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Hank · 31 October 2023, 10:09 PM

I am having a hard time choosing between 2 of these 42mm Submersibles - PAM 1068 and PAM 1223/2223. They are priced around the same on the secondary market and both watches have their respective appeal. I know it’s purely subjective but curious to see what the members here prefer. Here are photos of each watch in question.

PAM 1068 with a sunburst blue dial, ceramic bezel and steel bracelet.

PAM 1223/2223 with a clean white dial

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1William · 31 October 2023, 10:33 PM

I prefer the 1068 for the bracelet option and the color of blue. My AD has this watch and I have almost bought it several times. Both being 42mm I think that the 1223 looks smaller. Might have to do with the strap. Let us know what you decide.

alllexandru · 1 November 2023, 12:02 AM

1068 but I like blue watches and have no white dial watch :D
Out of these two the blue is the one

tedo · 1 November 2023, 04:16 AM

PAM white dials are great, my choice here — but I would even step up to 44mm personally

Cru Jones · 1 November 2023, 07:15 AM

White dial PAM Subs are

hojlund · 1 November 2023, 07:37 AM

white dial 1223 for me，it's much cheaper and you can always buy another steel bracelet for variety, which would match the white dial beautifully. I've tried on the 1068 before, the blue colour of the dial is kind of too deep for my taste, don't like it.

Hank · 1 November 2023, 11:11 AM

Appreciate the feedback, guys. Never owned a Panerai on a steel bracelet but the white seems more versatile when it comes to strap options.

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juve · 1 November 2023, 11:56 AM

PAM 1223/2223 for me

emtee · 3 November 2023, 04:39 AM

I wish the white had a black ceramic bezel, I think the contrast with the white dial would look great.

shammad10 · 4 November 2023, 06:28 AM

Hi, I had the white dial 42mm submersible. Lovely watch, but ended up selling it.
The main issue for me is that the steel bezel doesn't give enough contrast on the dial and sometimes looks washed out.

DoricSpiker · 4 November 2023, 08:58 AM

I would go white dial here

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Gerry62 · 4 November 2023, 09:11 PM

Sub white for me

Hank · 6 November 2023, 02:32 PM

Went with the white dial PAM 2223 :)

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hojlund · 6 November 2023, 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Hank

Went with the white dial PAM 2223 :)

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sharp and beautiful, congratulations!

Hank · 6 November 2023, 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by hojlund

sharp and beautiful, congratulations!

Thank you, hojlund.

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lcs77 · 9 November 2023, 01:26 AM

White sub for sure

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Michael1968 · 9 November 2023, 01:39 AM

White dial for me

cincytri · 5 February 2024, 12:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Gerry62

Sub white for me

Ugh. This looks really great. Is that a 42 or 44? I have been interested in the 42 since its release, but never have been able to see one in person. I have this feeling building up and I know it ends with me buying a 683, 682, or this Bianco 1223.

Pamfan · 8 February 2024, 03:44 AM

I also had the white and agree with someone who said it doesn’t provide enough contrast between the SS bezel and white dial.
I like the 1068 and size and special steel bracelet are cool.

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31 October 2023, 10:09 PM	#1
Hank "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Shanghai Posts: 1,624	PAM 1068 (Blu Notte) vs 1223/2223 (Sub Bianco) I am having a hard time choosing between 2 of these 42mm Submersibles - PAM 1068 and PAM 1223/2223. They are priced around the same on the secondary market and both watches have their respective appeal. I know it’s purely subjective but curious to see what the members here prefer. Here are photos of each watch in question. PAM 1068 with a sunburst blue dial, ceramic bezel and steel bracelet. PAM 1223/2223 with a clean white dial Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

1 November 2023, 04:16 AM	#4
tedo "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2021 Location: CA Posts: 468	PAM white dials are great, my choice here — but I would even step up to 44mm personally __________________ Both past and present … Santos de Cartier • Hublot BB • Panerai Luminor • Patek Calatrava • AP Royal Oak • Omega • Hermès • Breitling • Rolex • IWC Schaffhausen • TAG Heuer • Doxa

4 November 2023, 09:11 PM	#12
Gerry62 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Italy Watch: Rolex Panerai Posts: 7,156	Sub white for me __________________

9 November 2023, 01:26 AM	#16
lcs77 "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2018 Location: Earth Posts: 436	White sub for sure Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk __________________ 116515LN - 116600 SD4K - 116710BLNR Batman - 116610LV Hulk - 16013 Datejust - 116500LN Black - 116500LN White - 126710BLRO Pepsi - 126610LV - 126711CHNR - 124300 Green - PAM 1223 - 226570 Black

31 October 2023, 10:33 PM	#2
1William 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: North Carolina Watch: Rolex/Others Posts: 44,909	I prefer the 1068 for the bracelet option and the color of blue. My AD has this watch and I have almost bought it several times. Both being 42mm I think that the 1223 looks smaller. Might have to do with the strap. Let us know what you decide.

1 November 2023, 12:02 AM	#3
alllexandru 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Real Name: Alex Location: Old continent Posts: 2,317	1068 but I like blue watches and have no white dial watch :D Out of these two the blue is the one

1 November 2023, 07:15 AM	#5
Cru Jones 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Paris, France Posts: 34,525	White dial PAM Subs are

1 November 2023, 07:37 AM	#6
hojlund "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2023 Location: london Posts: 269	white dial 1223 for me，it's much cheaper and you can always buy another steel bracelet for variety, which would match the white dial beautifully. I've tried on the 1068 before, the blue colour of the dial is kind of too deep for my taste, don't like it.

1 November 2023, 11:11 AM	#7
Hank "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Shanghai Posts: 1,624	Appreciate the feedback, guys. Never owned a Panerai on a steel bracelet but the white seems more versatile when it comes to strap options. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

1 November 2023, 11:56 AM	#8
juve "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2019 Real Name: Boris Location: CT Posts: 884	PAM 1223/2223 for me

3 November 2023, 04:39 AM	#9
emtee "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2017 Real Name: Matt Location: UK Posts: 1,239	I wish the white had a black ceramic bezel, I think the contrast with the white dial would look great.

4 November 2023, 06:28 AM	#10
shammad10 "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2021 Location: UK Posts: 809	Hi, I had the white dial 42mm submersible. Lovely watch, but ended up selling it. The main issue for me is that the steel bezel doesn't give enough contrast on the dial and sometimes looks washed out.

4 November 2023, 08:58 AM	#11
DoricSpiker 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Apr 2021 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 1,281	I would go white dial here Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

6 November 2023, 02:32 PM	#13
Hank "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Shanghai Posts: 1,624	Went with the white dial PAM 2223 :) Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

9 November 2023, 01:39 AM	#17
Michael1968 Banned Join Date: Aug 2021 Real Name: Michael Location: Europe Watch: UN,RolexTudor&more Posts: 2,742	White dial for me

8 February 2024, 03:44 AM	#19
Pamfan "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2023 Real Name: Chris Location: USA Tennessee Watch: Omega Speedy Tuesd Posts: 55	I also had the white and agree with someone who said it doesn’t provide enough contrast between the SS bezel and white dial. I like the 1068 and size and special steel bracelet are cool. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

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