 is in a class by itself concerning rads. The 232 and 190 are nice watches but lack that little something extra.

[watchboy]

Both the 249 and 232 house the same movement PANERAI OPX which is the a decorated Unitas 6497 with 56 hours power reserve. Whereas the 190 is a JLC 8 days movement!

[watchboy]

Originally Posted by watchboy

I will go for the 249. Cos the 232 looks like BLACK SEAL models but without the words "BLACK SEAL", but with a bigger case.

But for that money, I would honestly pass them and get the 190 instead with the Angelus 8 days movement!


JMHO.

Sorry, my bad, the 190 houses a JLC 8 days movement not the Angelus.

[TswaneNguni]

Originally Posted by watchboy

I will go for the 249. Cos the 232 looks like BLACK SEAL models but without the words "BLACK SEAL", but with a bigger case.

But for that money, I would honestly pass them and get the 190 instead with the Angelus 8 days movement!


JMHO.

190 has a JLC 8 day movement.The Angelus movement is in the controversial 203.

Earlier this week a 203 sold for $105k on auction in Hong Kong.Must be a sign of the bad economy worldwide,because thats quite low for a 203.Last one went for around Euro 120K and I saw one on another site for $140K.

[TswaneNguni]

I like the 232.

The 249 is unique and very nice in its own way.Personally,I dont like the mixing of Arabics and Romans/nameless dial and acrylic glass.

232 is elegant Radiomir,with a nice 47mm casing and a lovely balanced 3/6/9/12 dial.

I like the 232 better.

Secondary pricing have to be included,since the 232 goes for around $8k and the 249 for $13.5k and up.

In current economic conditions,pricing on these two may drop slightly.

[watchboy]

Originally Posted by TswaneNguni

190 has a JLC 8 day movement.The Angelus movement is in the controversial 203.

Earlier this week a 203 sold for $105k on auction in Hong Kong.Must be a sign of the bad economy worldwide,because thats quite low for a 203.Last one went for around Euro 120K and I saw one on another site for $140K.

It is not a bad price for $105k. Considering that the USD went up against most of the currencies of the world. For eg. today USD105k = about Euro77k, about a few months ago, USD105 was = about Euro65k. So just convert Euro12k gained to HKD!

[TswaneNguni]

Originally Posted by watchboy

It is not a bad price for $105k. Considering that the USD went up against most of the currencies of the world. For eg. today USD105k = about Euro77k, about a few months ago, USD105 was = about Euro65k. So just convert Euro12k gained to HKD!

Agreed.It was a great price for the 203,for now.Perhaps conditions forces pricing down further.I think it will.

[watchboy]

Originally Posted by TswaneNguni

Agreed.It was a great price for the 203,for now.Perhaps conditions forces pricing down further.I think it will.

The price a few years back for the 203 was around $18k-20k. That's the fattest cow(profit) in the current PANERAI world!

[mfer]

I say 249 again!!!!

Here is some movement information.

Panerai Calibre = Base Movment
OP I = ETA 6497
OP II = ETA 6497
OP III = Valjoux 7750
OP IV = Zenith El Primero
OP V = Frederique Piguet
OP VI = Zenith El Primero
OP VII = Zenith Elite 680
OP VIII = Valjoux 7750
OP IX = Valjoux 7750
OP X = ETA 6497
OP XI = ETA 6497
OP XII = Valjoux 7753
OP XIII = JLC 897
OP XIV = JLC
OP XVI = Lemania 1972
OP XVIII = Valjoux
OP XIX = Valjoux

[watchboy]

Originally Posted by mfer

I say 249 again!!!!

Here is some movement information.

Panerai Calibre = Base Movment
OP I = ETA 6497
OP II = ETA 6497
OP III = Valjoux 7750
OP IV = Zenith El Primero
OP V = Frederique Piguet
OP VI = Zenith El Primero
OP VII = Zenith Elite 680
OP VIII = Valjoux 7750
OP IX = Valjoux 7750
OP X = ETA 6497
OP XI = ETA 6497
OP XII = Valjoux 7753
OP XIII = JLC 897
OP XIV = JLC
OP XVI = Lemania 1972
OP XVIII = Valjoux
OP XIX = Valjoux

249 & 232 both Unitas vs 190 JLC 8 days movement!

