Change of tide in supply?

[nmb]

In one of my local ADs windows yesterday,the following;
Steel LN GMT II
Both Polar and Black Explorer IIs
TWO! Milgauss GVs
Both Black and Blue Bimetal Subs
Bimetal GMT (the black one,Not the new one )
Bimetal black Daytona

I have not seen this selection all at once in a Yorkshire AD in a very long time.Not seen a steel GMT in an ADs window in over two years!
Note these are all brand new and the AD in question doesn't put 'spoken for' watches in the window.
Things have got that bad up 'ere' that even bimetal Subs and GMTs were a rare sight,is this a fluke or a sign that things are improving?Did not make a difference to me as it will be a few years before I consider whether I want another Rolex.Guess that is the result of buying my grail,two years in with my 18ct sub and honeymoon still isn't over

[Etschell]

lets hope so.

[Nairn1980]

Of all of these the Steel LN GMT is tricky to get these days.

That shouldn’t hang around long.

[Bt122]

Most of the ones you mentioned are not SS but TT, so not sure if there really is a change afoot.

[nmb]

I agree re the TT,but all together at the same time has been totally unheard of in a long time where I live in the UK.
When I bought my 5 digit Bluesy in the late 90's from an AD,there was a waiting list then for that model!
Generally in the UK previously,IMHO lots of TT models mean steel models are trickling through.At least in my part of the UK,I wouldn't even comment on London the situation there is ridiculous.

[beshannon]

And someone that goes in tomorrow and finds the selection empty will be back here writing how the supply is bad.

The only people that want unlimited inventory are buyers, those who want their values to rise are fine with shortages.

Econ 101

[AK797]

I don't really get why people are still over-buying the Exps and Milgausses, they will still lose money on flips.

[Rjongco]

TTS don’t seem too hard to come by. My local AD did have a deep sea and a black sub date in the case however.

[Fleetlord]

Originally Posted by AK797

I don't really get why people are still over-buying the Exps and Milgausses, they will still lose money on flips.

They are dogs.

Nice watches, but dogs

[brandrea]

Someone coughed up the keys to the back room

[AK797]

Originally Posted by Fleetlord

They are dogs.

Nice watches, but dogs

On these models I think Rolex might be reducing supply, but then with the others MIA surely this is the time to get these out and sold.

[mountainjogger]

Originally Posted by beshannon

And someone that goes in tomorrow and finds the selection empty will be back here writing how the supply is bad.

The only people that want unlimited inventory are buyers, those who want their values to rise are fine with shortages.

Econ 101

Bingo.

[TeddyS]

I remember seeing a ‘watch expert’ saying that they tipped Rolex to release the explorer ii with a ceramic bezel. It didn’t happen obviously but the mock-up he showed of the watch with new bezel totally changed it. 100% improvement.


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[oldman2005]

Originally Posted by nmb

In one of my local ADs windows yesterday,the following;

Both Black and Blue Bimetal Subs
Bimetal GMT (the black one,Not the new one )
Bimetal black Daytona

TT are less desirable and readily available

[SLS]

Originally Posted by TeddyS

I remember seeing a ‘watch expert’ saying that they tipped Rolex to release the explorer ii with a ceramic bezel. It didn’t happen obviously but the mock-up he showed of the watch with new bezel totally changed it. 100% improvement.


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That would be an intersting change.

[Speedbird-1]

Originally Posted by Fleetlord

They are dogs.

Nice watches, but dogs

I DO so love, a well observed, finely crafted, critique!

[RolexNorth]

Originally Posted by nmb

In one of my local ADs windows yesterday,the following;
Steel LN GMT II
Both Polar and Black Explorer IIs
TWO! Milgauss GVs
Both Black and Blue Bimetal Subs
Bimetal GMT (the black one,Not the new one )
Bimetal black Daytona

I have not seen this selection all at once in a Yorkshire AD in a very long time.Not seen a steel GMT in an ADs window in over two years!
Note these are all brand new and the AD in question doesn't put 'spoken for' watches in the window.
Things have got that bad up 'ere' that even bimetal Subs and GMTs were a rare sight,is this a fluke or a sign that things are improving?Did not make a difference to me as it will be a few years before I consider whether I want another Rolex.Guess that is the result of buying my grail,two years in with my 18ct sub and honeymoon still isn't over

That's not unusual to see here in Canada. In Canada, you can add a Sub Date and SubND to that list of model's you'd see in the typical AD display case.

[Sal_UKSheffield]

Where abouts in yorkshire?

