Please Stop Unfair Rolex Bashing

[vernplum]

Originally Posted by JacksonStone

Ya beat me to it.

[Rocketman39]

The truth is the vast majority of members on this board, including me, have no clue what goes on inside Rolex or why they do it. The best we can do is enjoy the ride. I have enjoyed my Rolex for over 50 years. I enjoy my new ones just as much. Don't you ?

[tudorbaja27]

Did someone hurt your feelings, sweetheart?

[Onikage]

I'd rather the angry wis were on my side. Thanks.

[Homo Sapien X]

Well this is the only truth I found.
Rolex dominates 27% of the global market shares. The supply for particular models may well be tight, that’s where Rolex ADs come in to capitalise on us Rolex lovers.

Anyway, capitalism is real, very real and everywhere.

I don’t sugar coat the fact.


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[Likestheshiny]

Complaining about complaining is the new watch meta.

If complaining about complaining about complaining even becomes popular, my post here will hopefully be recognized as a pioneer.

[HogwldFLTR]

Let's see, Rolex is a non-profit. It's only official purpose is to make money for Rolex. Now that sounds like a very noble cause. I realize they sponsor some arts related ventures but seriously, I can't really see what value they bring to the world other than creating a luxury watch product. IMHO it doesn't justify their status as a non-profit. They are literally rolexing in dough. It's a brilliant plan for creating corporate wealth but hardly worth of adoration for their raison d'etre So what were the complaints about now?.

[Muxi]

I think it’s the durability of Rolex models that make people keep coming back for more. They just keep working, you know? That said, I am running out of models to choose. It’s like it’s more of the same with every new incoming.

[rambo99]

rolex is a charitable organization, which makes people consider buying a rolex a donation to the community.

[Exploradori]

Originally Posted by HogwldFLTR

Balogna. Rolex calls their own shots and is more than capable to dealing with the issues listed above. From a buyer's perspective they've been excluded and without a doubt that is Rolex's choice. I say make no apologies for them.

This

[Homo Sapien X]

Just buy a vintage datejust. It’s affordable and rock solid. Skip those AD


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[1William]

The OP is obviously entitled to his opinion but I disagree. Rolex is responsible for the current situation and any resolution will involve the company. Specific problem with availability, price, demand can all be discussed by the company and Rolex has remained quite on the subject. The discussion could be had and backed up that Rolex is manipulating the market. With that said, I still like the watches and have 4 in my collection. I will neither step up to protect the current practices nor will I disparage the company as with the information out in the public domain it is partial speculation as to what is going on. I understand the frustration but also understand that things are not the way I wish they were with a lot of thing.

[alphasports]

Originally Posted by Paul_I

OP trying to move up a list by sucking up I think.

This!

[dtwer]

This thread is such a classic example of first-world problem, haha!

“Oh I’m gonna hate on that bad, bad Rolex for not letting me spend my $10,000 on their watches! What do they expect me to do with my $10,000 now?”

Just kidding.. Humoring to see nonetheless!

Deep down I suspect we all love Rolex for what it does, with the difference only in degrees. I may just be projecting but it seems there are increasing posts recently of people getting their new blro’s and Daytona’s from their AD. If my observation is correct I think the thaw in shortage is not far ahead, Rolex’s new policies with its AD network may be working to curb the grays and scalpers.

As long as we continue to do our part in not giving in to the profiteering by the grays and scalpers, the bubble will burst sooner or later and we can once again buy our favorite Rolexes at a sane price.

[Etschell]

Nope. Rolex is a big boy. If they dont like it they can change. If they dont care they wont. But everyone is entitled to opine on the state things.

[TimeToWatch]

Great post. Rolex is firing on all cylinders and doing better than ever IMO.

[jlovda]

Originally Posted by SconnieBT

+1. Rolexs are not affordable on an average salary anymore. I honestly think this is why Tudor is doing so well as of late.

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My final comment in this thread. The fact that Tudor exists and is moving into a more prominent role for the company tells me the company is moving "down scale" to meet the demand for luxury timepieces for a lower level of customer. To read some comments you would think they are a separate company just paying rent to use the facilities. The company could just as well take all those Tudor resources and make more Rolexes if they wanted to. The quality level is not that different. What are the actual differences between an Audi and a Porsche?

[Chester01]

No, Rolex is not affordable. In the 50-end of the 1970’s they were expensive but attainable watches that middle class folks were able to obtain. Something like 200 bucks back then. Adjusted for inflation they would be like 1800. They went from a tool/sport watch maker to well selling the same watches but marketing them for a luxury crowd. Now perhaps the fact that watches are no longer really necessary (though still very much in my profession) and in response to the quartz craze went up market so to speak.

However I do agree with the basic premise, most Rolex watches are available to folks who are patient and they have little control over the gray.

[mistercoach32]

Please Stop Unfair Rolex Basher Bashing.


Reminds me of sitting at the breakfast table with my daughter when I catch her complaining about complaining.

