16610LV The real 50th Anniversary sub???

[builtforspeed]

Originally Posted by SMD

I have an F flat four with December 2003 papers. FWIW

I, too, have a 16610V with oval 'O', flat four, F Serial 02.... Purchased 23 December 2003 (bill of sale and open warranty date). I've never seen evidence that there exists a 'Y' Serial 16610V.

[101031-28]

Originally Posted by builtforspeed

I, too, have a 16610V with oval 'O', flat four, F Serial 02.... Purchased 23 December 2003 (bill of sale and open warranty date). I've never seen evidence that there exists a 'Y' Serial 16610V.

Purchased my first 16610LV in December 2003, Y946XXX serial. They do exist, but as rare as you can imagine being at the end of the Y serial production run.

[drmizzou]

Ignorance incoming.....what’s a flat 4? Pics?? Also, is this the more valuable of the 50th anniversary LV’s?

[fleabag]

My 2003 FLAT 4


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[fleabag]

my 2003 FLAT 4 with the SUPER RARE PRESS PACK /KIT


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[dcash0615]

My Y serial flat 4 LV. Gone, but definitely not forgotten

[frankoman]

Originally Posted by fleabag

my 2003 FLAT 4 with the SUPER RARE PRESS PACK /KIT


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Did you pop the CD Rom in the computer?
Great PDFs in there.

[The Argonaut]

Originally Posted by fleabag

2003,Flat 4

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Do you wear it?

[fleabag]

No as I just don’t have time to wear it , it just stays in the safe


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[The Argonaut]

Well, speaking of special LV's, feast your eyes on this version currently on Chrono24:

https://www.chrono24.com/rolex/rolex...-id6132004.htm

[frankoman]

Originally Posted by The Argonaut

Well, speaking of special LV's, feast your eyes on this version currently on Chrono24:

https://www.chrono24.com/rolex/rolex...-id6132004.htm

With box and papers! Better get some $ together.

[oldman2005]

They're all 50th anniversary model and that's from Rolex, unless anyone can point to any _official_ Rolex saying otherwise. They have different bezels, dials, MSRP, box sets as Rolex always do that. Basically some just made up thing which is the real anv just like the rumours from AD LOL.

Now if you're so much into the MK1 dial of the 50th anv watch, here's your chance to get the MK1 of SD43 now, get it before the dial is changed and price increase!!!!

[Bigblu10]

Originally Posted by Loevhagen

Funny thread. :)

Then the Y-series 16610LV from late 2002 is not worth much.

Surely you must be joking.

[Rolexfanboy82]

Originally Posted by frankoman

With box and papers! Better get some $ together.

Sorry.. Thats NOT an original LV.. Its a converted 16610
All LV models with the creditcard certificate states 16610LV

[jiffi]

Originally Posted by Rolexfanboy82

Sorry.. Thats NOT an original LV.. Its a converted 16610
All LV models with the creditcard certificate states 16610LV

This is an important point! And buyer beware when we talk about paper certificates. Thats why the 16610 lv market is so difficult. The reason i know this is the following. I many years back converted a regular 16610 by changing the insert and dial at the local AD. When i then a few years later bought a real LV i fund many where the papers didn't state LV and the one i ended up buying didnt, but i got a confirmation from the AD who sold the watch new that it was a genuine LV as he could trace the delivery papers from Rolex. This makes this market very tricky especially on the eraly series as my belief is that later ones all hav lv in the papers. My conclusion is that you should never ever buy one and pay the LV premium without the papers and papers with the LV confirmation that is

Cheers

Cheers

[Gina Marie]

You knew this was only a matter of time.

Got from the watch club.

[frankoman]

Originally Posted by Rolexfanboy82

Sorry.. Thats NOT an original LV.. Its a converted 16610
All LV models with the creditcard certificate states 16610LV

I was being sarcastic.

[springer]

Originally Posted by meganfox17

Correct me if I'm wrong guys !

Rolex Sub
✓Research & Development 1950-1953
✓Sub 6200 Born May 1953
✓Official Announcement of the Sub to the World Sept 1953
✓Passed 132 dives tests of Institute of Deep Sea Research May-Oct 1953
✓Official Launch of Sub 6204 Basel Spring Watch Fair 1954
✓Official sale to public : 4th quarter / Q4 of 1954
✓Submariner font on dial Dec 1954

Summary : 1953 is indeed the birth year of the Rolex Sub

Thank you! I was beginning to wonder when the post would show up with the correct year for the first Sub.

