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2Redbulls · 25 February 2018, 11:46 AM

I’m in the process of selling off some pieces and I’m looking for a new daily wearer that will compliment my FP Journe CB.

My criteria is as follows...
Must fit a smaller wrist so 41mm or smaller.
No leather strap, needs to be rubber or bracelet.
Needs to have a water resistance rating for swimming.
Time only (date function is nice but not required)
Be under $15k new or preowned.

Already owned Patek 5167, 5164, AP ROO Diver, Blancpain bathyscaphe, vacheron Overseas Chrono gen II. Blancpain Fifty Fathoms. Rolex Subs, seadwellers, yacht master I and II. Tudor Pelagos.

Looked at Omegas and didn’t see anything I liked, nothing from Tudor either.

Right now I’m considering FP Journe Elegante and H Mosier Pioneer.

Any insight into what else I should be looking into?

meganfox17 · 25 February 2018, 12:38 PM

Megan's choice

Breguet Ref 5817 ST Marine Big Date

lapince · 25 February 2018, 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by meganfox17

Megan's choice

Breguet Ref 5817 ST Marine Big Date

Yes awesome watch

2Redbulls · 25 February 2018, 01:12 PM

That's a great suggestion, not something I would have thought of.

Thanks!

ap1 · 25 February 2018, 02:29 PM

The lugs on that breguet are huge, too large

Pioneer moser is 42 and a large watch. It’s a beauty if you can pull it off.

Omega trilogy Seamaster
Jlc Polaris Date or no date - sihh18
Fifty fathoms milspec

El-Duderino · 25 February 2018, 02:56 PM

Huh, that is actually a tougher question than I thought looking at your requirements and the list of previously owned pieces.

I see the Breguet 5817 has already been mentioned, so even though these aren’t anywhere near $15k, here are a few that come to mind: BLNR, Zenith EL Primero 1969 with bracelet, PAM 048 or PAM 050 with bracelet, Grand Seiko SBGA211 or SBGJ201, or Blancpain Tribute Fifty Fathoms MIL-SPEC.

But, yeah, probably a Submariner makes the most sense given your criteria.

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scarlet knight · 25 February 2018, 03:23 PM

IWC Mark 18 on a bracelet? Mine is on leather. Sporty watch, not dressy.

scarlet knight · 25 February 2018, 03:26 PM

IWC Mark 18 picture

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PJ S · 25 February 2018, 03:31 PM

karmatp · 25 February 2018, 11:13 PM

Sinn 104 is a great beater. Cheap, reliable and reviews of it are fantastic, also waterproof to 660ft. It is 41mm and comes on leather, you just need to grab a rubber strap. I plan on picking up a white dial for something different.

I have a Mark XVIII and highly recommend it. I have the blue dial and it is honestly one of my favorite watches of all time. With that said, it is not really a summer diver. 6bar rated so yes you can swim with it, but it is happier in the air over water.

scarlet knight · 25 February 2018, 11:30 PM

Sinn 104 in white

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yoast · 25 February 2018, 11:46 PM

How about an AP 15300 / 15400?

2Redbulls · 26 February 2018, 02:44 AM

Thanks for the suggestions and links.

If I were to raise my budget to $20K, do you see anything else worth considering?

I like the BP FF Milspec, AP 15300, Mosier Pioneer, FPJ Elegante, IWC Mark 18 and the JLC Polaris.

scarlet knight · 26 February 2018, 02:50 AM

Here’s a couple of AP Royal Oaks from the NYC boutique, not my watches

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red1108nyc · 26 February 2018, 03:01 AM

I vote for AP 15300 blue

Gharddog03 · 26 February 2018, 03:15 AM

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Originally Posted by 2Redbulls

I’m in the process of selling off some pieces and I’m looking for a new daily wearer that will compliment my FP Journe CB.

My criteria is as follows...
Must fit a smaller wrist so 41mm or smaller.
No leather strap, needs to be rubber or bracelet.
Needs to have a water resistance rating for swimming.
Time only (date function is nice but not required)
Be under $15k new or preowned.