[SconnieBT]

Design design design! Audi can't touch Porsche on their history and design. But Audi has it's own unique design and following. And likewise with tudor. Tudors used to be essentially the same as Rolex besides the movement. Tudor Submariners for instance. Tudor has now branched out and created their own original designs. And people are responding to them. For most watch enthusiasts, if the design doesn't speak to them, regardless of how great the movement etc is, they aren't buying the watch. Omega knows what I'm talking about.

Originally Posted by jlovda

My final comment in this thread. The fact that Tudor exists and is moving into a more prominent role for the company tells me the company is moving "down scale" to meet the demand for luxury timepieces for a lower level of customer. To read some comments you would think they are a separate company just paying rent to use the facilities. The company could just as well take all those Tudor resources and make more Rolexes if they wanted to. The quality level is not that different. What are the actual differences between an Audi and a Porsche?

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[Nikrnic]

Last year my AD thanked me for buying a Submariner with a discount. This year l thanked my AD for taking my 9k in exchange for a Blnr. I can't bash but give credit to Rolex. In the past year they have made the brand more exclusive than ever before.

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[Castlesinthesky]

A lot has been said about availability of some Rolex models both for and against increasing supply. We know that Rolex has no shareholders calling for increased dividends but its also true that all companies need to progress. So, how might this progress take shape?

We know that Rolex has relaunched the Tudor brand and that it has enjoyed great success with this endeavor. We would certainly expect this to have generated a good deal of revenue. Can we make the assumption that with all this extra revenue Rolex can afford to reduce the availability of some of its own models and deliberately sacrifice some Rolex revenue in order to make the brand a little less accessible, a little more prestigious? Could the strategy be to rely more on Tudor for revenue each year thus allowing Rolex to become increasing less accessible?

[nektar]

Funny post. But different. you know, RM has a problem.. mNo matter how much he raises the price, people will beg him to buy those pieces. I was watching a you tube interview. As long as there are crazy people out there to pay premium for a ss watch, Rolex can do whatever..


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[Sarosh]

No-one knows why Rolex do what they do, apart from Rolex. We’re all just strapped in for the ride. We’re all right where they want us to be. Lol

[jstan9]

Originally Posted by Rocketman39

The truth is the vast majority of members on this board, including me, have no clue what goes on inside Rolex or why they do it. The best we can do is enjoy the ride. I have enjoyed my Rolex for over 50 years. I enjoy my new ones just as much. Don't you ?

No truer words...

[jstan9]

Originally Posted by jlovda

My final comment in this thread. The fact that Tudor exists and is moving into a more prominent role for the company tells me the company is moving "down scale" to meet the demand for luxury timepieces for a lower level of customer. To read some comments you would think they are a separate company just paying rent to use the facilities. The company could just as well take all those Tudor resources and make more Rolexes if they wanted to. The quality level is not that different. What are the actual differences between an Audi and a Porsche?

Yep. My first Tudor, a North Flag, is an incredible watch. Perhaps Tudor will take over the SS aspect of Rolex? I have no idea, but whenever I walk into my beloved AD, the glass cases are empty save PM Rolexes.

[jstan9]

Originally Posted by TimeToWatch

Great post. Rolex is firing on all cylinders and doing better than ever IMO.

...And...this is hard to argue with...for the business of Rolex. How it impacts the future, who can say. I’d think somewhat negatively, at least from the perspective of WISs.

[jstan9]

Originally Posted by dtwer

This thread is such a classic example of first-world problem, haha!

“Oh I’m gonna hate on that bad, bad Rolex for not letting me spend my $10,000 on their watches! What do they expect me to do with my $10,000 now?”

Just kidding.. Humoring to see nonetheless!

Deep down I suspect we all love Rolex for what it does, with the difference only in degrees. I may just be projecting but it seems there are increasing posts recently of people getting their new blro’s and Daytona’s from their AD. If my observation is correct I think the thaw in shortage is not far ahead, Rolex’s new policies with its AD network may be working to curb the grays and scalpers.

As long as we continue to do our part in not giving in to the profiteering by the grays and scalpers, the bubble will burst sooner or later and we can once again buy our favorite Rolexes at a sane price.

I do think, even amongst the bitterest complainers, that TRF members love the fact that their Rolexes are paragons of value retention. Over and above all other mechanical watch brands.

I think you make a great point here.

[ian.thomas]

Hey guys!

I've been busy and just now seeing this awesome thread. I've got the grill going so who wants a burger and who wants a hotdog? Of course the popcorn is fresh as is the koolaid.

[cajerseyboy]

Wouldn’t it be great sitting in on the Rolex board meetings as their social media officer reads select threads from TRF that show how emotional their customers are about the brand, market and specific pieces.

IMO they revamped Tudor to be their high volume brand while making Rolex their luxury line with hard to get pieces and high priced easy to get pieces.

One thing is clear. Whatever they are doing it’s working. :)


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