[nmb]

PM me if you are serious already had two messages enquiring,sorry for the delay,I work nights.

[seadweller43]

i think not until one day we see at least the black sub date in the dislay case can one say the supply trend has changed.

[Pudsey bear]

Well, I just spoke to the AD as Nigel (nmb) kindly told me which AD it was. They said the GMT was never on the window and there is a long waiting list for it which is closed. And there was me thinking I had a chance lol...

Thanks Nigel anyway.

[AK797]

Originally Posted by Pudsey bear

Well, I just spoke to the AD as Nigel (nmb) kindly told me which AD it was. They said the GMT was never on the window and there is a long waiting list for it which is closed. And there was me thinking I had a chance lol...

Thanks Nigel anyway.

I think Rolex have been encouraging ADs to put SS in the windows, at least for a few days, even if there are wait lists, as otherwise the whole Rolex machine looks shambolic and inefficient and us lot constantly showing empty AD windows is not helping.

[Pudsey bear]

Originally Posted by AK797

I think Rolex have been encouraging ADs to put SS in the windows, at least for a few days, even if there are wait lists, as otherwise the whole place looks shambolic and us lot constantly showing empty AD windows is not helping.

That was my initial thoughts too when I got a response back. Of course, I have no reason to believe nmb was lying in his OP.

[Lemieux66]

Rare to see even TT sports in AD windows now. In fact, saw a 116613LB in Leicester Goldsmiths last week which was not something I'd spotted for a long time. Didn't last long either.

I'd rather buy PM pieces anyway, so the drought wouldn't affect my purchase decisions...Just a shame I can't afford a nice PM right now! :/

[benlee]

Originally Posted by AK797

I think Rolex have been encouraging ADs to put SS in the windows, at least for a few days, even if there are wait lists, as otherwise the whole Rolex machine looks shambolic and inefficient and us lot constantly showing empty AD windows is not helping.

If they put it in window display, and walk in customers asked and can't buy, they are going to get upset. No? I think recently, there's a thread on this.

In my part of the world ( Asia ), practically everything being displayed is either DJ or DD, with some occasional Exp2 or Milgauss, almost never a professional SS sports model.

[codecow]

It wouldn’t surprise me if there were Tide shortages with all those kids eating Tide pods.

[Rolex addict]

Originally Posted by AK797

I don't really get why people are still over-buying the Exps and Milgausses, they will still lose money on flips.

Every AD I've been in the past several months have Exp2 and milgausses in stock along with no date subs. On another happy note, I just received a text that an AD I use is receiving a shipment of Rolex watches this week. I'm curious what they're getting. May have to take a ride up there next week and check it out.

[Lemieux66]

Originally Posted by codecow

It wouldn’t surprise me if there were Tide shortages with all those kids eating Tide pods.

Well, both the Rolex SS wait list and Tide tablets leave a sour taste in the mouth

[nmb]

Now this is interesting,watch was there and I wasn't dreaming.They do not put watches in window that are spoken for.I bet this is because it was a phone enquiry.I bought a BLNR from this dealer and had a choice between that and a sub LV.Both were in the window.The tale I got was they phoned everyone on the list for the BLNR and no one was ready to purchase.
One AD I deal with is paranoid about selling to anyone out of the area,particularly anyone from London due to flippers.I thought Fraser Hart may be a little different,obviously not.
Further to my original post,TT subs especially the bluesy are a rare sight in the UK,I know that must seem unbelievable to our friends across the pond,but the UK really feels like "The land that Rolex forgot"

[Pudsey bear]

Originally Posted by nmb

Now this is interesting,watch was there and I wasn't dreaming.They do not put watches in window that are spoken for.I bet this is because it was a phone enquiry.I bought a BLNR from this dealer and had a choice between that and a sub LV.Both were in the window.The tale I got was they phoned everyone on the list for the BLNR and no one was ready to purchase.
One AD I deal with is paranoid about selling to anyone out of the area,particularly anyone from London due to flippers.I thought Fraser Hart may be a little different,obviously not.
Further to my original post,TT subs especially the bluesy are a rare sight in the UK,I know that must seem unbelievable to our friends across the pond,but the UK really feels like "The land that Rolex forgot"

No of course I don't doubt you mate. How common is it to see BLNRs and Hulks on the window (EDIT: or was that a long time ago)? I might go up there if Subs/GMTs are common to see in the window.

I agree with you though that ADs aren't keen on enquiries of popular watches by phone calls or emails.