Already owned Patek 5167, 5164, AP ROO Diver, Blancpain bathyscaphe, vacheron Overseas Chrono gen II. Blancpain Fifty Fathoms. Rolex Subs, seadwellers, yacht master I and II. Tudor Pelagos.

Looked at Omegas and didn’t see anything I liked, nothing from Tudor either.

Right now I’m considering FP Journe Elegante and H Mosier Pioneer.

Any insight into what else I should be looking into?

You have so many boxes checked with your collection.... I would go with another AP. Or keep it under 2k with an Oris or Seiko..

El-Duderino · 26 February 2018, 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by 2Redbulls

Thanks for the suggestions and links.

If I were to raise my budget to $20K, do you see anything else worth considering?

I like the BP FF Milspec, AP 15300, Mosier Pioneer, FPJ Elegante, IWC Mark 18 and the JLC Polaris.

AP 15300 is a great looking watch, but its 50m water resistance would have me worried to wear it in the water. For me, in order to wear a watch swimming, it has to have a minimum of 100m WR. I’ve worn 50m watches in the ocean and it has not gone well.

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El-Duderino · 26 February 2018, 09:31 AM

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Sinn 104 in white

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Well, now I need a Sinn 104. Sigh.

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scarlet knight · 26 February 2018, 09:34 AM

I think it’s best to wear watches in the water that have an aquatic name: Submariner, Seadweller, Seamaster, Superocean, etc.

I keep my dress watches dry. I wear a $17 Casio in the water, personally.

scarlet knight · 26 February 2018, 09:37 AM

El-Duderino, the Sinn 104 is seriously sharp with a bright white face. My photo has a yellowish cast that detracts from the watch’s beauty. Sorry to add that, but the good news is that the watch is relatively affordable.

AK797 · 26 February 2018, 10:54 AM

Moser Pioneer and Glashutte Senators.

VFA · 26 February 2018, 12:10 PM

For me the answer is simple and obvious. Either get the rolex daytona or a grand seiko that you like. Done.

GB-man · 26 February 2018, 03:05 PM

F wr get a jumbo.

2Redbulls · 26 February 2018, 03:54 PM

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F wr get a jumbo.

I wish...hell will freeze over before I have the patience to wait until one comes up for sale.

Someone said Daytona...been there...

DCheeta · 26 February 2018, 04:10 PM

Hey Tom. My recommendation is one of the new Polaris models from SIHH 2018. Of course I haven’t seen them in the metal yet, but they seem to meet all of your criteria (and mine) for a perfect daily wearer.

PJ S · 27 February 2018, 03:06 AM

Right, quite your fannying about…get this bought, now!

https://www.chrono24.co.uk/hmosercie...-id7714139.htm

osamu · 27 February 2018, 04:03 AM

I really like the new JLC Polaris.

One a bit outside the box idea: Ressence Type 1.

DCheeta · 27 February 2018, 05:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2Redbulls

Thanks for the suggestions and links.

If I were to raise my budget to $20K, do you see anything else worth considering?

I like the BP FF Milspec, AP 15300, Mosier Pioneer, FPJ Elegante, IWC Mark 18 and the JLC Polaris.

Upping the budget to 20k puts you within range of the VC Overseas 3rd generation three-hander. That’s a beauty of a watch, and with the three different strap options included it makes a great daily.

tyler1980 · 27 February 2018, 08:00 AM

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Originally Posted by DCheeta

Hey Tom. My recommendation is one of the new Polaris models from SIHH 2018. Of course I haven’t seen them in the metal yet, but they seem to meet all of your criteria (and mine) for a perfect daily wearer.

yes... i was going to say the same thing. The only "issue" might be the smaller no date doesnt appear to have a rubber strap option and im not sold on the 42mm "date" version because i really don't think i like the date window on it.

The no date on rubber would be a winner.

DCheeta · 27 February 2018, 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by tyler1980

yes... i was going to say the same thing. The only "issue" might be the smaller no date doesnt appear to have a rubber strap option and im not sold on the 42mm "date" version because i really don't think i like the date window on it.

The no date on rubber would be a winner.

