User Drewkeffler scam

[ferdiep]

I recently bought a rolex sub 114060 from this user drewkeffler.
User was a member since 2017, had 60 or so posts, provided some references, and a drivers license ID.
I wired the money international on March 1, confirmed (after saying there were delays) he has gotten the money by March 7, but so far have not gotten the watch shipped as of time if this writing. User is no longer answering calls, text or mail.

I admit all things considered I should have scrutinized this user more. Lesson learned.

Please advise what can I do in this situation.
Aplogies if there is a another post that discusses this topic. Thank you

[Old Expat Beast]

I've banned Drewkeffler for now and removed his ads while we look into this.

[CorradoBrit]

Not finding his listing on TRF.

OK, found but blocked due to ban. He also had a Rolex GMT-Master II 116710 and Tudor Black Bay listed.

[Old Expat Beast]

Originally Posted by CorradoBrit

Not finding his listing on TRF.

I removed his listings.

[ferdiep]

Thank you. Let me know if there are more infos I can provide.

[Old Expat Beast]

Originally Posted by ferdiep

Thank you. Let me know if there are more infos I can provide.

There's not much we can do at this point, I'm afraid. Did you ask for references or do any kind of check on the seller?

[CorradoBrit]

Seller got a good review in Jan
https://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=653868

I checked the photos of his other watches and its obvious the hands belong to two different individuals. Clearly photos lifted from other sources. The delay tactics are another evidence of scam

[ferdiep]

Yes I did, one email came back with positive feedback though admitedly I did not cross check the user in the forum so presumably this may be fake. He also has a testimony in who's who on his previous dealing albeit again it was from a user (username: oldin) that looks to be light in activity at 50 or so posts. I definitely should have scrutnized more in restrospect.

Thank you for the swift action.

[Old Expat Beast]

oldin appears to be a scammer too, I just banned him. Doesn't look good for you at all ferdiep.

edit: drewkeffler and oldin are both the same guy.

[Vamp]

Damn! Hate to here stories like this. I like to think Karmas a bitch and this piece of dog shit will get what he deserves! Scum of the earth!

[ferdiep]

People like these eventually end up either homeless, in prison, or dead.

Tbh I cringe more because of the things I could have easily done and questioned to check and scrutinize. It's truly a hard lesson and a very expensive one for sure. I guess the silver lining is that these make us better eventually.

Oh well.

[e36allday]

I got scammed as well by this guy on a BlackBay.

He provided a phone number (770) 919-5883‬

And bank transfer info for a Gail Jones.

Account name:Gail Jones
Bank: Chase Bank
Account number:729627153
Routing number:061092387
Bank Address:1000 Peachtree St NE, Atlanta, GA 30309
Home address:161 Rose ct Apt 8 Manchester GA 31816
Swiftcode: CHASUS33


[Humble michael]

Once again don’t ever wire funds to any individual! Use pay pal or AMX or both. So sorry to hear. :-(

[CorradoBrit]

Originally Posted by e36allday

I got scammed as well by this guy on a BlackBay.

He provided a phone number (770) 919-5883‬

And bank transfer info for a Gail Jones.

Account name:Gail Jones
Bank: Chase Bank
Account number:729627153
Routing number:061092387
Bank Address:1000 Peachtree St NE, Atlanta, GA 30309
Home address:161 Rose ct Apt 8 Manchester GA 31816
Swiftcode: CHASUS33


Call your bank and and receiving bank and try to get funds frozen.

[TempoKing]

Originally Posted by CorradoBrit

Call your bank and and receiving bank and try to get funds frozen.

This is the second time a scammer is using Chase with someone else’s name

About 3 years ago a guy sold me An old ladies Rolex watch for 1.000
He gave me his “wife’s” account with chase to put the money in
Once I did ...he never send the watch to me ....I contacted the account holder
and I told her to send me back the 1.000 that does not belong to her
...and she said ...I see the 1000....But ...it is not in my account now....

I told her I am coming to KY to see you and we’ll go to the bank together
...another $300 expense later....The bank had no clue how this could happen
...they told me all looked fine ??

I told the lady account holder ...to reimburse me ..or I am going to the
local sheriffs department ...she had an HR Block business ....and she did
give me the money ...just lost the money to get there ...she was crying
and told me she was a single mother with 3 kids etc.
I left with just the $1.000 ...or $700...

Go and see the account holder and go to her bank together.
Somehow ...I believe the scammer and account holder are involved.

[rolexinfl]

Originally Posted by TempoKing

This is the second time a scammer is using Chase with someone else’s name

About 3 years ago a guy sold me An old ladies Rolex watch for 1.000
He gave me his “wife’s” account with chase to put the money in
Once I did ...he never send the watch to me ....I contacted the account holder
and I told her to send me back the 1.000 that does not belong to her
...and she said ...I see the 1000....But ...it is not in my account now....

