Nautilus, Royal Oak and Overseas

[soundserious]

VC reboots this lineup every 5 years, meh. Good news is it can be had at a fraction of the other two.

[EdwardC]

It is true the Overseas had made considerable changes in each generation. I really didn't like the previous 2, but I think the current one they finally nailed it as a true sport watch with beautiful internal.

[underpar31009]

Originally Posted by GB-man

Please find the cliff notes to my rambling above.

Hahahahaha! Well said by the way!

[theflywrist]

Originally Posted by soundserious

VC reboots this lineup every 5 years, meh. Good news is it can be had at a fraction of the other two.

Exactly what I was thinking!
RO and Nautilus designs IMO are also aesthetically far superior.

[dannyp]

Originally Posted by soundserious

VC reboots this lineup every 5 years, meh. Good news is it can be had at a fraction of the other two.

Good point. Not unlike the IWC Ingenieur or GP Laureato in that respect. At the moment I'm not a fan of the Inge but love the Laureato, though that was the opposite for the previous generations of each.

[dannyp]

Originally Posted by theflywrist

Exactly what I was thinking!
RO and Nautilus designs IMO are also aesthetically far superior.

OS, in many ways, feels like a "JLC+"

[codecow]

I have always liked Overseas in person but the out of house movement was a big turn off. I saw the limited blue and red PC 20 pieces at a boutique and it was only 56k, think it had a JLC movement.

[EdwardC]

Maintenance wise are all 3 (say simple 3 hander) similar in terms of cycle and price?

[Bearxj86]

I've tried on the newer Overseas a few time. For me, I haven't been able to convince myself to buy one. The opposite was true when I tried on the royal oaks; I definitely wanted one immediately.

[jag32]

I want a 5711 but my AD told me 6 years. So I want something else that's a sports watch and I refuse to buy an AP. AP has abdicated their glorious history by basically becoming a one-watch brand. So I've been looking at the Overseas and I really like it and may get one.

[Fat_ninja]

Originally Posted by jag32

I want a 5711 but my AD told me 6 years. So I want something else that's a sports watch and I refuse to buy an AP. AP has abdicated their glorious history by basically becoming a one-watch brand. So I've been looking at the Overseas and I really like it and may get one.

Wears very different vs a nautilus and royal oak... more rolex in my mind

[jag32]

Originally Posted by Fat_ninja

Wears very different vs a nautilus and royal oak... more rolex in my mind

I agree.

[superdog]

Originally Posted by tyler1980

if you try on a overseas chrono and compare it to a ROC then its big and bulky and chunky and seems a bit out of proportion if looking for a ROC type of watch.

If you try it on and are looking for a 42mm ROO type of watch then all of a sudden it makes more sense. IMO its a smarter looking version of a 42MM ROO and especially so with a bracelet.

On size and wrist presence it just seems like the offshore customer is the appropriate market for it. Its not a negative on either brand, i just think the comparisons are sometimes not comparing the most similar watches to each other.

What am I missing?

VC overseas chrono is chuncky compared to the ROC? Surely you jest.

I’ve not checked the specs. But I’d say they are nearly equal. The ROC is a very substantial piece. To me, just by feel, the VC chrono is much more proprtional and balanced.

[Roccio]

Both Nautilus and RO have significant patterns on the dial that make them somewhat fuller . Vacheron lacks that bit of detail and the hr only version looks a little vacant, a little lacking.

With that said, I found the Overseas dual time to be very pretty and visually pleasing. Great watch, good straps, overall an attractive complete package imo especially if you are fed up with having to wait ridiculous amount of time to buy either RO or Nautilus from ADs

[jag32]

Would everyone agree that the Overseas is the best alternative to waiting for a Nautilus or Royal Oak?

[Ichiran]

I do think the datejust is the best alternative to the date-only Nautilus and RO.

[lig]

Originally Posted by jag32

Would everyone agree that the Overseas is the best alternative to waiting for a Nautilus or Royal Oak?

I would emphatically disagree. There are a few VC pieces I really like. None of them are an Overseas.

GB-man pretty much nailed it in post #2.

[jerryguo]

The overseas lacks the elegant look and wearability compared to the other two. I tried on the blue dial chrono and it feels bulky and way too thick

[Analysing You]

Originally Posted by GB-man

While I commend the modernization of the VC, it’s design will likely never resonate with me. It’s beyond in last place for me. It’s not even on the list.

The royal oak is the original. AP have bastardized it much like omega has the speedy, but thankfully they still make some compelling renditions, just like omega.

The Patek is the odd ball. A derivative design completely devoid of modern upgrades but fortunate to be part of the second strongest brand in watches. Hot as they come right now and enjoying it’s long awaited limelight.

PREACH!!

[ppalasthira]

Originally Posted by jag32

Would everyone agree that the Overseas is the best alternative to waiting for a Nautilus or Royal Oak?

I agree.

It wears big like the RO imho.

[Passionata]

Originally Posted by EdwardC

I'm sure there are millions people chimed in this topic. For the current generation, do you feel each of these 3 have enough features and character that make them great watches? Like, is oversea still worst of the 3?

IDK which is the worst but I like Nautius the most ,
I was in love with the 15202 but it come and go however the Nautilus still a solid lover .

[ts3]

GB-man said it all post #2.

I have always liked the VC 222 but since then, nothing... The Overseas does just the opposite of attracting me and in my view VC did a poor job in managing their 222 heritage.

[PJ S]

Originally Posted by jag32

Would everyone agree that the Overseas is the best alternative to waiting for a Nautilus or Royal Oak?

Presumably you’re referring to the current 3rd Gen design with in-house movement?
On that basis, the word ‘best’ (subjective description more often than not) would need to be defined — otherwise, you could advocate the Girard-Perregaux Laureatos as being an equal alternative.