5711 in London boutique

[jackal981]

Hello. I will be visiting London and/or Geneve/Zurich within the next month in holiday. Any chances of getting 5711 (or any Nautilus variation) from the boutique store ? Have any of you had experience buying from them ? Thank you

[KarlS]

Originally Posted by jackal981

Hello. I will be visiting London and/or Geneve/Zurich within the next month in holiday. Any chances of getting 5711 (or any Nautilus variation) from the boutique store ? Have any of you had experience buying from them ? Thank you

Considering you have the 5131 I suggest approaching your dealer direct. The standard reply from London is that the waitlist is 6 years. That's on every watch I ask about and doesn't differ on model!!

[jackal981]

Originally Posted by KarlS

Considering you have the 5131 I suggest approaching your dealer direct. The standard reply from London is that the waitlist is 6 years. That's on every watch I ask about and doesn't differ on model!!

Wow ! I don't think people even wait 6 years for food stamp . I saw the pricelist of Switzerland/Europe and it is considerably cheaper than the boutique in my location (even without the VAT refund).

[texasmade]

When I spoke with a Tiffany's PP AD last week he said the SS 5711 is impossible but a Nautilus with complications or PM wouldn't be too hard to get. I imagine this will probably apply to the boutiques also.

[lapince]

Forget the 5711 in Europe, 5712 as well not easy though easier. On these 2 you will have someone waiting for them, not sure for the others, in Paris any SS Nautilus is impossible

[Maltie]

In Belgium any 5711 or 5712 or 5726 is impossible to get, waiting list for a few years as each Patek AD (two in Belgium) only gets about one of each a year

[Sam Philip]

Nautilus models are usually not available in London Salon. Call few AD's out side London and you may be able to find a 5711 or other Nautilus variation.

[kaiserphoenix]

Originally Posted by Sam Philip

Nautilus models are usually not available in London Salon. Call few AD's out side London and you may be able to find a 5711 or other Nautilus variation.

No way. Forget the UK every where u call will be 5 years +. The white 5711 is somewhat easier however. 5712 A is equally impossible to get but still easier than a 5711 blue. The 5990
is also impossible to get but that's more to do with lack of supply more than anything as 1 AD gets about 1 a year.


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[Sam Philip]

Originally Posted by kaiserphoenix

No way. Forget the UK every where u call will be 5 years +. The white 5711 is somewhat easier however. 5712 A is equally impossible to get but still easier than a 5711 blue. The 5990
is also impossible to get but that's more to do with lack of supply more than anything as 1 AD gets about 1 a year.


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I got my 5711 in that way without being on any list!

[kaiserphoenix]

Originally Posted by Sam Philip

I got my 5711 in that way without being on any list!

Me too but after brexit everything changed.


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[MrPear]

I called the Bond Street salon yesterday actually just to enquire about the blue 5711.

I was told 7-8 years.

Hahahahaha

[pp5575]

London has too many buyers. Even 6002G is not taking order for three years. Try other cities or countries.

[Russell996]

Originally Posted by pp5575

London has too many buyers. Even 6002G is not taking order for three years. Try other cities or countries.

Agreed, a lot of overseas buyers coming to the UK.

[pp5575]

Originally Posted by Russell996

Agreed, a lot of overseas buyers coming to the UK.

The price is cheap in London and because of this reason attracts too many overseas buyers. I will go somewhere else if I do not have good relationship with my AD for a long time. I have better chance to get it than others because of long term relationship.

Even price is cheap, but you can't get it . Why waste time to go there and waste your money for travel cost and your precious time.

[pp5575]

I am trying to look for watches somewhere else because it is hard to get what I want and I have over 8 years good relationship with my AD. What do you think as a new buyer or oversea buyer if you compare to me? This is my over 10 year experience.

[RussW]

Originally Posted by Russell996

Agreed, a lot of overseas buyers coming to the UK.

I thought Patek had a policy to prioritise local buyers. Clearly this is not working.

[KarlS]

Originally Posted by RussW

I thought Patek had a policy to prioritise local buyers. Clearly this is not working.

How does that work? You walk into WoS on Brompton Rd and see they have a 5270 on display. You offer to buy as a foreigner..."sorry sir we prioritize U.K. Residents"!!! Can't really see that working!!

[pp5575]

Originally Posted by RussW

I thought Patek had a policy to prioritise local buyers. Clearly this is not working.

I believe Local buyers have priorities. I even heard from my AD and he said MD will not offer special piece to oversea buyers, unless he real has many contribution to UK Patek. Also I heard London salon said they are not real like walk in customers, prefer referral customer or loyal customers.

Why I can not have an enamel piece and London exhibition special piece? I believe It is because I am a oversea buyer even I contribute a lot to my current AD. I will not upset by this, but prefer told me earlier before I bought many years.

I believe London ADs prefer customers ask somethings are hard to sell instead of asking 5711, 5167 and so on. I never ask 5711, 5167 and so on from my London AD.