I agree completely. The no date version is the best size, with the most attractive dial. With the rubber strap it would be absolutely killer for an everyday piece.

25 February 2018, 11:46 AM	#1
2Redbulls "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Real Name: Tom Location: Morgan Hill, CA Watch: I give up.. Posts: 719	Looking for recommendations for a daily I’m in the process of selling off some pieces and I’m looking for a new daily wearer that will compliment my FP Journe CB. My criteria is as follows... Must fit a smaller wrist so 41mm or smaller. No leather strap, needs to be rubber or bracelet. Needs to have a water resistance rating for swimming. Time only (date function is nice but not required) Be under $15k new or preowned. Already owned Patek 5167, 5164, AP ROO Diver, Blancpain bathyscaphe, vacheron Overseas Chrono gen II. Blancpain Fifty Fathoms. Rolex Subs, seadwellers, yacht master I and II. Tudor Pelagos. Looked at Omegas and didn’t see anything I liked, nothing from Tudor either. Right now I’m considering FP Journe Elegante and H Mosier Pioneer. Any insight into what else I should be looking into?

25 February 2018, 11:13 PM	#10
karmatp "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Real Name: Trevor Location: Arizona Posts: 5,740	Sinn 104 is a great beater. Cheap, reliable and reviews of it are fantastic, also waterproof to 660ft. It is 41mm and comes on leather, you just need to grab a rubber strap. I plan on picking up a white dial for something different. I have a Mark XVIII and highly recommend it. I have the blue dial and it is honestly one of my favorite watches of all time. With that said, it is not really a summer diver. 6bar rated so yes you can swim with it, but it is happier in the air over water. __________________ My grails:

25 February 2018, 11:46 PM	#12
yoast "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: HK Posts: 2,257	How about an AP 15300 / 15400? __________________ IG: @yoast.watch https://www.instagram.com/yoast.watch/

26 February 2018, 03:05 PM	#23
GB-man 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: USA Watch: addiction issues Posts: 36,856	F wr get a jumbo. __________________

25 February 2018, 12:38 PM	#2
meganfox17 Banned Join Date: Aug 2016 Location: Kuala Lumpur , Ma Posts: 2,011	Megan's choice Breguet Ref 5817 ST Marine Big Date

25 February 2018, 01:12 PM	#4
2Redbulls "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Real Name: Tom Location: Morgan Hill, CA Watch: I give up.. Posts: 719	That's a great suggestion, not something I would have thought of. Thanks!

25 February 2018, 02:29 PM	#5
ap1 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: usa Posts: 19,035	The lugs on that breguet are huge, too large Pioneer moser is 42 and a large watch. It’s a beauty if you can pull it off. Omega trilogy Seamaster Jlc Polaris Date or no date - sihh18 Fifty fathoms milspec

25 February 2018, 02:56 PM	#6
El-Duderino "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2016 Location: Minneapolis, MN Posts: 610	Huh, that is actually a tougher question than I thought looking at your requirements and the list of previously owned pieces. I see the Breguet 5817 has already been mentioned, so even though these aren’t anywhere near $15k, here are a few that come to mind: BLNR, Zenith EL Primero 1969 with bracelet, PAM 048 or PAM 050 with bracelet, Grand Seiko SBGA211 or SBGJ201, or Blancpain Tribute Fifty Fathoms MIL-SPEC. But, yeah, probably a Submariner makes the most sense given your criteria. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

25 February 2018, 03:23 PM	#7
scarlet knight "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: USA Watch: Good ones Posts: 8,135	IWC Mark 18 on a bracelet? Mine is on leather. Sporty watch, not dressy.

