Authenticity check

[Vvillie]

Gents,

I am looking at buying this watch. What do you guys think of the authenticity.

Thanks
https://imgur.com/a/alCxcI1

[crowncollection]

Take some still shots, it’s hard to tell when the watch keeps moving around


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[Leopard88]

Looks good, is the price suspiciously low?

[GLADIATOR]

Originally Posted by Leopard88

Looks good, is the price suspiciously low?

Really?
Even the cushion its on is fake!

As David said - impossible to tell - no one should buy based on that 'Parkinsons" photo

[Drkitch109]

Looks suspect to me. You should look at high quality stills paying particular attention to the date wheel, cyclops, hand stack, and clasp.


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[mbrown55]

IMO the only real way to authenticate (other than take to a jeweler) is to unscrew the crown and wind it, the better chinese fakes still haven't figured out how to make a smooth feeling screwdown crown action or winding feel.

[Vvillie]

I just added two more pictures. It doesn’t come with box or papers, which would be why the cushions wrong.

[GLADIATOR]

Originally Posted by Vvillie

I just added two more pictures. It doesn’t come with box or papers, which would be why the cushions wrong.

Based on those photos its fake in my opinion.

Strange story about the cushion ??
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[77T]

I agree - it’s no good.

And the sketchy story of no box/papers is also a red flag unless it’s coming from your careless cousin.


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[GLADIATOR]

Originally Posted by 77T

I agree - it’s no good.

And the sketchy story of no box/papers is also a red flag unless it’s coming from your careless cousin.


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Its fake OK, I suspect this person is phishing?

[Vvillie]

Thanks for the advice. I agree it does sound too good to be true. It is off Chrono24, but I do not see it listed anymore. It is still in my favourites, but I cannot access the advertisement for some reason.

I will ask for more high res stills.

[GLADIATOR]

Originally Posted by Vvillie

Thanks for the advice. I agree it does sound too good to be true. It is off Chrono24, but I do not see it listed anymore. It is still in my favourites, but I cannot access the advertisement for some reason.

I will ask for more high res stills.

No need - its fake, based on what we can see, and you report.
Stay Away!
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[Leopard88]

Well its fake because of what? That it doesnt have box or papers? Ive bought many watches without box papers and none of them were stolen or fake. People sometimes even throw away boxes or simply sell them because when they buy without intention to resell they often dont think a silly plastic card or box matters at all, especially when warranty expires the card becomes useless and many people dont care for it at all.
I dont see any pure sign of it being fake yet, the best would be to see its movement as 3186 hasnt been cloned yet

[GLADIATOR]

Originally Posted by Leopard88

Well its fake because of what? That it doesnt have box or papers? Ive bought many watches without box papers and none of them were stolen or fake. People sometimes even throw away boxes or simply sell them because when they buy without intention to resell they often dont think a silly plastic card or box matters at all, especially when warranty expires the card becomes useless and many people dont care for it at all.
I dont see any pure sign of it being fake yet, the best would be to see its movement as 3186 hasnt been cloned yet

I did not say it was fake due to no box or papers.
I did (correctly) point out that the displayed cushion was NOT Rolex. Strange someone would use that.

There are distinct 'tell-tale' signs on the watch pointing in my opinion to fake.

I personally dont list/state them for reasons that I have stated many times.
Many TRF members also follows that.
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[ThatExplorer]

Hand stack, give away.

[freefly]

Originally Posted by ThatExplorer

Hand stack, give away.

Hand stack is actually OK here, but there are plenty of other "tells" as to why it's garbage.

[GLADIATOR]

Originally Posted by ThatExplorer

Hand stack, give away.

As stated - hand stack is correct/good.
Other issues though - its fake
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[ThatExplorer]

Originally Posted by GLADIATOR

As stated - hand stack is correct/good.
Other issues though - its fake
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The video still I have looks like GMT hand is bottom and hour hand top of it. Which of course would be wrong. Also the date is shit on it, bezel insert is crap, rehaut is crap. Along others.


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[ThatExplorer]

Lol just saw photos with post I’m an idiot


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[GLADIATOR]

Originally Posted by ThatExplorer

Lol just saw photos with post I’m an idiot


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[jeffnnj]

Color transition on bezel is too abrupt.