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Old 12 December 2018, 11:27 PM   #1
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BLNR winding resistance and grinding/scraping noise

While putting my daughter to bed last night, I took off my 6 month old BLNR and went to wind it a bit. I do this sometimes on my watches, just give it a few winds to make sure everything is working okay.

However, when I went to wind it there was a lot of resistance and a grinding or scraping noise which is something I've never heard before (this is my 2nd Rolex, have had a ExII for 3 years).

The only thing I can think is that the watch may be fully wound after wearing it all day. I waited over night and it is still doing it in the morning after about 8 hours.

Is this normal for a fully wound watch? The plan is to let it run down completely and try to wind again to see if it feels normal again before taking in to the AD/RSC. The watch has been working fine and been keeping great time.
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Old 12 December 2018, 11:29 PM   #2
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No not normal, needs to go back for RSC warranty service. I had the same thing happen to my Sub C a couple of years ago after I purchased it. RSC fixed it quickly, new seals and gaskets and good to go.
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Old 12 December 2018, 11:39 PM   #3
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Not normal. That said, while you have a clutch in there to prevent overwinding, I would stop that routine you have going. No need to do it and as long as you are wearing it, the power reserve to stay about full.


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Old 12 December 2018, 11:50 PM   #4
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No not normal, needs to go back for RSC warranty service. I had the same thing happen to my Sub C a couple of years ago after I purchased it. RSC fixed it quickly, new seals and gaskets and good to go.
Thanks - how long was it at RSC for? I guess this gives me a reason to wear the ExII again...
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Old 12 December 2018, 11:54 PM   #5
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Sorry OP for this happening to you Rolex.
Reading posts like this is scary. I don't expect this happening with Rolex. Especially 6 month old watch.
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Old 12 December 2018, 11:58 PM   #6
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No not normal, needs to go back for RSC warranty service. I had the same thing happen to my Sub C a couple of years ago after I purchased it. RSC fixed it quickly, new seals and gaskets and good to go.
My Polar did that too. RSC fixed it in about 6 weeks.
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Old 13 December 2018, 12:16 AM   #7
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Thanks - how long was it at RSC for? I guess this gives me a reason to wear the ExII again...
It was just under 4 weeks which I was pleased with. It was RSC Toronto.
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Old 13 December 2018, 12:20 AM   #8
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Sorry OP for this happening to you Rolex.
Reading posts like this is scary. I don't expect this happening with Rolex. Especially 6 month old watch.
Not sure it's scary - the watch is under warranty and I'm sure Rolex will fix with no issue.

Nothing is 100% perfect and things will inevitably break.
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Old 13 December 2018, 12:35 AM   #9
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Not sure it's scary - the watch is under warranty and I'm sure Rolex will fix with no issue.

Nothing is 100% perfect and things will inevitably break.
I disagree with you on this. Rolex is not an ordinary product. They claim perfection about Rolex watches. There're too many posts about something is braking. But, I like your attitude. I'll be going crazy over $9K and 6 month old broken watch. Hope RSC will sort this out for you correctly.
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Old 13 December 2018, 12:48 AM   #10
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I disagree with you on this. Rolex is not an ordinary product. They clam perfection about Rolex watches. There're too many posts about something is braking. But, I like your attitude. I'll be going crazy over $9K and 6 month old broken watch. Hope RSC will sort this out for you correctly.
You can disagree all you want but Rolex is a mass produced watch. It does not happen often relatively speaking but does happen and is unfortunate. Rolex does stand by there product and under warranty will make it right.
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Seems the US has to rebuild a lot of these Swiss made watches.....?
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Old 13 December 2018, 01:11 AM   #12
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You can disagree all you want but Rolex is a mass produced watch. It does not happen often relatively speaking but does happen and is unfortunate. Rolex does stand by there product and under warranty will make it right.
Well, cases like this ruing Rolex reputation IMO. And we as Rolex owners need to address these issues, otherwise it will continue and even accelerate.
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Old 13 December 2018, 02:45 AM   #13
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Nothing is 100% perfect and things will inevitably break.
Does “inevitably “ mean after 6 months?

