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Old 8 May 2018, 09:18 AM   #31
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Fake for sure


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For VERY sure!
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Old 8 May 2018, 01:47 PM   #32
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The L under the crown on the dial doesn't look right. It has a very high pointy L.
The "L", Nice Catch!
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Old 8 May 2018, 02:10 PM   #33
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The "L", Nice Catch!
Thanks, I"m learning :)
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Old 8 May 2018, 02:54 PM   #34
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Thats correct, leads me to believe this is legit
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Old 8 May 2018, 11:46 PM   #35
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Definitely fake, and OP’s response makes me skeptical that he might possibly know the maker
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Old 9 May 2018, 01:29 AM   #36
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Maybe OP is the maker and getting feedback from us to perfect the replica?
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Old 9 May 2018, 01:43 AM   #37
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Maybe OP is the maker and getting feedback from us to perfect the replica?
Lol exactly what I just said
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Old 9 May 2018, 01:47 AM   #38
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Old 10 May 2018, 03:17 AM   #39
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Maybe OP is the maker and getting feedback from us to perfect the replica?
While it may be an honourable sentiment...

I really don’t understand this sentiment on forums about fakes, the idea the fakers post up pics to see if a few self appointed (and I mean that in the nicest way) experts can tell if it’s a fake is ludicrous.

Sorry but it just makes me laugh when I see people saying things like...

“We don’t disclose what makes it fake as we don’t want to help the fakers”

“The faker is posting to see if he can get it past experts”


Do people seriously think the fakers need our help to know what’s wrong? They make the darn things and no doubt have a real one to hand. The reason they can’t get things right is because they don’t use the same materials, tooling and craftsmen, not because “Dave on TRF neglected to point out the issues”

I think the only things these comments would serve for is a laugh to the fakers sat there wearing their real Rolex.
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Old 10 May 2018, 03:20 AM   #40
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While it may be an honourable sentiment...

I really don’t understand this sentiment on forums about fakes, the idea the fakers post up pics to see if a few self appointed (and I mean that in the nicest way) experts can tell if it’s a fake is ludicrous.

Sorry but it just makes me laugh when I see people saying things like...

“We don’t disclose what makes it fake as we don’t want to help the fakers”

“The faker is posting to see if he can get it past experts”


Do people seriously think the fakers need our help to know what’s wrong? They make the darn things and no doubt have a real one to hand. The reason they can’t get things right is because they don’t use the same materials, tooling and craftsmen, not because “Dave on TRF neglected to point out the issues”

I think the only things these comments would serve for is a laugh to the fakers sat there wearing their real Rolex.
Yes they do!
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Forgetting the counterfeit manufacturers
Scammers attempting to sell on eBay check out on the likes of here - dudes that disclose everything allow these people to then post and atempt to mask those pointed out issues

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Old 10 May 2018, 03:29 AM   #41
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Yes, they seeking the balance between low production expensenses and visible attributes of fake, and forums- their focus-group for free
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Old 11 May 2018, 11:50 AM   #42
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New member here in the market for my first Rolex. Browsing various threads, I'm learning a lot! Especially on this one which is one of the models I've been eyeing. Thanks everyone for the info and what to watch out for!
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Old 11 May 2018, 03:05 PM   #43
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Thanks again everyone I will make sure to tell the child laborers I have from China how to do it right next time smh oh wait please provide me with more feedback....geez I am a first time user of this site and all the negative comments and accusations really turned me off to this site again thank you for your help experts
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Old 11 May 2018, 11:14 PM   #44
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Thanks again everyone I will make sure to tell the child laborers I have from China how to do it right next time smh oh wait please provide me with more feedback....geez I am a first time user of this site and all the negative comments and accusations really turned me off to this site again thank you for your help experts
You’re welcome. Advice though ...your fake would probably look better if you weren’t using child labor ...
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Old 12 May 2018, 12:03 AM   #45
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Hi all dunno how I can tell if the GMT II I just bought is real or fake. Does anyone have tips on how I can tell? The bezel and the hour hand movement seems to be on ok because I can move hours and date only in the second position of the watch winder. The concern I have is the date does not change when I wind the watch backwards. It's my very first one

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Thanks again everyone I will make sure to tell the child laborers I have from China how to do it right next time smh oh wait please provide me with more feedback....geez I am a first time user of this site and all the negative comments and accusations really turned me off to this site again thank you for your help experts
Best of luck finding a real watch
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Old 12 May 2018, 01:13 AM   #46
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While it may be an honourable sentiment...