25 February 2018, 03:26 PM	#8
scarlet knight "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: USA Watch: Good ones Posts: 8,135	IWC Mark 18 picture Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

25 February 2018, 03:31 PM	#9
PJ S Banned Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: UK Posts: 3,990	The Moser Pioneer in SS would be a very fine “daily” option, possibly more so than the Journe one mentioned, but be aware that the domed crystal makes it a tall watch. I’m too tired to write a long post about the various models you could/should investigate further, so I’ll just post the links and let the photos and specs give you food for thought, etc. Anything on leather can be had with rubber or bracelet, if not both… https://www.chrono24.co.uk/harrywins...-id7746176.htm – WG bracelet is/was an option. https://www.chrono24.co.uk/harrywins...-id7117401.htm – Pt bracelet is/was an option. https://www.chrono24.co.uk/girardper...-id7514026.htm https://www.chrono24.co.uk/girardper...-id7596876.htm https://www.chrono24.co.uk/girardper...-id7510433.htm https://www.chrono24.co.uk/girardper...-id7585165.htm https://www.chrono24.co.uk/girardper...-id4996472.htm https://www.chrono24.co.uk/girardper...-id4998991.htm https://www.chrono24.co.uk/girardper...-id7721086.htm https://www.chrono24.co.uk/girardper...-id7781230.htm – all ceramic version too. https://www.chrono24.co.uk/bulgari/o...-id7756067.htm https://www.chrono24.co.uk/bulgari/o...-id7282266.htm https://www.chrono24.co.uk/bulgari/o...-id7685184.htm https://www.chrono24.co.uk/bulgari/o...-id7158794.htm https://www.chrono24.co.uk/rogerdubu...-id7036782.htm https://www.chrono24.co.uk/rogerdubu...-id7653433.htm https://www.chrono24.co.uk/piaget/po...-id7781492.htm https://www.chrono24.co.uk/chopard/l...-id7782929.htm

25 February 2018, 11:30 PM	#11
scarlet knight "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: USA Watch: Good ones Posts: 8,135	Sinn 104 in white Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

26 February 2018, 02:44 AM	#13
2Redbulls "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Real Name: Tom Location: Morgan Hill, CA Watch: I give up.. Posts: 719	Thanks for the suggestions and links. If I were to raise my budget to $20K, do you see anything else worth considering? I like the BP FF Milspec, AP 15300, Mosier Pioneer, FPJ Elegante, IWC Mark 18 and the JLC Polaris.

26 February 2018, 02:50 AM	#14
scarlet knight "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: USA Watch: Good ones Posts: 8,135	Here’s a couple of AP Royal Oaks from the NYC boutique, not my watches Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

26 February 2018, 03:01 AM	#15
red1108nyc 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Real Name: Fred Location: NYC/NJ Metro Area Watch: Rolex Posts: 8,498	I vote for AP 15300 blue

26 February 2018, 09:34 AM	#19
scarlet knight "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: USA Watch: Good ones Posts: 8,135	I think it’s best to wear watches in the water that have an aquatic name: Submariner, Seadweller, Seamaster, Superocean, etc. I keep my dress watches dry. I wear a $17 Casio in the water, personally.

26 February 2018, 09:37 AM	#20
scarlet knight "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: USA Watch: Good ones Posts: 8,135	El-Duderino, the Sinn 104 is seriously sharp with a bright white face. My photo has a yellowish cast that detracts from the watch’s beauty. Sorry to add that, but the good news is that the watch is relatively affordable.

26 February 2018, 10:54 AM	#21
AK797 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Real Name: Neil Location: UK Watch: ing ships roll in Posts: 59,220	Moser Pioneer and Glashutte Senators.

26 February 2018, 12:10 PM	#22
VFA "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2018 Location: SG Posts: 391	For me the answer is simple and obvious. Either get the rolex daytona or a grand seiko that you like. Done.

26 February 2018, 04:10 PM	#25
DCheeta "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Real Name: Dave Location: NYC Posts: 7,180	Hey Tom. My recommendation is one of the new Polaris models from SIHH 2018. Of course I haven’t seen them in the metal yet, but they seem to meet all of your criteria (and mine) for a perfect daily wearer.

27 February 2018, 03:06 AM	#26
PJ S Banned Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: UK Posts: 3,990	Right, quite your fannying about…get this bought, now! https://www.chrono24.co.uk/hmosercie...-id7714139.htm

27 February 2018, 04:03 AM	#27
osamu "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2013 Location: Honolulu Posts: 1,322	I really like the new JLC Polaris. One a bit outside the box idea: Ressence Type 1.

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