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Old 12 May 2021, 09:37 AM   #1
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Fixing a small damage to edge of clasp (Daytona)

Hi everyone,

So a while ago, in a totally freak accident kind of a way, which happened right in front of me, my wife dropped her iphone and as she tried to catch the iphone in the air, the iphone landed on her left hand and the unprotected bottom edge of iphone landed vertically on the daytona's clasp, and it dinged the corner edge of the clasp. Well, it is not a smooth ding, it is a sharp cut into the metal, with a bit of the metal sticking out.

Normally for me, this would be a quick file and repair and move on kind of the deal.

But given this watch is a well loved Daytona, my wife's daily, and that the sharp corner rubs against delicate clothing and pulls on threads etc., I kind of need to have it fixed the right way. We have gotten by, by me cutting a piece of scotch tape (very thin and professional if I may say so myself) and covering that edge part of the clasp with it, to avoid the scratching and damaging clothing. Hey, I am an engineer after all and there is nothing that some duct tape can't fix!



I have taken it to the local Rolliworks shop and they have suggested to laser weld it and fix it, but the cost came out to be about $400 ish. Not bad but I wanted to make sure I am not overlooking other options. (and the price was from say a few months ago, that might be different now.)



Of course I also have the option of sending it to RSC and having the service done (not due for one, but it has been a while and perhaps not a bad idea anyway)... but i don't know if Rolex would be able to repair this tiny ding/damage or would they just quote me for a replacement clasp, and if so, what the cost would be.



I will attach a couple of pics to this. Please note: this is a well worn and well loved daytona, so there are plenty of micro scratches everywhere on it. I need to have this specific one fixed though, so no need to suggest I should live with it. I am asking for opinions and options to fix this. Thank you.


Last picture below is just to show the part number etc. for any pricing information that someone might be able to share. Thank you.






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Old 12 May 2021, 09:56 AM   #2
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RSC is very easy to deal with over the phone, so they should be able to give you the definitive answer, but I have this image from a while back. I don't know how current it is (or how to interpret it), but it's something.



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Do not send it to RSC USA UNLESS you can have the executive office affirm that they will laserweld instead of polish and refinish. Dallas NY they have the machine.

They will likely say they need it in their hand in order to assess and the polisher will do whatever he or she best sees fit.

So you may be better off sending it to somewhere like LAWW, tell them not to do anything or touch anything other than that section of the clasp.

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Fixing a small damage to edge of clasp (Daytona)

$400 dollar to fix that sounds really high IMHO; perhaps there are other options available like LAWW, Rikki, etc.


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RSC is very easy to deal with over the phone, so they should be able to give you the definitive answer, but I have this image from a while back. I don't know how current it is (or how to interpret it), but it's something.




Thank you. That is quite something, shows various parts might be available stand alone. That would be great. So thank you for sharing this. Really appreciate it regardless of whether it is applicable or current or not.


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Old 12 May 2021, 11:18 AM   #6
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Do not send it to RSC USA UNLESS you can have the executive office affirm that they will laserweld instead of polish and refinish. Dallas NY they have the machine.

They will likely say they need it in their hand in order to assess and the polisher will do whatever he or she best sees fit.

So you may be better off sending it to somewhere like LAWW, tell them not to do anything or touch anything other than that section of the clasp.

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Thanks. Good info you shared. Was considering LAWW as an option too ( seen some of their work on Instagram as well ).


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Fixing a small damage to edge of clasp (Daytona)

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$400 dollar to fix that sounds really high IMHO; perhaps there are other options available like LAWW, Rikki, etc.


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Thanks bud for the reply. To be fair, and to not misquote or misrepresent Rolliworks, I think - if I remember correctly - $400 included an overall polish as well, to being the rest of the watch to match the clasp that would have to be polished as part of the work. ( weld, polish the clasp, then rest of the watch doesn’t match so polish the rest of the watch , etc. )

I am actually wanting to send the watch to RSC for a maintenance anyway, reason for choosing RSC being mostly the warranty card. bought this watch with no papers from DavidSW a long time ago so kind of was thinking of doing the RSC thing for the warranty card etc.

So worry was about going with a fix outside of RSC which could cause problems later on ( repaired clasp, no longer authentic , etc ) vs. say a $400 (?) clasp replacement with RSC. And paying a little more but keeping the watch all original and such.


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Old 12 May 2021, 11:46 AM   #8
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That’s not going to be a difficult fix for RSC or any other of the competent watchmakers that were mentioned here. Have it polished up and enjoy it for decades to come.


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Thanks bud for the reply. To be fair, and to not misquote or misrepresent Rolliworks, I think - if I remember correctly - $400 included an overall polish as well, to being the rest of the watch to match the clasp that would have to be polished as part of the work. ( weld, polish the clasp, then rest of the watch doesn’t match so polish the rest of the watch , etc. )

I am actually wanting to send the watch to RSC for a maintenance anyway, reason for choosing RSC being mostly the warranty card. bought this watch with no papers from DavidSW a long time ago so kind of was thinking of doing the RSC thing for the warranty card etc.

So worry was about going with a fix outside of RSC which could cause problems later on ( repaired clasp, no longer authentic , etc ) vs. say a $400 (?) clasp replacement with RSC. And paying a little more but keeping the watch all original and such.


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Seems like RSC is the right path then Faz !