I really don’t understand this sentiment on forums about fakes, the idea the fakers post up pics to see if a few self appointed (and I mean that in the nicest way) experts can tell if it’s a fake is ludicrous.

Sorry but it just makes me laugh when I see people saying things like...

“We don’t disclose what makes it fake as we don’t want to help the fakers”

“The faker is posting to see if he can get it past experts”


Do people seriously think the fakers need our help to know what’s wrong? They make the darn things and no doubt have a real one to hand. The reason they can’t get things right is because they don’t use the same materials, tooling and craftsmen, not because “Dave on TRF neglected to point out the issues”

I think the only things these comments would serve for is a laugh to the fakers sat there wearing their real Rolex.
I used to have the same questions as you, but with a little research, I realized that counterfeiting, besides being done by factories, is also done by individuals who get parts from suppliers and put the watches together themselves.

As with everything, there are varying grades of parts and so freelancers mix and match trying to get the best combination of parts to make a better "replica."

I don't think that all those who do this have actual watches to compare to and have to rely on pictures and the opinions of others to get feedback.

There are whole forums out there that discuss all these issues and where people brag about the quality of their "replicas."

As for the OP, who knows what his motivation is, but the fact is he has a fake and all the phony background stories and fuzzy pictures won't change that.
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Old 12 May 2018, 01:37 AM   #47
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Thanks again everyone I will make sure to tell the child laborers I have from China how to do it right next time smh oh wait please provide me with more feedback....geez I am a first time user of this site and all the negative comments and accusations really turned me off to this site again thank you for your help experts
Really? Well you're credibility went out the window when you basically ignored every logical question posed to you by various members here. Where did you buy it? Did you get box and accessories with it? How much did you pay for it?
Chirp...chirp...chirp...nothing but crickets. We tried to help, that is all I have to say.
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Old 13 May 2018, 11:41 AM   #48
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New member here in the market for my first Rolex. Browsing various threads, I'm learning a lot! Especially on this one which is one of the models I've been eyeing. Thanks everyone for the info and what to watch out for!
When you are ready to make a purchase, don't forget to Check Out The "Trusted Sellers" Right Here on TRF.
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Old 21 May 2018, 01:01 AM   #49
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Really? Well you're credibility went out the window when you basically ignored every logical question posed to you by various members here. Where did you buy it? Did you get box and accessories with it? How much did you pay for it?
Chirp...chirp...chirp...nothing but crickets. We tried to help, that is all I have to say.
Agreed....What he said.
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Old 21 May 2018, 01:23 AM   #50
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When you are ready to make a purchase, don't forget to Check Out The "Trusted Sellers" Right Here on TRF.
+1

And I would add, save yourself the risk and likely grief by limiting your search to ADs and trusted sellers here on trf. These watches are expensive. Why take a risk when the trusted sellers are so thoroughly vetted here.
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Old 21 May 2018, 09:44 AM   #51
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The L under the crown on the dial doesn't look right. It has a very high pointy L.
Is the rehaut crown logo not alignign with the 12 REALLY a sign of a fake? Every BLNR I've seen has it off for a fraction in ADs and on my own.
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Old 21 May 2018, 11:14 AM   #52
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Is the rehaut crown logo not alignign with the 12 REALLY a sign of a fake? Every BLNR I've seen has it off for a fraction in ADs and on my own.
"EVERY" How many is "EVERY"?

No it does not guarantee its fake, but it raises the suspicion to look further?

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Old 21 May 2018, 11:35 AM   #53
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Laser etched crown at "6" looks bad to me.
How much you paid for it? The lack of basic info like price and box/papers is pretty fishy to me.
It looks like you bought a ~$300-500 fake and you're trying to check if it looks good for people in the business
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Old 21 May 2018, 11:44 AM   #54
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Laser etched crown at "6" looks bad to me.
How much you paid for it? The lack of basic info like price and box/papers is pretty fishy to me.
It looks like you bought a ~$300-500 fake and you're trying to check if it looks good for people in the business
That and about 5 other things - its already confirmed fake a long time ago.
No need to go into details!
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Old 21 May 2018, 11:49 AM   #55
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That and about 5 other things - its already confirmed fake a long time ago.
No need to go into details!
I didn't notice the date before replying
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Old 22 May 2018, 06:58 PM   #56
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"EVERY" How many is "EVERY"?

No it does not guarantee its fake, but it raises the suspicion to look further?

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You're right - not correct to use EVERY

However, my BLNR has it - the three that I've viewed in Rolex boutiques have it as well, seems to be almost the norm for BLNR
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