I told her I am coming to KY to see you and we’ll go to the bank together
...another $300 expense later....The bank had no clue how this could happen
...they told me all looked fine ??

I told the lady account holder ...to reimburse me ..or I am going to the
local sheriffs department ...she had an HR Block business ....and she did
give me the money ...just lost the money to get there ...she was crying
and told me she was a single mother with 3 kids etc.
I left with just the $1.000 ...or $700...

Go and see the account holder and go to her bank together.
Somehow ...I believe the scammer and account holder are involved.

Correct, the account holders are knowingly working with the scammers. Sometimes, though, they themselves are 'scammed' and are elderly people who are being told a different story about why they just got the money by the scammer and etc.

[cajunron]

Originally Posted by TempoKing

This is the second time a scammer is using Chase with someone else’s name

About 3 years ago a guy sold me An old ladies Rolex watch for 1.000
He gave me his “wife’s” account with chase to put the money in
Once I did ...he never send the watch to me ....I contacted the account holder
and I told her to send me back the 1.000 that does not belong to her
...and she said ...I see the 1000....But ...it is not in my account now....

I told her I am coming to KY to see you and we’ll go to the bank together
...another $300 expense later....The bank had no clue how this could happen
...they told me all looked fine ??

I told the lady account holder ...to reimburse me ..or I am going to the
local sheriffs department ...she had an HR Block business ....and she did
give me the money ...just lost the money to get there ...she was crying
and told me she was a single mother with 3 kids etc.
I left with just the $1.000 ...or $700...

Go and see the account holder and go to her bank together.
Somehow ...I believe the scammer and account holder are involved.

I would take TempoKings advice. If he provided a bank account, he has to be involved with the account holder. PRESSURE this scumbag and DON"T LET UP! Don't let him get over on you! Good luck.

[DHISTORY]

Originally Posted by TempoKing

This is the second time a scammer is using Chase with someone else’s name

About 3 years ago a guy sold me An old ladies Rolex watch for 1.000
He gave me his “wife’s” account with chase to put the money in
Once I did ...he never send the watch to me ....I contacted the account holder
and I told her to send me back the 1.000 that does not belong to her
...and she said ...I see the 1000....But ...it is not in my account now....

I told her I am coming to KY to see you and we’ll go to the bank together
...another $300 expense later....The bank had no clue how this could happen
...they told me all looked fine ??

I told the lady account holder ...to reimburse me ..or I am going to the
local sheriffs department ...she had an HR Block business ....and she did
give me the money ...just lost the money to get there ...she was crying
and told me she was a single mother with 3 kids etc.
I left with just the $1.000 ...or $700...

Go and see the account holder and go to her bank together.
Somehow ...I believe the scammer and account holder are involved.

Was the money still in the account when you arrived to Kentucky or was it already transferred out to a different account?

[SOG DIVER]

While a TRF member, I am also a retired Federal agent. In the 1970s, my experience was with the GBI in north Georgia. The 770 area code is in N. Georgia/Atlanta metro area.
It is a working number. I called it and left a message that would be difficult to ignore.

For overseas purchases of Rolex watches-no matter the circumstances-know your seller. Do the EXTRA due diligence. You are buying the seller, not the watch. Rolex prices have climbed to the point where cautionary due diligence is a requirement. Your money only spends once. Buy from a known individual or reputable AD dealer with secured funds.
The safest is a cash/MO/cashier's check on local bank-at the bank. Even Pay Pal
has limitations. A bank wire of funds is excellent-but ONLY for the seller.

Caveat Emptor. Fraud is on the rise. Due diligence in ALL transactions. The $500 you save may cost you the watch and hard earned money.

[Jim Smyth]

Sorry to hear ferdiep. Karma is a Bitch and I hope the scammer gets served justice.

[havingagoodtime]

What a scary thread! I hope this turned out better than it seems like it was going. Also, thanks for bringing these to light so other forum members can exercise caution. We can never be too careful!

[aa909]

Originally Posted by CorradoBrit

Seller got a good review in Jan
https://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=653868

I checked the photos of his other watches and its obvious the hands belong to two different individuals. Clearly photos lifted from other sources. The delay tactics are another evidence of scam

that "good review" is from a new account (2 months old) and he's used it to build up his post count to look legit.

[aa909]

Originally Posted by Old Expat Beast

oldin appears to be a scammer too, I just banned him. Doesn't look good for you at all ferdiep.

edit: drewkeffler and oldin are both the same guy.

Damn, this sucks. Sorry OP, these scammers are such scum