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Old 12 May 2021, 12:35 PM   #10
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I would personally send something like this to LAWW in a heartbeat (or Rolliworks, although my own experience is with LAWW), as they are both extremely competent in cosmetic refinishing, and you are going to have a more direct line with the person doing the actual work. This is what they specialize in. It might not be the cheapest option but it will yield excellent results on the watch that is extremely important to you.
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If you are in the bay area then Rolliworks is the answer, they are located in Campbell, CA and I believe this would be an easy fix for them. They would laser weld and refinish back to original. There are plenty of posts on this forum regarding their work and they specialize in bracelet repair and refurbish. Good luck! https://www.rolliworks.com/ they do amazing work with bracelets.
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I would personally send something like this to LAWW in a heartbeat (or Rolliworks, although my own experience is with LAWW), as they are both extremely competent in cosmetic refinishing, and you are going to have a more direct line with the person doing the actual work. This is what they specialize in. It might not be the cheapest option but it will yield excellent results on the watch that is extremely important to you.
This! What you pay may not be as important to you in the long run as the quality of the repair. Good luck!
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Thank you. That is quite something, shows various parts might be available stand alone. That would be great. So thank you for sharing this. Really appreciate it regardless of whether it is applicable or current or not.

Actually you have a 78490 clasp and his chart was the newer 78590 clasp.

You could opt for it since the blade hinges are better imho but you’d pay more than just having it laser welded.

In the meantime your wife can just apply a thin dab of clear nail polish- maybe 2 or 3 applications. It’ll fill the sharp edge until you replace or laser weld it.



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I would personally send something like this to LAWW in a heartbeat (or Rolliworks, although my own experience is with LAWW), as they are both extremely competent in cosmetic refinishing, and you are going to have a more direct line with the person doing the actual work. This is what they specialize in. It might not be the cheapest option but it will yield excellent results on the watch that is extremely important to you.

Thank you. Great to hear more positive feedback about LAWW).


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If you are in the bay area then Rolliworks is the answer, they are located in Campbell, CA and I believe this would be an easy fix for them. They would laser weld and refinish back to original. There are plenty of posts on this forum regarding their work and they specialize in bracelet repair and refurbish. Good luck! https://www.rolliworks.com/ they do amazing work with bracelets.

Thanks. I am in the Bay Area and know their location. Great to hear more positive feedback in them too. Was mostly wondering and wanted to see what others would do in this scenario. Also since I didn’t ( still don’t) know how much a clasp would cost from Rolex ( as part of a service), didn’t want to go spend money on repairing the clasp If a new one would cost within a reasonable difference.


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This! What you pay may not be as important to you in the long run as the quality of the repair. Good luck!

I agree completely. Thanks.


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Actually you have a 78490 clasp and his chart was the newer 78590 clasp.

You could opt for it since the blade hinges are better imho but you’d pay more than just having it laser welded.

In the meantime your wife can just apply a thin dab of clear nail polish- maybe 2 or 3 applications. It’ll fill the sharp edge until you replace or laser weld it.



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Thanks for sharing info on the difference. Great suggestion with the clear mail polish too.


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That will polish out quite nicely at the RSC.
You will not be able to see with the naked eye. I had a clasped with similar damage and came back looking new without any welding.

Just make sure they don’t polish the crown on the clasp.
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RSC is definitely more than capable enough to restore that clasp, however, they would likely insist on a full service / overhaul done along with the refinishing due to the age of your watch.
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Speaking for myself that ding is so miniscule would wait till next full RSC service and sort it out then, and no way would I spend $400 to have that tiny ding fixed.
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Hope you get it sorted Faz

That’s a heck of a ding ... what’s the IPhone look like?
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Plenty of good options listed. I would send it in to Rolex and have a complete service and repair. It will be costly but so is a Daytona. You will get the service papers and all will be good.
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Plenty of good options listed. I would send it in to Rolex and have a complete service and repair. It will be costly but so is a Daytona. You will get the service papers and all will be good.
As would I. Good luck OP.
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I’d take a super fine diamond file / rod and knock the burr down and be done with it till service, and then have it polished.
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A thin ceramic rod (like the ones used for honing a fine knife) can knock back the burr - but you do run the risk of making things worse. Not a DIY.

If you want to do that, any bench jeweler would likely do it gratis while you’re shopping for the next baubles for your wife.


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That will polish out quite nicely at the RSC.

You will not be able to see with the naked eye. I had a clasped with similar damage and came back looking new without any welding.



Just make sure they don’t polish the crown on the clasp.

Thanks. Good to know RSC can polish and fix that.



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It is almost time for a full service anyway. Cost of maintenance is ok relative to the value of the watch these days.


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Yes that would be something I would do in a heartbeat if it were any of my watches. This being the wife’s watch, and with the Daytona being so valuable these days, won’t try a diy on it

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Speaking for myself that ding is so miniscule would wait till next full RSC service and sort it out then, and no way would I spend $400 to have that tiny ding fixed.

Always appreciate your feedback, you are always the voice of reason. Thanks.

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Hope you get it sorted Faz



That’s a heck of a ding ... what’s the IPhone look like?


It was so stupid I would not have believed it if it didn’t happen right in front of me. iPhone X, looked pretty good afterwards. It was like 8 inches of drop before landing on the clasp. Just a freak situation all around.

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I think you'll get more dinks, esp on clasp. May as well wait?

I find it liberating once its got past the clinical new from factory took.
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Fixing a small damage to edge of clasp (Daytona)

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I think you'll get more dinks, esp on clasp. May as well wait?

I find it liberating once its got past the clinical new from factory took.

Thanks. This watch is way past its fresh from factory look. It is well loved ( read beat up and worn daily) and subject to loving abuse beyond what most on this forum will subject their beloved Daytona to so this is definitely not a case of trying to keep this watch pristine condition. The chip has made a sharp edge that given its location catches on clothes and has to be dealt with.


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If it sticks up too much, I would tap it down then hit it with a fine file.

It's not worth 400 bucks to repair something that will get a lot of knocks and scrapes going forward.
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