Another question is what can London AD choose who to sell if local customers are not going to buy watches that are hard to sell. AD should offer some nice watches to oversea buyer if he contribute a lot to local business. Am I right?

[jackal981]

Originally Posted by pp5575

The price is cheap in London and because of this reason attracts too many overseas buyers. I will go somewhere else if I do not have good relationship with my AD for a long time. I have better chance to get it than others because of long term relationship.

Even price is cheap, but you can't get it . Why waste time to go there and waste your money for travel cost and your precious time.

I will be having a month long vacation around Europe. Any suggestion where is the best chance to get any Nautilus ?

[RussW]

Originally Posted by KarlS

How does that work? You walk into WoS on Brompton Rd and see they have a 5270 on display. You offer to buy as a foreigner..."sorry sir we prioritize U.K. Residents"!!! Can't really see that working!!

I was talking more in relation to watches with a waiting list or application pieces. There is clearly no need to prioritise local buyers for watches that are sitting unsold.

I'm pretty sure that it's Patek's policy, how they choose to implement it is up to them.

[greatmattsby]

Originally Posted by MrPear

I called the Bond Street salon yesterday actually just to enquire about the blue 5711.

I was told 7-8 years.

Hahahahaha

“You never actually own a Patek Philippe, you merely look after it for the next generation.”

At this rate, you might as well just tell the next generation to go collect it themselves!

[jackal981]

Originally Posted by greatmattsby

“You never actually own a Patek Philippe, you merely look after it for the next generation.”

At this rate, you might as well just tell the next generation to go collect it themselves!

[pam66]

how about the 5711R? is it hard to get as well? i was offered one recently but have (almost) decided against it. should i reconsider?

[RussW]

Originally Posted by pp5575

I believe Local buyers have priorities. I even heard from my AD and he said MD will not offer special piece to oversea buyers, unless he real has many contribution to UK Patek. Also I heard London salon said they are not real like walk in customers, prefer referral customer or loyal customers.

Why I can not have an enamel piece and London exhibition special piece? I believe It is because I am a oversea buyer even I contribute a lot to my current AD. I will not upset by this, but prefer told me earlier before I bought many years.

I believe London ADs prefer customers ask somethings are hard to sell instead of asking 5711, 5167 and so on. I never ask 5711, 5167 and so on from my London AD.

Another question is what can London AD choose who to sell if local customers are not going to buy watches that are hard to sell. AD should offer some nice watches to oversea buyer if he contribute a lot to local business. Am I right?

I agree with you Brian and I think you've earned the right to get special pieces. If the waiting list is now 6 - 8 years for a 5711 then that seems like a lot of opportunistic buying from overseas buyers and I bet that includes grey dealers looking for a profit. I don't think that's right or how Patek wants the market to operate.

[pp5575]

Originally Posted by RussW

I agree with you Brian and I think you've earned the right to get special pieces. If the waiting list is now 6 - 8 years for a 5711 then that seems like a lot of opportunistic buying from overseas buyers and I bet that includes grey dealers looking for a profit. I don't think that's right or how Patek wants the market to operate.

I never ask for 5167 and 5711. I told Jamie to sell locally. I can get 5167 and 5711 very soon if I do ask from Jamie. I think Jamie likes me is because He knows I am a very good customer. I think everything for him.

[KarlS]

Originally Posted by pp5575

I never ask for 5167 and 5711. I told Jamie to sell locally. I can get 5167 and 5711 very soon if I do ask from Jamie. I think Jamie likes me is because He knows I am a very good customer. I think everything for him.

But you not getting a clock!!

[AK797]

Rolex in the UK is very much locals only for the popular models so PP probably the same on the 5711. Makes sense as these can be sold any time so why not try to build a relationship with a local than with a foreigner they will never see again. The flip side is a Brian, a customer they do see again, so maybe asking Brian to ask Jamie to ask his boss to ask Patek might be the way to go.

[pp5575]

Originally Posted by KarlS

But you not getting a clock!!

I know that is why I am complaint about this by loyalty and contribution. I guess MD does not hear my complaint.

Now you know why I have to go to US to try a chance for me.

[pp5575]

Originally Posted by AK797

Rolex in the UK is very much locals only for the popular models so PP probably the same on the 5711. Makes sense as these can be sold any time so why not try to build a relationship with a local than with a foreigner they will never see again. The flip side is a Brian, a customer they do see again, so maybe asking Brian to ask Jamie to ask his boss to ask Patek might be the way to go.

I did referral local customer to buy from Jamie. I think Tony gets his 5167A is an example although he just mentioned about me with Jamie.

[pp5575]

Originally Posted by AK797

Rolex in the UK is very much locals only for the popular models so PP probably the same on the 5711. Makes sense as these can be sold any time so why not try to build a relationship with a local than with a foreigner they will never see again. The flip side is a Brian, a customer they do see again, so maybe asking Brian to ask Jamie to ask his boss to ask Patek might be the way to go.

My London Rolex AD didn't offer me Daytona after I spent over 200K. Now he never see me again although he did write me an email occasionally.