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Psmith · 15 November 2009, 05:27 PM

Just curious...

Price aside, which would you choose if you could only have one?

Oh, and why?

Cheers

rr-nyc · 15 November 2009, 06:12 PM

312 All the way

Why...Where do I start?

1950 case
P. 9000 movement
Crown protector (REG. T.M. stamped)
Date
9 balances out the dial

TswaneNguni · 15 November 2009, 06:22 PM

Tripple One !!!

Classic Luminor case
Manual winding, robust and accurate movement
Classic sandwich dial and dial setup.Open,classic,simple stylish and inviting
Polished case
Crystal back
I have one and am biased !!

Wearing mine on a stonewashed tan Julien Landa at the moment.

1950s case in 47mm is the winner

...in 44mm not so sure..

Trurolexer · 15 November 2009, 06:58 PM

312 all the way!!!

gmtobsessed · 15 November 2009, 07:18 PM

I prefer 111, manual wind make it more unique.

gmtobsessed · 15 November 2009, 07:18 PM

sorry. double post

Joey_V · 15 November 2009, 08:10 PM

312 without a question. It is simply an evolution of the Panerai brand as we know it today.

CorruptedSanity · 15 November 2009, 08:38 PM

Its eveything a Luminor should be IMO.

-Marina
-1950s case
-brushed & polished case
-slightly domed
- INHOUSE movement
-clean dial
-sandwich dial
-reasonable

RedBaronF2001 · 16 November 2009, 12:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SaifAlSuwaidi

Its eveything a Luminor should be IMO.

-Marina
-1950s case
-brushed & polished case
-slightly domed
- INHOUSE movement
-clean dial
-sandwich dial
-reasonable

I'll add the awesome quick strap change system. It takes seconds, literally, to change the look of the 312.

Nica64 · 16 November 2009, 02:49 AM

312 all the way!! the 111 is not that far behind on my Panerai wish list

CorruptedSanity · 16 November 2009, 04:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RedBaronF2001

I'll add the awesome quick strap change system. It takes seconds, literally, to change the look of the 312.

Good one.

And so we don't sound like horrid little fanboys, I will mention the only negative the masses mention. The lack of super dome. I too was disappointed at first and even for a few weeks after getting the watch(check my posts from months ago on this forum and others). But then I realized why Panerai chose to make it slightly domed and that is so it functions as a daily watch. A super dome would have obstructed your vision of time and more importantly been a hassle to maneuver your wrist in order to avoid hitting the dome around.

Psmith · 19 November 2009, 08:33 PM

The 312 is spanking the 111 in the poll...

The inhouse movement seems to be an important factor, the date perhaps a little less so. Funny thing about PAMs is that they turn my watch preferences upside down. Usually I dislike sub-seconds, lack of date, any polish, etc. but these features work so well in many PAM designs. Something I dislike is a PAM on a bracelet - looks all wrong to me...

Cheers

fishrising · 19 November 2009, 09:34 PM

312 here too...for all reasons mentioned so far...but my number one reason is the date, I can't remember the date for 30 seconds after I read it on my watches...

Psmith · 19 November 2009, 10:05 PM

Here's a pic each of our two contenders, just to lively things up a bit...

Have to say that I prefer the hands on the 111. Love how they match the hour markers

ocwatching · 20 November 2009, 02:09 AM

between the two and if you can spring the additional dough...312...
but after appreciating PAMs for a while..I can see the allure of 111 and the historical significance...
I am actually looking at a 183 (historical rad) as my next one...
have fun!

omg · 20 November 2009, 02:42 AM

I'd go with 111, and save more $ for 210 :)
2 watches = more fun

Have you tried both on yet? Which one is smiling at you more?

sandytn · 20 November 2009, 03:37 AM

111 would be my choice. Love the elegance and simplicity of the dial, without the date. Manual wind also makes it more unique.

stockae92 · 20 November 2009, 04:25 AM

312 ...

1950 case and *reasonable* price for a in-house Panerai movement

mfer · 20 November 2009, 04:52 AM

I chose the 111 not just b/c I have it. I just like the historics myself.

Joey_V · 20 November 2009, 06:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ocwatchnewbie

between the two and if you can spring the additional dough...312...
but after appreciating PAMs for a while..I can see the allure of 111 and the historical significance...
I am actually looking at a 183 (historical rad) as my next one...
have fun!

Last time I checked, my AD has the 183.

Back to topic, 312 is a good balance of price, perceived value, style.

