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willieb83 · 10 April 2017, 10:48 PM

Looking at the modern Rolex Milgauss (2008-2016) am I right in assuming that the Black dial (non GV) was the least popular given it was discontinued in 2013 while the white went on until 2016? Any reasonable guesses as to the production sizes in both dials?

On this basis, the non GV black dial is likely to be the most collectible in years to come....thoughts?

esscaster · 10 April 2017, 11:20 PM

no idea on production numbers, but i would say that that your assumption is accurate in my opinion. The non GV black dial is certainly the variation of the milgauss i see the least on forums at least, but that's not to say non-Rolex enthusiasts out in the real world haven't bought tons of them.

of course, that stating, non-Rolex people wanting a Rolex wouldn't necessarily go for the Milgauss I'm thinking. I think you're onto something...

Old Expat Beast · 10 April 2017, 11:23 PM

The "most" collectible? No. Maybe a bit, in 25 years or so. Still see them languishing in AD windows here.

willieb83 · 10 April 2017, 11:29 PM

sorry most collectible was probably a little dramatic but I meant most collectible of the re-issued Milgauss.

Working on the premise that Rolex produces around 900k-1m watches a year and a majority would be the staples like GMT's, Datejusts and Submariners, one would assume the majority of Milgauss' would be the GV while the non GVs sat in AD shops unsold.

Add into the mix that the black Milgauss was only made for 3 years and I imagine the total number to be very low in the grand scheme of things...

Unless people think I might be totally wrong!!

Abdullah71601 · 10 April 2017, 11:32 PM

There are regional variations. They sold well in the middle east before they were discontinued (GV is currently the #3 seller in Dubai according to AD there).

If you're looking for 1019 or 6541 collectability (value) from these watches, you are likely better off investing the money in lottery tickets.

beshannon · 10 April 2017, 11:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by willieb83

Unless people think I might be totally wrong!!

I have no idea if you are right or wrong.

In the grand scheme of things I think it is not worth the effort to analyze.

How long are you willing to wait for a watch to become desired above the supply?

Old Expat Beast · 10 April 2017, 11:35 PM

Still doubtful, but stranger things have happened. The first GV was selling for 2x retail when it was first released, even more marked up than the SS Ceramic Daytona is now, when people thought it was limited edition.

willieb83 · 10 April 2017, 11:38 PM

I dont think you will see that value. the 1019 and 6541 were only made in the 100s (or so we are led to believe) and are likely to keep climbing in value but you may see a small increase in 20 years time from the non GV Milgauss no?

willieb83 · 10 April 2017, 11:41 PM

Either way, the non GV are still trading at a reasonable price (relative to RRP) now and if you like it (as I do) it may be worth a punt in the hope future generations may reap the benefits.

Abdullah71601 · 10 April 2017, 11:46 PM

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Originally Posted by willieb83

I dont think you will see that value. the 1019 and 6541 were only made in the 100s (or so we are led to believe) and are likely to keep climbing in value but you may see a small increase in 20 years time from the non GV Milgauss no?

Rarity does not correlate directly to collectability or value. Just because there aren't that many 116400 black dials compared to other modern references doesn't mean they will become collectable later.

If you love the watch, buy it because it's a great watch. But, I think speculating on future collectability on this reference is a bad bet. There are better ways to invest your money.

Gratuitous image.

watchwatcher · 11 April 2017, 12:07 AM

^^ Totally agree. And, nice shot!

Bob the brush · 11 April 2017, 12:12 AM

I think the milgauss is great and is on my list. I will get one, but am saving my pennies as I want a SS skydweller, and a sub, and a sea dweller,, and a daydate and a .................?....?........

teo · 11 April 2017, 12:22 AM

Here is mine. The white knight.

Ravager135 · 11 April 2017, 12:22 AM

Unpopular does not equal rare. Hundreds of thousands were made over its lifespan. I think it's a great looking watch like the rest of the Milgauss collection. I don't see it ever being any more hard to come by than any discontinued Rolex. I mean someday even a 16610 will be hard to come by if the timeline is long enough.

teo · 11 April 2017, 12:31 AM

How many white dial sport Rolex are there? Only 3 types. Now one discontinued. Left daytona and explorer 2. Not much choices.

