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Old 4 December 2016, 02:24 AM   #1
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5711P 40th: Am I the only one?

Who initally thought it was amazing but now seeing the incomings have lost some love for she...

Of course still thinking is a beauty and very special

Would go for a previous platinum 5711 if had the chance...
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Old 4 December 2016, 02:28 AM   #2
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Want to love it but I really don't like that tombstone engraving.
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Old 4 December 2016, 02:33 AM   #3
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I like it but would probably just buy the SS version and use the rest of the money to buy a 5170.
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Old 4 December 2016, 02:39 AM   #4
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I'm on the other side. The recent incoming pics (see Bruno's) have made me want it even more.
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Old 4 December 2016, 02:45 AM   #5
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Apart from the original being more rare....can't say it has a huuuuge attraction. Would you rather have zero chance at a P or get a P with some writing on the front? If you look at Bruno's macro on the diamond indices you can see how beautifully set they are with attention to detail. Gold dial (bit of a so what) but PP had to do something so as not to detract from the investment value of the current P owners
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Old 4 December 2016, 03:08 AM   #6
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Apart from the original being more rare....can't say it has a huuuuge attraction. Would you rather have zero chance at a P or get a P with some writing on the front? If you look at Bruno's macro on the diamond indices you can see how beautifully set they are with attention to detail. Gold dial (bit of a so what) but PP had to do something so as not to detract from the investment value of the current P owners
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It is so lovely and the latest pictures are making me want one more.

If you want a 5711P then the 40th is your only option unless you pay a premium and get the original and very rare version on the used market. But then no diamonds which I'm loving.
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Old 4 December 2016, 04:20 AM   #7
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I like the baguettes but still would prefer the anniversary text to be on the caseback.
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Old 4 December 2016, 05:16 AM   #8
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A nice piece but for 100K it needs to be damn near perfect for Me. I don't care how subtle the embossed dates are because I can still see them in every real life pic so it would be an easy pass for myself but to each their own. I am very happy for the owners
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Old 4 December 2016, 05:35 AM   #9
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A nice piece but for 100K it needs to be damn near perfect for Me. I don't care how subtle the embossed dates are because I can still see them in every real life pic so it would be an easy pass for myself but to each their own. I am very happy for the owners
Agreed. I guess it's the same with Salmon dials - each to their own and the true beauty is in the eye of the beholder.
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Old 4 December 2016, 05:44 AM   #10
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Can't see that many dollars for platinum and an artificially created "rarity."

I'd prefer a Patek or Lange chrono, but it's all in the eye of the beholder.
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Old 4 December 2016, 05:59 AM   #11
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Agreed. I guess it's the same with Salmon dials - each to their own and the true beauty is in the eye of the beholder.
You make a great point. I only got mine because my friend Karl personally didn't care for Salmon color so he gave me the tip. Beauty is in the eye of the "beer holder" A bit off topic but at a Recent Hong Kong Auction via Hodinkee a WG Salmon Dial 3970 went for 459K and the same type 3970 in Rose with Silver Dial went for 200K less. In the words of Ben Clymer as to why it happened, "White metal, salmon dial. Simple as that. Patek collectors are gaga for this combination"

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Old 4 December 2016, 06:40 AM   #12
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valid comments all round - I do like the 5711P 40th but defo prefer the original which I wish i had ordered when i had the chance.

WG and Salmon is defo a winning combination in terms of collectibility (eventhough it may not be the most versatile colour combination for everyday wear).

Mike - you are on to a winner!
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Old 4 December 2016, 09:37 AM   #13
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I like it but would probably just buy the SS version and use the rest of the money to buy a 5170.
This.
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Old 4 December 2016, 09:43 AM   #14
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Having the SS version, its hard for me to justify getting the P at that price. If funds were unlimited I would have ordered one. :)
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Old 4 December 2016, 12:50 PM   #15
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The dilemma for me is this worth a 5327 Blue dial with some change or....the 5575 all over again when I justified not getting one due to not being able to see the hands and then when I saw one couldn't actually get one at retail
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Old 4 December 2016, 01:31 PM   #16
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...at a Recent Hong Kong Auction via Hodinkee a WG Salmon Dial 3970 went for 459K and the same type 3970 in Rose with Silver Dial went for 200K less.
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Was about to be totally floored by those very high prices, yet then saw the article where it was "Eric Clapton's 3970G Sold For $459,000, While His 5004 Sold For Over $50,000 Less, And His 3970R For Almost $200,000 Less". We're talking timepieces owned by Eric, so that changes thing quite a bit. Think of it like a Rolex 'Paul Newman' Daytona at auction and the results versus one PLN actually wore. As a point of interest, normal 3970er silver dial seem to sell for for about $85k (actual sale price).

It is curious to see Slowhand dumping some of his Pateks, will see if my friends can find out why he's doing it and report back. Not like he needs the $, so it is curious.

BTW, all the incredibly great things you hear about PLN are true, he was a truly amazing man both on and off the race track. If you want to donate to a wonderful organization, his Hole In The Wall Gang is a great way to help others. www.holeinthewallgang.org
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Old 4 December 2016, 02:21 PM   #17
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You make a great point. I only got mine because my friend Karl personally didn't care for Salmon color so he gave me the tip. Beauty is in the eye of the "beer holder" A bit off topic but at a Recent Hong Kong Auction via Hodinkee a WG Salmon Dial 3970 went for 459K and the same type 3970 in Rose with Silver Dial went for 200K less. In the words of Ben Clymer as to why it happened, "White metal, salmon dial. Simple as that. Patek collectors are gaga for this combination"

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Well you certainly had the patience of Job and its always good to see watches go to those that treaure them.
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Old 4 December 2016, 09:13 PM   #18
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Its still on my wish list.. I read about people saying its a tomb stone and all.. and not worth the extra $$$ but i still love it.
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Old 5 December 2016, 12:08 AM   #19
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I love everything about the Anniversary Edition. They really know how to seduce their clients and still maintain value of current 5711 models.

PP is a company that really care about their clientele.

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Old 5 December 2016, 03:03 AM   #20
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Just try it on your wrist and you will change your mind right away, I promise.
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Old 5 December 2016, 06:05 AM   #21
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Just try it on your wrist and you will change your mind right away, I promise.
You are very right, that has happened to me before.

I will actually be trying it on in a few days...

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I like it but would probably just buy the SS version and use the rest of the money to buy a 5170.
Yes, or more likely than a 5170, an FP Journe for me.
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Old 5 December 2016, 09:25 AM   #23
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I wasn't a fan and even after trying one on I still am not. That said it is well done but not for me
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Old 5 December 2016, 09:29 AM   #24
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Seeing some of the real life pics has made it look better to me. That said, I won't be sinking my funds into one anytime soon.

As others said above, I'd stick with the SS and something else.
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Old 5 December 2016, 01:22 PM   #25
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I thought they were great in pics, but seeing them in the metal: just amazing.
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Old 5 December 2016, 01:30 PM   #26
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I think the real pics look much better than the press pics. I'm not a buyer for lack of funds anyways.
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Old 5 December 2016, 08:00 PM   #27
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For that kind of cash I prefer and went with a unique piece from Voutilainen, and if I was very rich and for me 100K was nothing special, I think I would try to get the original 5711P, even at a premium, I still prefer it much much more to the anniversary model
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Old 5 December 2016, 11:30 PM   #28
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I would like to see it in person...but I think it's not for me
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Old 7 December 2016, 10:35 AM   #29
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I still like em
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Old 7 December 2016, 03:13 PM   #30
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Paul promised to pay my 2017 pledge fees if I get one...that has to be an incentive!!
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