DWBOD · 20 November 2009, 09:13 AM

I can tell you that on my wrist the 328 (312) is actually more comfortable. The 1950 caseback actually lifts the crown guard off the wrist a bit and makes it very comfortable. I have owned 5 Pam's and the 328 is my favorite. For those who aren't aware, the 328 is the same as the 312 exactly except for the bracelet. I actually removed the bracelet at the AD and have not worn it since.

Doug

stockae92 · 20 November 2009, 09:16 AM

312 is thicker than 111? whats the measurement?

Joey_V · 20 November 2009, 11:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DWBOD

I can tell you that on my wrist the 328 (312) is actually more comfortable. The 1950 caseback actually lifts the crown guard off the wrist a bit and makes it very comfortable. I have owned 5 Pam's and the 328 is my favorite. For those who aren't aware, the 328 is the same as the 312 exactly except for the bracelet. I actually removed the bracelet at the AD and have not worn it since.

Doug

I agree... the 1950 caseback is comfortable and lifts the case off the wrist in a more comfortable/natural manner than the regular Luminor caseback.

RedBaronF2001 · 20 November 2009, 12:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stockae92

312 is thicker than 111? whats the measurement?

The 312 is VERY thick - if there is any caveat to the watch this is it. I believe it measures over 18.5mm thick. At least 2mm thicker than the 000/005/111/112.

stockae92 · 20 November 2009, 01:31 PM

wow, i didn't realize 312 is over 18mm tall

i might have to rethink my DSSD vs 312 ...

TswaneNguni · 20 November 2009, 02:06 PM

201A/202A/203A/111/005 etc. .... love the classic Luminor case .... When I think Panerai,I see the classic Luminor case.

In the 1950s case...the 47s,are VERY nice.Yummy !!

289 wears comfortable on the wrist.True,the 1950s cased watch do lift the crown guard from the wrist.The 1950s cased watches do have some really sexy lines !!

Thats the probem folks .... all Panerai watches are nice !!

Carlo Miguel · 20 November 2009, 02:37 PM

312...... definitly my next watch.

dantheman20192 · 20 November 2009, 08:20 PM

312 byyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy that much.... It is an amazing piece

JF23 · 20 November 2009, 11:19 PM

If the 312 was available back when I picked up my 111 it would have won out for sure.

vh_bu98 · 21 November 2009, 09:28 AM

I like the look of the 111 since I feel that it's more balance. The second hand on the 312 next to the 9 throws things off for me.

View Poll Results: 111 or 312 ?
I choose the 111	15	23.08%
I choose the 312	50	76.92%
Voters: 65. You may not vote on this poll

15 November 2009, 05:27 PM	#1
Psmith "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Real Name: Clive Location: Exoplanet Watch: spring-driven Posts: 38,856	111 or 312 Just curious... Price aside, which would you choose if you could only have one? Oh, and why? Cheers __________________

15 November 2009, 06:22 PM	#3
TswaneNguni "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Real Name: Chris Location: . Watch: Daytonas/Subs/GMTs Posts: 12,608	Tripple One !!! Classic Luminor case Manual winding, robust and accurate movement Classic sandwich dial and dial setup.Open,classic,simple stylish and inviting Polished case Crystal back I have one and am biased !! Wearing mine on a stonewashed tan Julien Landa at the moment. 1950s case in 47mm is the winner...in 44mm not so sure..

15 November 2009, 08:10 PM	#7
Joey_V "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Real Name: Joey Location: Dallas, TX Watch: SS Sub 16610 M Posts: 3,824	312 without a question. It is simply an evolution of the Panerai brand as we know it today. __________________ Current Rotation: Rolex Submariner Date (M) - 1/08, Rolex Milgauss GV (V) - 2/10, Rolex SS Black Daytona (V) - 6/10, Rolex GMTIIC (G) - 5/11, TAG Heuer Silverstone (286/1860) - 1/2015 Former-watches: Omega PO/2535.80/2254, TAG Carrera/F1x2/Monaco, Panerai 312K/292L Wish List: Panerai 270/505, Rolex SMURF, Rolex RG Daytona, Rolex DSSD

16 November 2009, 02:49 AM	#10
Nica64 "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: USA Posts: 2,596	312 all the way!! the 111 is not that far behind on my Panerai wish list __________________ ______________________________ You can't turn back the clock. But you can wind it up again.

15 November 2009, 06:12 PM	#2
rr-nyc Liar & Ratbag Join Date: Nov 2009 Real Name: Renato Location: NYC / Miami Beach Watch: Rolex Daytona Posts: 5,344	312 All the way Why...Where do I start? 1950 case P. 9000 movement Crown protector (REG. T.M. stamped) Date 9 balances out the dial

15 November 2009, 06:58 PM	#4
Trurolexer Banned Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: USA Watch: 5513MaxiI+PreComex Posts: 18,421	312 all the way!!!