10 April 2017, 10:48 PM	#1
willieb83 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2016 Location: Hertfordshire Posts: 4	Rolex Milgauss Question Looking at the modern Rolex Milgauss (2008-2016) am I right in assuming that the Black dial (non GV) was the least popular given it was discontinued in 2013 while the white went on until 2016? Any reasonable guesses as to the production sizes in both dials? On this basis, the non GV black dial is likely to be the most collectible in years to come....thoughts?

11 April 2017, 12:12 AM	#12
Bob the brush "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2017 Location: Mercia Watch: 1016 Explorer. Posts: 928	I think the milgauss is great and is on my list. I will get one, but am saving my pennies as I want a SS skydweller, and a sub, and a sea dweller,, and a daydate and a .................?....?........ Last edited by Bob the brush; 11 April 2017 at 12:16 AM.. Reason: Predictive text typos

10 April 2017, 11:20 PM	#2
esscaster "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2016 Location: Colorado Posts: 98	no idea on production numbers, but i would say that that your assumption is accurate in my opinion. The non GV black dial is certainly the variation of the milgauss i see the least on forums at least, but that's not to say non-Rolex enthusiasts out in the real world haven't bought tons of them. of course, that stating, non-Rolex people wanting a Rolex wouldn't necessarily go for the Milgauss I'm thinking. I think you're onto something...

10 April 2017, 11:23 PM	#3
Old Expat Beast TRF Moderator & 2024 DATE-JUST41 Patron Join Date: Jul 2013 Real Name: Adam Location: Hong Kong Watch: SEIKO Posts: 28,354	The "most" collectible? No. Maybe a bit, in 25 years or so. Still see them languishing in AD windows here.

10 April 2017, 11:29 PM	#4
willieb83 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2016 Location: Hertfordshire Posts: 4	sorry most collectible was probably a little dramatic but I meant most collectible of the re-issued Milgauss. Working on the premise that Rolex produces around 900k-1m watches a year and a majority would be the staples like GMT's, Datejusts and Submariners, one would assume the majority of Milgauss' would be the GV while the non GVs sat in AD shops unsold. Add into the mix that the black Milgauss was only made for 3 years and I imagine the total number to be very low in the grand scheme of things... Unless people think I might be totally wrong!!

10 April 2017, 11:32 PM	#5
Abdullah71601 Banned Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Calumet Harbor Watch: ing da Bears Posts: 13,568	There are regional variations. They sold well in the middle east before they were discontinued (GV is currently the #3 seller in Dubai according to AD there). If you're looking for 1019 or 6541 collectability (value) from these watches, you are likely better off investing the money in lottery tickets.

10 April 2017, 11:35 PM	#7
Old Expat Beast TRF Moderator & 2024 DATE-JUST41 Patron Join Date: Jul 2013 Real Name: Adam Location: Hong Kong Watch: SEIKO Posts: 28,354	Still doubtful, but stranger things have happened. The first GV was selling for 2x retail when it was first released, even more marked up than the SS Ceramic Daytona is now, when people thought it was limited edition.

10 April 2017, 11:38 PM	#8
willieb83 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2016 Location: Hertfordshire Posts: 4	I dont think you will see that value. the 1019 and 6541 were only made in the 100s (or so we are led to believe) and are likely to keep climbing in value but you may see a small increase in 20 years time from the non GV Milgauss no?

10 April 2017, 11:41 PM	#9
willieb83 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2016 Location: Hertfordshire Posts: 4	Either way, the non GV are still trading at a reasonable price (relative to RRP) now and if you like it (as I do) it may be worth a punt in the hope future generations may reap the benefits.

11 April 2017, 12:07 AM	#11
watchwatcher "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Real Name: Larry Location: Kentucky Watch: Yes Posts: 34,478	^^ Totally agree. And, nice shot!

11 April 2017, 12:22 AM	#14
Ravager135 "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: New Jersey Posts: 4,122	Unpopular does not equal rare. Hundreds of thousands were made over its lifespan. I think it's a great looking watch like the rest of the Milgauss collection. I don't see it ever being any more hard to come by than any discontinued Rolex. I mean someday even a 16610 will be hard to come by if the timeline is long enough.

11 April 2017, 12:31 AM	#15
teo "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: amk Posts: 792	How many white dial sport Rolex are there? Only 3 types. Now one discontinued. Left daytona and explorer 2. Not much choices.

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