Rolex home lockbox for safekeeping?

[GGGMT]

I’ve got a small collection with no crazy expensive pieces that are typically kept in a bank safety deposit box. But safe deposit boxes have their own fallibility and they make use and enjoyment cumbersome.

I’d appreciate some guidance on home safekeeping ideas (other than obviously properly insuring them).

Walk safe? Sock drawer? Lockbox? Anyone use these? have a good recommendation? Any have glass covers?



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[BigPapiDoesItAgain]

we use a small "cube" fire safe that is bolted to studs in the wall and floor joists. Could be defeated by a seriously determined thief, but would take some time and doing.

[kieselguhr]

When not in use, I have them on the top shelf inside a safe that is used for other hobbies. The safe is bolted down. At the end of the day, if someone wants it bad enough, no safe in the world is going to stop someone from cracking it open or just taking the whole thing with them.

[Seibei]

Originally Posted by GGGMT

I’ve got a small collection with no crazy expensive pieces that are typically kept in a bank safety deposit box. But safe deposit boxes have their own fallibility and they make use and enjoyment cumbersome.

I’d appreciate some guidance on home safekeeping ideas (other than obviously properly insuring them).

Walk safe? Sock drawer? Lockbox? Anyone use these? have a good recommendation? Any have glass covers?



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Hidden features/storage would be my recommendation. Here are some ideas, good and bad. A thief can not take something he does not know exists.

https://www.pinterest.nz/ConcealedCa...storage-ideas/

Most of them are in my opinion better than obvious fancy safes. If you are clever you can hide an entire room.

[Onikage]

Piece of floor covering, loose floorboard, piece of string with a box on the end lowered into a dark crevice. ...Someone told me that. I thought it was a good idea.

[Case61]

The problem with a safe is that, unless hidden, it announces to any visitors (cleaners, workmen, exterminators, whatever), "Hey, this house has stuff worth stealing!" Plus, pretty much any safe can still be broken into or taken whole (even the bolted in kind) by determined thieves. False bottom drawers and containers are a better way to go, IMO (aside from insurance).

[Big Green]

A beautiful winder (consider Wolf) and insurance for roughly $80-100 per watch, per year. Worry free.

[Finslayer83]

Get one of these https://www.amsecusa.com/product/bf1512/

[Spanky4888]

Hidden gun safe built into house (proving Texas stereotype)...if someone can get it out they have damn sure earned it. It’s all insured anyway.

[Calatrava r]

Originally Posted by Onikage

Piece of floor covering, loose floorboard, piece of string with a box on the end lowered into a dark crevice. ...Someone told me that. I thought it was a good idea.

until the string breaks.

[GGGMT]

Really great thoughts – – thanks all!


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[Calatrava r]

Just put them where thieves won't look. Thieves are usually in any house for a very short time, minutes. They hit the bedroom, master bath and closets. Anything in drawers is history. Anything in hidden below the floors or in the walls with a false front is pretty secure. Just don't forget where you put it. There is a myriad of other places to put stuff in but the downside is the stuff it is in can get thrown away by somebody not realizing a valuable is stashed inside.

If your intruders are there a while which is rare they know all the tricks.

[Spanky4888]

My grandfather used to hide valuables in an Tampon boxes....I guessing thieves are unlikely to look in their.


When he passed we found all sorts of stuff.

[othertbone]

Get a steel safe and bolt it to the floor in a hidden place.

Any safe can be defeated with effort by the average person, unless you spend several thousands (and then will take an experienced person to defeat still).

[Case61]

Originally Posted by Finslayer83

Get one of these https://www.amsecusa.com/product/bf1512/

That safe is rated "UL RSC." When you look at the site's own explanations of the burglary ratings, that means the safe can withstand only 5 minutes of rigorous attacks:

"The door successfully resist entry for a net working time of 5 minutes when attacked against rigorous prying, drilling, punching, chiseling, and tampering attacks by UL technicians."
https://www.amsecusa.com/burglary-ratings-explained/

Hiding stuff still seems to me to be the better way to go.