15 November 2009, 07:18 PM	#5
gmtobsessed "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Indonesia Posts: 1,356	I prefer 111, manual wind make it more unique.

15 November 2009, 08:38 PM	#8
CorruptedSanity Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Real Name: Saif Location: Abu Dhabi, UAE Watch: AP Posts: 402	Its eveything a Luminor should be IMO. -Marina -1950s case -brushed & polished case -slightly domed - INHOUSE movement -clean dial -sandwich dial -reasonable

19 November 2009, 08:33 PM	#12
Psmith "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Real Name: Clive Location: Exoplanet Watch: spring-driven Posts: 38,856	The 312 is spanking the 111 in the poll... The inhouse movement seems to be an important factor, the date perhaps a little less so. Funny thing about PAMs is that they turn my watch preferences upside down. Usually I dislike sub-seconds, lack of date, any polish, etc. but these features work so well in many PAM designs. Something I dislike is a PAM on a bracelet - looks all wrong to me... Cheers __________________

19 November 2009, 09:34 PM	#13
fishrising "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Real Name: Ben Location: New England, USA Watch: Sub, Pam164, PO-XL Posts: 383	312 here too...for all reasons mentioned so far...but my number one reason is the date, I can't remember the date for 30 seconds after I read it on my watches... __________________ ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ

20 November 2009, 02:09 AM	#15
ocwatching "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Real Name: Phil Location: CA Posts: 5,372	between the two and if you can spring the additional dough...312... but after appreciating PAMs for a while..I can see the allure of 111 and the historical significance... I am actually looking at a 183 (historical rad) as my next one... have fun! __________________ too much into watches...

20 November 2009, 02:42 AM	#16
omg Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Real Name: Tommy Location: US Posts: 260	I'd go with 111, and save more $ for 210 :) 2 watches = more fun Have you tried both on yet? Which one is smiling at you more?

20 November 2009, 03:37 AM	#17
sandytn Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Real Name: Sandy Location: NJ Posts: 713	111 would be my choice. Love the elegance and simplicity of the dial, without the date. Manual wind also makes it more unique.

20 November 2009, 04:25 AM	#18
stockae92 "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Socal Posts: 4,886	312 ... 1950 case and reasonable price for a in-house Panerai movement

20 November 2009, 04:52 AM	#19
mfer "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Real Name: Mik Location: USA Posts: 13,723	I chose the 111 not just b/c I have it. I just like the historics myself. __________________ member#3242

20 November 2009, 09:13 AM	#21
DWBOD "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Real Name: Douglas Location: Michigan, US Watch: DSSD Posts: 38	I have both I can tell you that on my wrist the 328 (312) is actually more comfortable. The 1950 caseback actually lifts the crown guard off the wrist a bit and makes it very comfortable. I have owned 5 Pam's and the 328 is my favorite. For those who aren't aware, the 328 is the same as the 312 exactly except for the bracelet. I actually removed the bracelet at the AD and have not worn it since. Doug

20 November 2009, 09:16 AM	#22
stockae92 "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Socal Posts: 4,886	312 is thicker than 111? whats the measurement?

20 November 2009, 01:31 PM	#25
stockae92 "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Socal Posts: 4,886	wow, i didn't realize 312 is over 18mm tall i might have to rethink my DSSD vs 312 ...

20 November 2009, 02:06 PM	#26
TswaneNguni "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Real Name: Chris Location: . Watch: Daytonas/Subs/GMTs Posts: 12,608	201A/202A/203A/111/005 etc. .... love the classic Luminor case .... When I think Panerai,I see the classic Luminor case. In the 1950s case...the 47s,are VERY nice.Yummy !! 289 wears comfortable on the wrist.True,the 1950s cased watch do lift the crown guard from the wrist.The 1950s cased watches do have some really sexy lines !! Thats the probem folks .... all Panerai watches are nice !!

20 November 2009, 02:37 PM	#27
Carlo Miguel Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Real Name: Carlo Location: Philippines Watch: Rolex Daytona Posts: 444	312...... definitly my next watch.

20 November 2009, 08:20 PM	#28
dantheman20192 Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Real Name: Dan Location: Gold Coast Posts: 64	312 byyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy that much.... It is an amazing piece

20 November 2009, 11:19 PM	#29
JF23 "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: S Florida Posts: 1,899	If the 312 was available back when I picked up my 111 it would have won out for sure.

21 November 2009, 09:28 AM	#30
vh_bu98 "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Real Name: Vu Location: Dallas area Watch: Platinum YM Posts: 2,646	I like the look of the 111 since I feel that it's more balance. The second hand on the 312 next to the 9 throws things off for me.

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