You will choose......

[Mrdi]

Show the side by side pics.

[watchboy]

Here you go:



190 for me! Hands down!

[mfer]

Originally Posted by watchboy

249 & 232 both Unitas vs 190 JLC 8 days movement!

You will choose......

I would still choose the 249!!!!


Panerai is NOT about the movements! Their history is started by using other people's movements. First ever was Rolex. There is nothing wrong with the ETA movements they use and although they are ETA movements, they are TOP quality. I own a 6497 movement watch and I recently have looked at several PAM's with 6497 base movements. They are SOOOOO much smother than my swiss 6497 movements. The also work within COSC standards. They aren't certified, but if you talk to your AD, they will make necessary adjustments for you (at least mine will). That being said, without a second hand the checking if you watch is within -4+6 sec a day would be tough. Would have to look at it over a months time to tell if you were even a min off. Still could be tough!

[watchboy]

Originally Posted by mfer

I would still choose the 249!!!!


Panerai is NOT about the movements! Their history is started by using other people's movements. First ever was Rolex. There is nothing wrong with the ETA movements they use and although they are ETA movements, they are TOP quality. I own a 6497 movement watch and I recently have looked at several PAM's with 6497 base movements. They are SOOOOO much smother than my swiss 6497 movements. The also work within COSC standards. They aren't certified, but if you talk to your AD, they will make necessary adjustments for you (at least mine will). That being said, without a second hand the checking if you watch is within -4+6 sec a day would be tough. Would have to look at it over a months time to tell if you were even a min off. Still could be tough!

There you go! You said it yourself!

[sclamb]

Well I did



But then I also chose the 190

[mfer]

I think I recognize those shots from Paneristi. Welcome to TRF and wonderful shot there m8!

[watchboy]

Originally Posted by sclamb

Well I did



But then I also chose the 190

WOW! That's the BEST Choices here!

[Andad]

Originally Posted by mfer

I say 249 again!!!!

Here is some movement information.

Panerai Calibre = Base Movment
OP I = ETA 6497
OP II = ETA 6497
OP III = Valjoux 7750
OP IV = Zenith El Primero
OP V = Frederique Piguet
OP VI = Zenith El Primero
OP VII = Zenith Elite 680
OP VIII = Valjoux 7750
OP IX = Valjoux 7750
OP X = ETA 6497
OP XI = ETA 6497
OP XII = Valjoux 7753
OP XIII = JLC 897
OP XIV = JLC
OP XVI = Lemania 1972
OP XVIII = Valjoux
OP XIX = Valjoux

Where are the real Panerai movements?

[sclamb]

Originally Posted by mfer

I think I recognize those shots from Paneristi. Welcome to TRF and wonderful shot there m8!

Yes indeed Thanks for the welcome and for the compliment on the shots

[sclamb]

Originally Posted by watchboy

WOW! That's the BEST Choices here!

Thanks! The Radiomir trinity would be the 190, 249 and 232, so I should try and add a 232 to the mix

[mailman]

249

[Jimbits76]

249....love the cali style dial

sweet watch.

J

[Trurolexer]

Originally Posted by sclamb

Well I did



But then I also chose the 190

BIG WELCOME TO TRF!!!

Hope you ENJOY your stay here!!!

WOW!!! Collection!!!

[oyster21]

249 for me! :)
Asides from what everybody has mentioned, 232 is heavier than 249 due to the solid back and sapphire crystal.

249 is a very nice watch indeed. The dial is unique, history behind it is just amazing.

Trurolexer: you know you want one

[sclamb]

Originally Posted by Trurolexer

BIG WELCOME TO TRF!!!

Hope you ENJOY your stay here!!!

WOW!!! Collection!!!

Thanks

I had a call this afternoon about a new shipment of Sea Dwellers (the old style 16600) and I have been allocated one, so I will be getting back into the Rolex fold soon (I sold my Rolexes a few years ago).

[mdtddd2007]

249 cali dial is very nice