[Finslayer83]

Originally Posted by Case61

That safe is rated "UL RSC." When you look at the site's own explanations of the burglary ratings, that means the safe can withstand only 5 minutes of rigorous attacks:

"The door successfully resist entry for a net working time of 5 minutes when attacked against rigorous prying, drilling, punching, chiseling, and tampering attacks by UL technicians."
https://www.amsecusa.com/burglary-ratings-explained/

Hiding stuff still seems to me to be the better way to go.

One would assume the alarm system and cameras would keep them there less than a minute or two. If they are hell bent on stealing a specific thing it only takes time/money to steal it.

A smash n grab? That should do the trick.

[ratlover]

Many of the small lock boxes are very easy to break into. Google how to break into the specific one you are looking at. If there is a video showing how to do it in 5 minutes probably should steer clear. Hide it well and bolt it down well. Surprising what size bolts you can break or pull through some plywood with a big crowbar. Smaller lock boxes are pretty cheap. Can always have a “bait” box and hide the other really well. Around my area if someone has a moderate sized safe people just assume they are being responsible by keeping kids away from a few hunting tools not that its packed with gold an jewels. A moderately sized safe is still 500+ pounds and then bolted to the floor it will slow someone down and probably make it more of a hassle than they are willing to go through. Put it in walk in closet or outa sight so the tv repair man or someone peeping in your window doesn’t see. Also stay away from electronic locks in my opinion

[Seibei]

You could also keep valuables at work, if that is safe.

[mmaggi]

Safes are an option. But I always put them in places where thieves would never look. Never hide them in bedrooms or closets.

[Brich436]

Security is not a one thing or one place type thing.

Most thieves will strike when you aren't home.

You need to have layers of it:

1) Cameras
2) Alarm Systems
3) Vault / Safe bolted down
4) Confidentiality / don't tell people you have this stuff or post on social media
5) Fortifications / reinforced doors / windows
6) Dogs (a good barker works great)
7) Insurance for valuables

In the end if someone is determined they can penetrate all layers BUT your job is to make it harder for them. Most AD's have armed security and fortifications for these reasons and they still are robbed! One by me was a victim of $500,000 theft when a crew of 4 men used sledge hammers to smash the display cases. After that they hired armed security.

[russ86]

Keep most expensive in safe deposit box and get insurance

[Wes911]

What is your primary concern?

Honestly I dont think either are likely but I would put a fire as a higher threat than a home invasion by thieves. I like the safe for some amount of fire protection more than theft protection. Ultimately it is all insured anyways.

[AlexMachine]

I have safe for other hobbies. So in there or in a antique cabinet which has total of 8 hidden compartments. 4 of those are almost impossible to find. You have to find other first, open them before you gain access to those last ones. Took me days to figure them all.

[M45]

I have a Fat Boy gun safe bolted to the floor, the watches live inside that.

[EthanMY]

Hidden or not, thief nowadays come with gold/metal detector, no joke.
Bank safe or in-house bolted safe with insurance still the better choice.

[007timer]

Originally Posted by Seibei

You could also keep valuables at work, if that is safe.

Unless you work at a bank with safety deposit boxes....Then the answer is no.


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[GGGMT]

I’m thinking safe deposit boxes is the move.


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[214270Explorer]

Go to the Liberty Safe website and check out their eye-opening videos.

We went with two of the huge Liberty Lincoln LX50's.

Massive. Bolted. Intimidating. Burglars often won't even leave a fingerprint on large safes such as these. Fire-secure (TRUE fire ratings, not meaningless specs as with imported junk.)

[M45]

Originally Posted by GGGMT

I’m thinking safe deposit boxes is the move.


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Banks are in no way obligated to keep the contents of your safe deposit box safe, nor are they liable for anything that may happen to it.

[Onikage]

Originally Posted by Calatrava r

until the string breaks.

Ouch. Did you try it?