[springer]

Originally Posted by Loevhagen

Funny thread. :)

Then the Y-series 16610LV from late 2002 is not worth much.

They were released during 2003.

[Loevhagen]

Originally Posted by springer

They were released during 2003.

I know - so that's why it was said tongue in cheek. However, first had Y-serial watch case and these were probably produced in 2002.

[BaselWorld]

After the golf round....:)

[Chaching]

I still can't believe how much these have gone up in the last few years ....

[Loevhagen]

Green is the new black.

[Bladeshot]

Originally Posted by Loevhagen

Green is the new black.

Rock on ~ Green!


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[fleabag]

Originally Posted by Chaching

I still can't believe how much these have gone up in the last few years ....

And still climbing rapidly


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[gbmarq88]

Hey Guys -

Looking to get my very first Rolex Sub - and am drawn to the Kermit. I love that it is out of production, and therefore only a finite amount are in existence. Also, the green color of course!

I am looking to pull the trigger on one (D serial number).

However, I have seen posts here that a person could have purchased a BLACK sub in the years 2003-2010, then swap the bezel for green (easy) AND then swap the dial for a black "maxi" dial. I never thought of the dial swap!

If this occurred, then how could one tell if the original watch was, in fact, a Kermit? WOULDN'T THE SERIAL NUMBER TELL ALL? I have seen posts here that say you need to look at the original papers, calling out a 16610LV model number, not simply a 16610.

I assume that during 2003-2010 Rolex produced essentially TWO models:
- 16610LV (or 16610V) - GREEN, MAXI DIAL "Kermit"
- 16610 - Black, Black, no maxi dial

The watch I'm considering has no papers, no box. I'd rather save the $$ at this point as I intend to WEAR this thing daily. (That's why I appreciate the sapphire vs. plastic of older models....)

Thanks for your insight....

[Rolex addict]

Originally Posted by gbmarq88

Hey Guys -

Looking to get my very first Rolex Sub - and am drawn to the Kermit. I love that it is out of production, and therefore only a finite amount are in existence. Also, the green color of course!

I am looking to pull the trigger on one (D serial number).

However, I have seen posts here that a person could have purchased a BLACK sub in the years 2003-2010, then swap the bezel for green (easy) AND then swap the dial for a black "maxi" dial. I never thought of the dial swap!

If this occurred, then how could one tell if the original watch was, in fact, a Kermit? WOULDN'T THE SERIAL NUMBER TELL ALL? I have seen posts here that say you need to look at the original papers, calling out a 16610LV model number, not simply a 16610.

I assume that during 2003-2010 Rolex produced essentially TWO models:
- 16610LV (or 16610V) - GREEN, MAXI DIAL "Kermit"
- 16610 - Black, Black, no maxi dial

The watch I'm considering has no papers, no box. I'd rather save the $$ at this point as I intend to WEAR this thing daily. (That's why I appreciate the sapphire vs. plastic of older models....)

Thanks for your insight....

If the dial AND bezel have been swapped, there is no way you would know until sending it in for service at a RSC. They would check the serial number and see that it isn't an LV. At that point, I'm not sure if they would service the watch. They're funny about these kinds of things. I bought mine with all paperwork back in 2013 and the first thing I did was send it to RSC for a service. Everything came back ok. If you're unsure about the watch or seller, pass.

[Loevhagen]

Originally Posted by Rolex addict

If the dial AND bezel have been swapped, there is no way you would know until sending it in for service at a RSC. They would check the serial number and see that it isn't an LV. At that point, I'm not sure if they would service the watch. They're funny about these kinds of things. I bought mine with all paperwork back in 2013 and the first thing I did was send it to RSC for a service. Everything came back ok. If you're unsure about the watch or seller, pass.

Wrong.

IT IS POSSIBLE TO VERIFY - and here's how:

The serial number on the case, needs to match the maxi dial layout (prints, markers, etc). Check references on the net, and you'll see.

[Rolex addict]

Originally Posted by Loevhagen

Wrong.

IT IS POSSIBLE TO VERIFY - and here's how:

The serial number on the case, needs to match the maxi dial layout (prints, markers, etc). Check references on the net, and you'll see.

I have never seen any such reference chart. Please provide a website or link and I will be more than happy to.