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I disagree with you on this. Rolex is not an ordinary product. They claim perfection about Rolex watches. There're too many posts about something is braking. But, I like your attitude. I'll be going crazy over $9K and 6 month old broken watch. Hope RSC will sort this out for you correctly.
I’m with you in this one. I can buy a $14.99 watch that’ll last longer than 6 months. I have a reasonable expectation that a $9k watch be dependable.
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Old 13 December 2018, 02:48 AM   #14
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Does “inevitably “ mean after 6 months?
Obviously not; it means the watch will fail (i.e. require servicing) at some point in it's life. Most products have a bathtub curve - you'll have higher instances of failure at the beginning (could be manufacturing issue) and also near the end of life (wear out), with a lower failure occurrences during most of the life of the product.

All failures lie on this curve at some point, hence "inevitably".
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Old 13 December 2018, 02:54 AM   #15
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Seems the US has to rebuild a lot of these Swiss made watches.....?
Well that’s a xenophobic comment if ever I heard one...USA supremacy eh??
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Old 13 December 2018, 02:56 AM   #16
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Well that’s a xenophobic comment if ever I heard one...USA supremacy eh??
Nothing wrong with a little pride for my country....is there?

There has been a rash of comments lately on quality concerns and reliability issues. That’s unbecoming for a company that prides itself on “perfection”.
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Nothing wrong with a little pride for my country....is there?

There has been a rash of comments lately on quality concerns and reliability issues. That’s unbecoming for a company that prides itself on “perfection”.
I think the Rolex employed Swiss watchmakers know exactly what they are doing...more so than the USA watchmakers.
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I think the Rolex employed Swiss watchmakers know exactly what they are doing...more so than the USA watchmakers.
That’s all fine and dandy but when your 6 month old watch needs to be rebuilt....something is wrong.
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That’s all fine and dandy but when your 6 month old watch needs to be rebuilt....something is wrong.
Let’s discuss the reliability of USA cars as opposed to German made cars shall we?
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Obviously not; it means the watch will fail (i.e. require servicing) at some point in it's life. Most products have a bathtub curve - you'll have higher instances of failure at the beginning (could be manufacturing issue) and also near the end of life (wear out), with a lower failure occurrences during most of the life of the product.

All failures lie on this curve at some point, hence "inevitably".
OP Please keep us updated on the repair progress of your watch. Would be very valuable for TRF to know what was broken if any. Good luck with your BLNR
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Old 13 December 2018, 03:19 AM   #21
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OP Please keep us updated on the repair progress of your watch. Would be very valuable for TRF to know what was broken if any. Good luck with your BLNR
I will - search history shows some threads with similar questions but most people don't seem to update. I'm hoping this just means the watches are fully wound, and once they run low will wind smoothly once again!
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Nothing wrong with a little pride for my country....is there?

There has been a rash of comments lately on quality concerns and reliability issues. That’s unbecoming for a company that prides itself on “perfection”.
Just curious about the "rash of threads" you have seen. I haven't really noticed anything out of the norm over my 4 years here daily? I may have missed them?
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Let’s discuss the reliability of USA cars as opposed to German made cars shall we?
No need to there. I drive 100% Japanese (made in Japan with 100% Japanese components) cars. More reliable than both German and USA produced vehicles.
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Well that’s a xenophobic comment if ever I heard one...USA supremacy eh??
Let’s leave this alone.
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No need to there. I drive 100% Japanese (made in Japan with 100% Japanese components) cars. More reliable than both German and USA produced vehicles.
Well try Japanese Grand Seiko if you feel Swiss Rolex are Sub-standard
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Certainly Peter....the above post was a light hearted joke
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Certainly Peter....the above post was a light hearted joke
As was my rebuilt in America comment. Cheers brother.
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As was my rebuilt in America comment. Cheers brother.
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Not normal. That said, while you have a clutch in there to prevent overwinding, I would stop that routine you have going. No need to do it and as long as you are wearing it, the power reserve to stay about full.


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